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#188739 - 03/02/03 02:22 AM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Nailknot Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 85
Loc: Seattle
>>I'll have to disagree. Most all of the famous old timers killed and ate a few steelhead, but those old time bonkers did more to conserve our fishing resources than all the hot air and misdirected efforts of today's neo-sportsmen. Hypocrites they were not.>>

Yeah those old timers really set us up with the goods.

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#188740 - 03/02/03 11:06 AM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
BW Offline
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Registered: 04/04/00
Posts: 749
Loc: LAKEWOOD,WA,USA
Not sure what you would call recent. But I was praticing catch and release (mostly trout on high lakes it the 70's). Back then that is what I fished the most.
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#188741 - 03/02/03 01:55 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
stlhdfishn Offline
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Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 293
Loc: kitsap peninsula
(Yeah those old timers really set us up with the goods)
maybe just maybe those old timers didnt know what we know today or things might be different nowadays. i'am just thankful that my father and other old timers took the time to teach me what they did know.c&r is a piece of the puzzle but theres a lot more pieces everyone needs to work on if we want things to be the way they once were wink

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#188742 - 03/02/03 05:17 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Tabfry Offline
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Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 88
Loc: Monroe
No hypwcrite here. If legal to do so, I'll take a wild home to feed my family. However, if our law-makers determine that it is unsafe for our local fishery to do so...I'm all for it. I would agree that all wilds fish all the time be released. But like I said, as long as it's legal and my family likes to eat fish, I'll take'em.

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#188743 - 03/02/03 05:26 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Dave D Offline
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
Tabfry

So if you agree they should be released why not do it on your own with out the law?
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#188744 - 03/02/03 05:52 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Tabfry Offline
Smolt

Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 88
Loc: Monroe
Lead thrower,

They know better than I do. I the fishery can afford it, I'll tak'em. If not , fine. I've got no prob with closing it all together.

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#188745 - 03/02/03 06:46 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
bank walker Offline
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Registered: 12/26/99
Posts: 745
Plunker, Yeah the old timers bonked alot of fish, because there was alot of fish to bonk. BUT if we want to get back to strong wild runs EVERYONE must do their part and release the Nates. DUH! I cant believe there is even a discussion on whether to release or not...Hatcheries provide the fish for harvest....

Common Sense.... umbrella
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#188746 - 03/02/03 07:35 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1828
Loc: Toledo, Washington
"Some hypocracy on this website" laugh laugh

Right, if this was a mirror, many of you would be standing knee deep in your own own broken glass! beer beer

I respect the people who believe in what they believe! The one's that I don't respect are the weasels who sometime want to play with this board and its members for their own personal gains!

You turkeys know who you are, so there is no reason to mention names!

Cowlitzfisherman

p.s. pretty simple words for me again. . . right...Jerry?
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#188747 - 03/02/03 07:37 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
stlhdfishn Offline
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Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 293
Loc: kitsap peninsula
MICROPTERUS101 maybe you misunderstood what i was saying or you didnt read the posts before mine or maybe i dont know what your saying i do know the boldt decision s**ks i also know its not the only problem we're up against today i dont have time or id write a list have a good day laugh

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#188748 - 03/02/03 08:58 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
centerpin Offline
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Registered: 11/24/00
Posts: 377
Loc: The Terrace
Have'nt bonked a nate steehead in 13 years
It's a personal choise,I think that people that kill Nates in this day and age should take a hard look at why they feel the need to kill such a prize. <img border="0" alt="[eat]" title="" src="graemlins/eat.gif" />
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#188749 - 03/02/03 10:30 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
trailrat77 Offline
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Registered: 11/23/01
Posts: 350
Loc: rowers seat
Well said Centerpin...

Release all wild Steelhead...

