I see what your saying.


If it came down to it and we were in a defensive position we could beat them all hands down.

Dont you think our goverment thought about that a long time ago.

Most everyone in the world would be dead but we would win.

There is only one downside to re-electing Bush.
And thats having to hear all the crying and whining from the small but vocal anti-Bush group. Bush is a very smart and strong president and he will get my vote again. Just to bad we cant keep him in there for a third term.

Now were gonna fight the whole world? Geez you guys relax. Its seems that if you like Bush the WMD is only one reason out of a handful for the war with Iraq. If you dislike or are of the opposite party, than the WMD was the only reason for war. For me its still to early for me to say that no WMDs will be found.

I'm not sure you could say ANYBODY won if the rest of the world is dead. Sounds more to me like it's a game that shouldn't be played.......by anyone.

I'm just glad they're busting and convicting a few of these rich rip-off stock manipulators here at home. Otherwise we probably would look like idiot duped warmongers.

Max

You are aware that Pres Bush LOST the popular vote DML. Right...

You are aware that he won the electoral vote. Which is the only one that matters.

I think the statement above is what the "popular vote" response stemmed from. Seems the "small" group was actually the majority of the voters.

Like you said, though, you either win the electoral college or you lose the election.

As the son of a Missouri Democrat whose widow, my step-mother, is a Canadian Liberal (and GOOF: Good Old Ontario Family--G-O-O-F) and whose father was a devout Republican (my grandfather, dead years ago in the car he drove on his rural postal route--Willow Springs, MO), I tend to stick to myself.

I'm just glad somebody busted a few rich rip-off stock manipulators here at home. Otherwise we WOULD look like duped warmongers.

Anyone remember the administration chant leading up to the war?

The two words that Bush -Chaney-Rumsfeld-Powell and their minions repeated at every oppotunity?

"Imminent Threat"

That was the justification, everything else was secondary.

And to me, at least, it's proving out to be the biggest lie of this new millenium.

Where was the left when Clinton Lied to the entire world under oath.

Where was the left when Clinton gave the Chinese classified military technology that gave them the power to strike us at home. Giving them 50 years of technology. Before and after the Demecratic party took contributions from the chinese.

Where was the left when Hillary Clinton used inside information in the Stock Market.

I think we got lied to a little in that era.

Now people are saying that our president is lying to or lied to us. Why are people jumping the gun with him.

Aunty M - ah the voice of sanity (didn't think I'd say that did you?) you are absolutely correct this time. It truly is scary. I've said a few things on this board that were critical of GW. Would that be enough for me to be dubbed a "suspected terrorist"? I'm afraid, after looking at Atty. Gen Ashcroft, that it just might in his mind. And with the attitude of "you are either with us or against us" we all, Liberals and Conservatives, Republican, Democrats, & others need to look long and hard at this. And please don't forget, the greatest Civil Libertarians of our country have been from all stripes of the political spectrum. Barry Goldwater and William O. Douglas come to mind, but there are many others.

Rich, I too agree with you most of the time in regards to fishing issues, but are you on crack? If the rest of the world or even a significant portion of it (say OPEC for instance) decided to take a stand against the US economically, it would be devastating. Devastating to all but we have so much farther to fall. Obviously we would not want that and we would protect our "national interest" militarily. And we can not make that fight work for us or the world. Read your history man, every superpower throughout time has gone through the ebb and flood of power. That ebb of power will happen to the US, why would we seek to accelerate it by pi**ing off everyone else?

But listen to Aunty - she is right. Wouldn't it be ironic if the largest terrorist attack on our liberty came from the man from Missouri?

All I can say is isolation would be fine with me if it came down to it. Screw the rest of the world if need be.

If we run out of oil than Ill get a horse. I could raise a garden some cows and chickens and be fed. Got wood for the wood stove and candles.

Who Electricity who needs T.V. and a computer and all that crap. I could get by without it.

With a fishin rod and a gun and a little piece of land my family and I could be just fine

With a few motivated people that are a little nutts, lotts of guns and ammo anything is possible.

Forks for instance. You could cutt of the rest of the world and Forks would be just fine.

Now Seattle. Uh Ohh, things would fall apart a little without OPEC and the Internet.

I might be a little crazy!

Fortunately, I don't think GW is as extreme as ol' Rich here.

Heck, huntin' and gatherin' and living to the ripe old age of about 45-50..........who could ask for more?

Is'nt there anything we all can agree on? How about this.

Going fishing is better then sex.

Well maybe not

Boy the Bush Haters Club is out in force on this thread...Same old ..same old....The old appeasement mentality which I believe got us into the mess we are in with terrorism in the first place. After 9/11 we finally started backing up our rhetoric with action and it is paying off. I think if all you socialist maniacs get your way we're all dead. Thanks to Allah you are all in the vocal minority where you belong.

This left leaning rant is sucking the life out of me....... I suspect that those most at risk of losing their "civil liberties" don't belong in this country anyway....Don't worry eddie, JA isn't after that copy of Clinton's innaugural speech just yet. I think the FBI is keeping an eye on all of those purchasing Hillary's new book though ....talk about lies....oooo weeee

i don't get the problem here. so we were lied to about WMD so the public would support millitary action in Iraq. it shouldn't matter.
i mean it's not like little bush lied about a blow job or anything that important right?

grandpa... Whats not to hate about Bush?????

Also though i think he did lie to the world i am not prepared to accuse him of it hence all my comments about the uncertainty and my judgement bing based on the outcome.

What i will say is that Bush has done nothing for me in ant way shape or form.. I don't know of a single decision he has made that benefits me at all. Yet done many things that ultimatly hurt my interests and my wallet.
Now granted the world doesn;t revolve around me however his actions determine how i will vote.

If Bush turns out to have lied or was even wrong on the WMD issue that is far worse than everything clinton did during his entire presidency. Why??? because he asked Americas young men and women to go kill and be killed and put their blood on my hands. That is infinantly worse than any sex scandle