JR32

You have stated that; "Squafish bounties were mentioned earlier as being possibly the same thing but there is one very important difference 'squawfish are a non native species'

Well Jr32, I hate be the one to "pop" your bubble about that one, but "northern pikeminnow (squafish) are native to the Columbia River system."

Sorry, but that's the way that it is!

Cowlitzfisherman

Rob.............. is that right!

Are you talking about only fish or are you talking about anything that walks, crawls, flies, bites or lays maggots?

Cowlitzfisherman

The intention killing of Dogfish is a BIG no no!
I believe the ticket is stiff- $250.00!

If I happen to catch one, which is rarely, I keep them for veggie or rose garden! They make wonderful fertilizer!!

Lastly, they are edible... some seafood chains are cooking dogfish as "fish" in fish and chips.

Sorry CFM but I do not belive they are.http://www.fisheries.org/idaho/northern_pikeminnow.htm

It may be a mistake but the Columbia is not listed here.

And Rob I don't know anyone that eats coyotes, or for that matter moles, yuk. I could come up with a few others but It's about dinner time and I would like to be able to eat it. <img border="0" alt="[eat]" title="" src="graemlins/eat.gif" />

The guy next to us in our boat slip (canadian)
says he loves to eat them and always asks us to bring them back for him.

ive also killed a few over the years nowadays only the ones that are around 4ft fillet out right away and put in a container with milk and a couple splashes of vinegar overnight on ice ( supposed to remove the urine as they do urinate thru their skin) nice boneless fillets and they taste as good as any other whitefish with the exception of halibut in my opinion

BW


If you don't believe me or the statement below, check it out for yourself at:
http://www.efw.bpa.gov/EW/SUBJECTS/EDUCATION/PIKEMINNOW/pikeminnow99.htm

or; http://www.pikeminnow.org/info.htm

"The northern pikeminnow is a large member of the minnow family. It has a long snout and large mouth. It is dusky green above and silvery-bronze below. It is similar in shape to the walleye, but a pikeminnow doesn't have the walleye's spiny dorsal fins and white-tipped tail fin. Unlike walleye, northern pikeminnow are native to the Columbia River system."


Cowlitzfisherman

I used to cut their tails off and release them, I also used to shoot all birds and squirrels I ran across with my pellet gun. I've grown up since then.
One summer back in the early 80's I found a lot of dogfish around Guemes Is. with baloons on 10 feet of leader tied to their tails. Anybody care to claim that one? I thought it funny back then .

Before you take dogfish into your diet, you might do some research. As I recall, one of the problems with our beloved variety is that it has a heavy concentration of mercury. I don't recall the details as it's been 15 years or so ago when I read the WDF report, but the concentrations weren't at toxic levels but would accumulate in time. It seems like the mercury in the fish was above federal guidelines, so the flesh couldn't be sold. Certainly, you shouldn't feed doggies to kids or pregnant women until this has been verified-- or not.

Keith

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............

Should I be worried????

In Great Britain they call it "flake", and they are eaten all over the world in various recipes, primarily as 'fish & chips". 100 grams of dogfish has 156 calories and 9 grams of fat, second only to the king salmon with 222 calories and 15.6 grams of fat.

The fish should be soaked in lemon juice or vinegar overnight to neutralize the urea.

Zen Leecher was kind enough to give me a book called "The Dogfish Cookbook" by Russ Mohney. The funny thing is that since I got the book I have not caught one, but we have been thinking about a "Dogfish Derby" for the boys since they have always wanted to catch a shark. Might just have to give one of the 65 recipes in the book a try.

Andy

Squawfish (I refuse to call them "northern pikeminnow"), Ptychocheilus oregonensis, are not only native to the Columbia River drainage but also to most major river systems in Oregon, Washington and British Columbia as far north as the Nass. Other species of the genus Ptychocheilus are common throughout other western states from California to Colorado.

Kinda funny that people will eat dogfish but when I tried using one for crab bait the crabs wouldnt touch it. Smart crabs

Well like I said it could have been a mistake that the Columbia was omited from the list on that web site. O- well, my bad. <img border="0" alt="[wall]" title="" src="graemlins/wall.gif" />

When eating dogfish, there are concerns about mercury levels (as with almost any long-lived, predatory fish that bioaccumulates mercury)- so I wouldn't do it every day

Here are just a few market names under which Dogfish (Squalus Acanthias) are sold around the world:

Sand Shark, Gray Fish, Rock Cod, Rock Salmon

Doesn't ROCK SALMON sound so much better to eat than Dogfish!

... and on that Squawfish debate- I believe I have read that they are native to the Columbia system, however the reservoir pools at the dams have caused the populations to increase over historical levels as they like these slow water "lake" environments.

If killing dogfish is a sin, I am toast. I will save you from ALL the gory descriptions of torture, experiments and general biocide (is that a word?)
I can tell you that like the movie "Jaws" they blow up good! And if you think you are good at making herring spin... try adding; flip, barrel roll, shake, flop, stall, tow and play dead...

Okay, I am not proud of my teenage years for many reasons and I am willing mend my ways but I may need help. Is there a dogfish anti-violence support group? DADF? Dogfish Against Drunken Fishermen? DBA? Dogfish Beaters Anonymous?
I can't imaging eating them though, Mercury or not. Mom taught me to never play with with my food. Therefore, I could never see them as tablefare.

Is it still okay to play with them though? Have ya ever grabbed em by the nose, turned them upside-down and let them chew on stuff? Pencils, bait, paper or whatever is laying around. They are pretty good at crushing Coke cans. And the spikes... have you ever made them stab stuff? Now that is fun!

Let me know...

I'm sure somewhere down the road some advertising agency will get in on it and you'll see them marketed as "first of the year wild Copper River Dogfish!" $30 a pound!

I'm stocking up.

JTD

Now that was a pretty funny post!

Cowlitzfisherman

JTD that reminds me we used to ........ uh er oh never mind. Anyway if you start the support group I'll be the first to join!

JTD-

thanks for all the ideas! Cant wait to try them out!