#194242 - 04/13/03 09:44 PM
Is Syria Next?
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Reverend Tarpones
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Sounds like Bush is ready to conquer, er liberate another country. Why not, were in the neighborhood. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...40&ncid=716
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#194244 - 04/13/03 11:10 PM
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Registered: 01/26/02
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Yeah lets let some more American GIs die liberating another country that does,nt want anything to do with our way of life.
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#194246 - 04/13/03 11:35 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 11/26/01
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we might as well clean up Syria and Iran while we are already in the neighborhood. we have all our gear locked and loaded right next door. that way we wont have to go back in another 12 years.
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#194247 - 04/14/03 01:12 AM
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Seems to me that the way those Iragi's were tearing down statues and riding on the head of Saddam all around town that they were preety dam glad we were there, dam, I went this long without posting about a NFR issue and I get sucked in. NEN
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#194248 - 04/14/03 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Metalhead Mojo: we might as well clean up Syria and Iran while we are already in the neighborhood. we have all our gear locked and loaded right next door. that way we wont have to go back in another 12 years. That's a silly argument....What about Lebannon, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Nigeria, Sudan......And Al-Qaeda is suspected of having training grounds in Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Kenya and Ethiopia.....And there are East Asian countries, specifically Indonesia which also may have terrorist links. Where do we stop? A victorous little war, much like the Spanish-American war is one thing... but how far do we take it before....hopefully before we've made enemies with the whole world.
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#194249 - 04/14/03 01:19 AM
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Syria has always been a problem in the whole Israel issue. They back Palestine but do not allow the Palestine's to move into their country. This does not allow the palatines anywhere to go so they keep pushing on Israel, all of which just keeps the terror process going. But now that the pres. and company have had the fore thought and wisdom to show the Arab people (not to be confused with the Arab leaders) that they can have freedom from murder and oppressive governments, those same governments are getting a little nervous about now and are going to be more willing to play ball and give us the cooperation we want in the Israeli Palestine peace issues. The Arab league has already been on TV. telling the world that the people of Iraqi did not want saddam gone. Looks like they are really missing the a-hole to me. If none of you have notice north Korea is pissing them selves trying to get to the table with us on the nuclear issue. This is the complete oppocent of what the peace crowd said would happen. They said that if we went against Iraqi then Korea would play hardball. Well Korea and Syria and Iran all see that we are not to be messed with. Sounds easy and it is. Peace thru force, it worked against the Russians and it will work against these others. The peace activists have always been wrong on this and they continue to be wrong on how to project the will of the U.S. I little side note , the average age in Iran is 28 yrs old. Read the National Geographic story from this last year about the youth of Iran and how they can't wait to brake free from the religious control of the ayatollahs and copy they free enterprise style of the U.S.A. Tom
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#194250 - 04/14/03 01:41 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 11/26/01
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Originally posted by CWUgirl: A victorous little war, much like the Spanish-American war is one thing... but how far do we take it before....hopefully before we've made enemies with the whole world. um, yeah, we wouldnt want to go off and offend someone, we might upset some crazed dictator...it seems to me that all these arab countries already hate the USA and will hate us no matter what we do, whether or not we hurt their feelings. when do we stop? when Al-Qaeda has been completely exterminated, thats when.
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#194251 - 04/14/03 01:45 AM
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Carcass
Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
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posted 04-11-2003 04:32 PM http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013101
...seemed more relevant in this conversation because not even two days later we are seeing the anti-Syria rhetoric heat up in the press...
"As usual I have an alternate, somewhat conspiratorial view of where this new american foreign policy is heading...
The core issue between Arabs and the west is western imperialism. Since the Brits left Iraq the last bastion of western imperialism, at least in the Arab view, is Israel. Hard to blame them really...I imagine the same kind of feelings might be generated here if say the Kurds were awarded part of Colorado as some sort of reparations for the atrocities committed at the hands of Saddam. A bad comparison admittedly, but one worth making because it helps explains the Arab view.
Oil is the big Red Herring. Believe me, I think the Bush administration is comfortable with the general population thinking this about oil...or anything else that isn't the truth. Technically they would not be lying that way....
...because the truth is that ultimately this a battle for Arab or western control of Jerusalem and the other Muslim/Christian holy lands. We are now reinforcing our position in the region militarily, if you put yourself in the shoes of an Arab you can see how this creates legitimate fear of further invasions by westerners. So then, can we legitimately expect that Iran or Syria, especially Syria, are next?? Haven't you already heard the rumblings?? Syria are a state that supports Hezbollah (Palestinian terrorists)...intimations that Iraq's WMD were smuggled into Syria during our conflict with Iraq...its all there, remember though that before the conflict with Iraq you would not hear these type of things from the US government.
I'm no nostradamus but I predict that in the very, very near future such rhetoric against the Syrian government is going to heat up big time. IMO, this ultimately good for US 'interest' in the region but bad for our national security."
Now...here's a list of reasons to invade and conquer Syria next...