Like the lawmakers have a clue beathead
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#188750 - 03/02/03 10:46 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
FASTWATER Offline
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Registered: 01/16/01
Posts: 611
Loc: Place's you only dream about
I was just browsing and wanted to commend Bob on a point! After spending most of the last month on the O.P. fishing and after alot of facts coming my way there are only two guides out there that absolutely catch and release religiously Bob and a fly guide named J.D. Love if their are others I'm sorry could not find one. Yes I'm not going to lie I have killed three this year(natives) and it is always a decision made with no regrets just my decision! But I do get a kick out of the hypocrites I have seen and know when under the gun kill wild fish after preaching to me about not doing it , great topic

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#188751 - 03/02/03 11:39 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Plunker Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/01/00
Posts: 511
Loc: Skagit Valley
Well said centerpin. I wonder though...
Why do you call them a prize? They're just another fish, are'nt they?

Bank walker - I kind of suspected you would say that. It's ok though.

That is if you promise to be kind to my precious perch. babble
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#188752 - 03/03/03 12:16 AM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
centerpin Offline
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Registered: 11/24/00
Posts: 377
Loc: The Terrace
Plunk : fresh nates on the move arn't just another fish.Plunk picture this ,Its a warm March day,Your drift fishing small water with a good friend. by the end of the day you have released 12 nates between you,all the way from jacks to two fish over three feet long.
Thats why I call them a prize
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#188753 - 03/03/03 03:35 AM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
micropterus101 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 802
Loc: Port Orchard
Quote:
Originally posted by stlhdfishn:
MICROPTERUS101 maybe you misunderstood what i was saying or you didnt read the posts before mine or maybe i dont know what your saying i do know the boldt decision s**ks i also know its not the only problem we're up against today i dont have time or id write a list have a good day laugh
Maybe I did misunderstand you. I just didnt want this thread to another sportfishermen blaming sportfishermen thread. I just wrote it up real quick cause I had to get to work.

beer



Yep there are hypocrites out there and story tellers. They're only hurting themselves and look like fools in the end. with as many people as there is on these boards they would have to be pretty damn good liars to not get caught!

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#188754 - 03/03/03 08:45 AM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
CFM what help
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#188755 - 03/03/03 01:07 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
Osprey Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/09/00
Posts: 915
Loc: Osprey Acres /Olympja
The original subject of this post has been lost confused

I have bonked my share of Nates in the past ....none sine 91.

Times have changed and so should this narrow minded idea ..........wild fish numbers are NOT increaseing and by continuing to impact this fishery .........We are only stealing from our children.

others have choosen to use this as a media for there their little "web games"..stir the Shiit kind of thing,He only wants a reaction beathead
by responding to his meat mentallity you are all playing into his hand,which is not so busy now .......since his Card ran out flog

makeing a turd out of a Wild fish is wrong
Plunk...if you can really taste the differnce between wild and hatchery,I've got a real Wild trout you can taste..........Os
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#188756 - 03/03/03 01:48 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
h2o Offline
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
For the record:

I was on the Hoh this weekend and released both steelhead I caught.

I practice C & R release on nates now...but never really knew the difference as an ignorant beginner, killing my first one and eating it. As much as I disagree with his ethical stance I have to agree with plunker in his basic assertion, wild fish do taste better, dammit!
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#188757 - 03/04/03 05:02 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
GutZ Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
I have heard that eating fish will make you smarter. After reading this thread I am pretty certain that is not the case.
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#188758 - 03/04/03 05:31 PM Re: Some hypocracy on this website
hawk Offline
Spawner

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 562
Loc: austin, Minnesota, USA
Hey Gutz. LOL laugh

I also heard a report on a.m. radio today regarding a study that was conducted in Eastern and Central Europe. The results were that children who grew up eating a steady diet of fish and fruit, were less likely to develop astma.

I say B.S. It gets plenty fruity around here regarding fsih, and there are times when I would rather choke.

I've been around the world twice, been in love, broke rods, smoked brats, cursed at drones, puked, cried, had near death experiences, damn near drowned, come from a divorced family, lost my hair/gained too much weight at an early age, had close friends die way too young, I've seen two billy goats screw, seen 4 of my own children born before my very own eyes, I've ph**ked, farted, and fought. But I ain't never seen the stuff, like the stuff that goes on around here. beathead beathead evil
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