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#195387 - 04/29/03 07:19 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Why is it that people think I'm posting about them. Aunty, your always welcome.
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#195388 - 04/29/03 08:18 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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OK 30%ers I will admit to you and Ramon that ,even though unintended, I did step over the line bringing up tactics of some other extreme environmental groups making it personal to Ramon. Not my deal at all. I guess I prefer being accused of "baiting" more than accusing someone of illegal acts I am quite sure they do not and will not contemplate or try. Lots of posts on this board piss people off and are taken personally and that will continue I suppose. Labelling people will also continue.

What is so difficult to understand about opposing the methods used by WT>? I don't think that if you oppose the extreme tactics that automatically makes you someone who could care less about wild fish and someone who could care less about the harmful hatchery practices that need to be changed. We're not against buffer zones around streams and habitat restoration. The list of agreement is lots longer than the list of points of disagreement. For every emotive statement I make the 30%ers usually fire back a volley of their own emotive insults or personal attacks. I am not going to go in the closet and pout and refuse to engage. Reasonable debates are much easier face to face than on the chat room.
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#195389 - 04/29/03 08:19 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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h20..don't forget the bong
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#195390 - 04/29/03 08:59 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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if they shut down all the hatcherys what do they expect us to catch you got it wild fish.
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#195391 - 04/29/03 09:27 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Looks like the Pro WT group has been networking...the 30%ers have grown to 39%....The opposition is at 61% ...Maybe I better work the phones and get the numbers juiced back where they really reflect the group again (70/30)....Oh I know the poll isn't objective and wouldn't hold up in court....
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#195392 - 04/29/03 10:09 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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420 points to grandpa for knowing what a bong is and knowing how to use it in the right context.....

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#195393 - 04/29/03 10:36 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Registered: 04/29/03
Posts: 84
Loc: Mount Vernon, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by grandpa:
Would you help raise money to combat Washington Trout propaganda?
I would help raise money to support rational discussion of the facts of natural resource management. I woulld also help raise money to support a forum where divergent points of view on this topic could be aired in an environment where people want to learn from others and perhaps be open to changing their minds. It is my personal belief that WT does not contribute to such a discussion and in fact does distort the truth from time to time. However, they aren't the only ones guilty of this. So I don't see the point of attacking them, but I do see the point of providing a source of reliable, unbiased information on these important issues. Anyone else want to start such an effort??
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#195395 - 04/30/03 03:35 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Registered: 03/07/00
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Since the atmosphere here has become such that I can't participate in a credible debate
Aunty, I hate to say it but you're starting to sound like another famous ex member.

I'm not sure if I missed something, but I just can't see where you'd get the idea that your opinion wasn't welcome? huh

Dredging up year-old threads that are completely irrelevant to this discussion and are meant only to inflame is bad form IMHO, and only serves to weaken your position.

C'mon Aunty, whatever happened, don't take it so personally. smile
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#195397 - 04/30/03 03:59 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 305
Loc: Extreme Left of Center
Listen guys we are all passionate about the resource we enjoy and the demeaning name calling is not a good way to go about solving he problem.
I guess my question to WT would be what do you propose to do to replace the hathcery fish that not only provide a catch/kill fishery but also contribute, in a major way, to the regions economy? It's the same question we face over here in Oregon.
I realize that hatchery fish should not intermingle with wild fish but if the state uses some common sense in their policies concerning this then the impact will be minimal.
I'm a late comer into this thread but as an officer in one of he regins top sports anglers advocasy groups (ANWS) we need to address these issues in a reasonable and mature way.
We can work on certain issues with groups that in other issues we might oppose but in the end there has to be a reasonable solution.
Enhancement of wildfish and their habitat along with providing sports anglers the opportunity to keep a fish for consumption should be our common goal.
I know for a fact that AuntyM has done alot of research into proposing some sort of replacement to the indiscriminantly wild fish killing gill nets...so cut her some slack huh?
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#195398 - 04/30/03 04:07 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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That's what I'm sayin' Aunty, I musta missed the personal attack?? I'm not attacking you, just tryin' to figure out why you're so mad? huh

Edit: Ok, now I see what you're talking about.
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#195399 - 04/30/03 04:37 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Loc: Portland
Aunty-

Another example of how you only see fit to put one side of a story out there.

Why didn't you also post my retraction, where I admitted that I was wrong and that I was guilty of misinterpreting the communications that Bob and I did have....

??

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#195400 - 04/30/03 05:52 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Registered: 10/13/00
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I think it's time for this to stop, it's giving me the hives beathead
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#195401 - 04/30/03 08:24 PM Re: Washington Trout POLL
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Good one Jerry! I with you on that.
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