1. 'Intelligence reports suggest' they have Iraq's WMD...
2. They support terrorist organizations...
3. 'Agents of the Syrian government' (aka, Syrian mercenaries) killed during 'Iraqi Freedom'...
Sound familiar?
Which UN resolution will the United Sates be waving over its head when it invades Syria? Oh...that's right...the rest of the world doesn't need to approve such actions.
Does any one seriously wonder why the Arabs harbor ill will against the West?
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#194252 - 04/14/03 01:52 AM
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Registered: 11/19/02
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It isn't about crazed dictators.... We are losing touch with reality in that we cannot act as an independent police force...We live in an interdependent world. If we loose the support of Western Europe, China (2nd largest economy).... who exactly are we going to trade with?
Right now we're spending money on this war like its going out of style. We cannot financially go on country to country without a real coalition (the UN) without going broke.
Ohh an Al-Qaeda's irradication is your goal?? Well geez, we should have just invaded Saudi Araba in the first place- that's where the funding came from afterall!!! And lets not forget that's were most 9/11 terrorists were from as well......
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#194254 - 04/14/03 03:16 AM
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Registered: 02/28/02
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Heck... I just wanna retire... Three too many conflicts for me already! I darn sure don't get paid enough as it is... Personally, we better watch North Korea and China. It is getting uglier by the minute! Downriggin'
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#194255 - 04/14/03 02:07 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/16/02
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Loc: seattle wa
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instead of WMD.... maybe we should refer to these weapons as the "hot potato"
I bet syria will be a targert next if not colombia. colombia will be a conversation regarding "narco-terrorists". I can tell ya now ahead of time ... start reading up on these two countries if you want to stay one step ahead of the propaganda machine. Syria does not have as much to offer us or scare us with other than the "hot potato" arguement. but Colombia is both a major oil exporter and a major cocaine exporter and cocaine is how "black ops" are paid for (other than olie north's traitorouse ass). that is not crazy conspiratorial spew. I speak fluent spanish and worked for the jalisco mob(in puerto vallarta) for about a year when I was 21. I only rented sail boats for them but I can tell you absolutely true stories about the CIA and DEA coming to make "pickups" and how we would be warned ahead of time and how we would watch millions of dollars of cocaine unloaded from 55 foot luxury sailboats in the middle of the day and carried down the dock in duffle bags with radio receivers. those were eye opening times for a 21 year old .
now here comes the conspiraacy part cuz i have no first hand knowledge here but many CIA officers say that jeb and george and bill clinton(when gov of arkansas) were all part of the same ring that imported coke in "organ transplant " carriers in to meany airfield in arkansas. the factual side I do know of ,is that all three have dozens of photos of them taken with their arms around well known top drug kingpins. and of course the clinton late night pardons speak volumes
i would say syria then colombia.
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#194256 - 04/14/03 07:57 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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chappy, Didn't they tell you not to speak of such things?
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#194257 - 04/14/03 08:03 PM
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Carcass
Registered: 10/31/02
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Loc: Portland
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DanS, speaking from experience again. Now he has to kill us....
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#194259 - 04/14/03 11:58 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/01/03
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Chappy, your posts are getting more amusing by the day. Thanks for the good laughs, seriously.
I think Syria is definately next, not only are Iraq's WMD stashed there, so are many high ranking Baath Party members, and of course, terrorists! Then Libya because it's located in between Syria and Iran, and there is certain to be terrorists in that country. Then Iran because Iranians are actually in favor of a democratic/capitalistic system. Then Cuba because our political system is way better than theirs?......where do we stop?
We want no part of N. Korea, I can tell you that. Not only do they expect the US to attack, they are welcoming the opportunity. There is no bigger hater of America than N. Korea. Diplomacy (remember that word?) is the solution with fanatical country.
Here is my question:
The last time a president named Bush went to the Middle East to do some Saddamizing (for a much more noble cause in most Americans view; Saddam was beating up a smaller country that time) he was soundly defeated the next election by an unknown, slick-talking gov. from Arkansas. What happens if/when the Democrats regain control of the White House, the "hawks" are sent flying, and US foreign policy does another about-face, again.
Doesn't foreign policy, much like fish management, require some consistency to be effective?
Basically we are in unchartered territory here folks, it will be more than interesting to see the long term results of this period of "liberation".
Ike
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#194260 - 04/15/03 12:39 AM
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Wow!!!!! I don't know who is next but I know stldh20(sp) and chappy are wasting their talent on Bob's p.p. fishing board. That kind of stuff sells for big bucks on television! Conquer the Holy Lands ....(save em from the Arabs) finance it with drug money from sailboats, and throw in a Marine colonel who is a traitorous *******! That Is Sweeps stuff boys! Hot dam! Whens the next episode? herm
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#194261 - 04/15/03 01:42 AM
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Carcass
Registered: 10/31/02
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I like how you jump in to make fun of our opinions herm without expressing your own.
So where does the US take its new foreign policy, herm?
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