#206106 - 08/05/03 07:22 PM
Fraser, Ick!
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Registered: 04/30/99
Posts: 526
Loc: Lake Forest Dark, Wa
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"WARNING TO ALL ANGLERS" After a startling increase over the past few days of recreational anglers being admitted to hospitals in Mission and Abbotsford with serious infections, doctors on duty stated that anglers with any open wounds should use great caution or refrain from standing in - or washing their hands altogether in - any slow moving freshwater. This warning comes after doctors uncovered evidence that two fisherman contracted Aeromonas hydrophila bacteria from washing their dirty hands in seemingly clean freshwater. Doctors have warned that A. Hydrophila bacteria (which comes from human sewage) is present in the Fraser and other local rivers at all times and can cause massive trauma to the human body (i.e., gas bubbles in the musculature, liquefaction of muscle tissue and organs, gangrene, serious infections etc. "If you do have an open wound and wash your hands in water where you happen to be fishing, and you notice any immediate redness or swelling, get to a hospital as soon as you can," doctors warned. This is serious stuff and no joke! One angler I know was admitted to the emergency ward in Abbotsford's MSA Hospital today at 1 o'clock after standing in the Fraser River with an exposed cut on his leg while fishing for sockeye salmon . For the unfortunate but lucky angler, the result will be a week of work missed and the headache of being hooked up to intravenous for four days.  BD
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#206108 - 08/06/03 01:06 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
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4 Salt I don't care how hot it is I am wearing waders 
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#206109 - 08/06/03 01:10 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/03/00
Posts: 657
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Yeah guys and gals, realize that B.C. has no regulations on raw sewage dumping like we do. All their stuff goes in untreated! It's sick to be up in the Gulf Islands and watch a yacht dump in the straights while you're running downriggers! I'd bet they do the same in their rivers.
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#206111 - 08/06/03 01:50 PM
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Alevin
Registered: 05/24/03
Posts: 16
Loc: Pendleton
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I think the same thing happened to me. fishing here in eastern oregon I was wet wadding the last few days and my legs started to really itch but know matter how much I itched it never turned red well only on my arms. but I know it ws the river because I was fine until I started wadding. I now have it in my eyes and it sucks but it is getting better so I think I will wait it out. When the water warms up it is more hospitable to diseases and bacterias.
I hate hospitals
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#206112 - 08/06/03 01:55 PM
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Smolt
Registered: 12/28/01
Posts: 89
Loc: Sadly in Seattle
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I am planning to head up there this Friday with a friend from Texas. Maybe I better not mention it to him. I thought I would be immune since I live near the Willamette River and fish it all the time (Portland is famous for their downstream corn-backed brown trout migrations  ). Anyway my friend Hog King just sent me this: http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/classes/MB492/hydrophilahayes/ Check out the pictures at the end of the article.
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#206113 - 08/06/03 06:26 PM
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Bead
Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1202
Loc: Duvall
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I just returned from fishing the Fraser on Monday & Tuesday. I spent at least 8 hours each day up to my knees in the river wearing just sandals. In fact, one foot has a recent puncture wound from stepping on a rusty nail. I had a Tetanus shot last week as a precaution. Feel fine so far, but watching the foot closely. Played racquetball today and no pain. Not really too worried, I've been through 3 divorces so I can handle just about anything.  Did catch a limit of socks and then some. 
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#206114 - 08/06/03 06:45 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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Not really too worried, I've been through 3 divorces so I can handle just about anything. Aww, you're just being modest Snake. Gettin' outta New York AND Los Angeles, now that was a feat!  <img border="0" alt="[wall]" title="" src="graemlins/wall.gif" /> Hmmm, on second thought...
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#206115 - 08/07/03 09:50 AM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/30/02
Posts: 1395
Loc: Lake Stevens
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Anyone catching any fish up there?
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#206116 - 08/07/03 09:52 AM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/30/02
Posts: 1395
Loc: Lake Stevens
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Anyone catching any fish up there?
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#206117 - 08/07/03 12:31 PM
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Alevin
Registered: 12/01/00
Posts: 10
Loc: Chilliwack, B.C.
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Originally posted by Kyle_A:
Yeah guys and gals, realize that B.C. has no regulations on raw sewage dumping like we do. All their stuff goes in untreated! It's sick to be up in the Gulf Islands and watch a yacht dump in the straights while you're running downriggers! I'd bet they do the same in their rivers. Hey Kyle, don't let the facts get in the way of the load of BS that you're dumping!
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#206119 - 08/07/03 04:30 PM
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 07/01/03
Posts: 6
Loc: Surrey B.C.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Now you all are some gulible yanks I must say!!! I tell ya what, that post is bs, our rivers will always be 3 times what you have left, and I wouldn't worry about your leg falling off for wet wading in the Fraser(well at least the upper  )
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#206120 - 08/07/03 04:37 PM
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
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Well you canadians can keep your heads up your you-know-what's if you want to! I think this article pretty much sums it up! http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_1101_06.html
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#206121 - 08/07/03 05:21 PM
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Alevin
Registered: 12/01/00
Posts: 10
Loc: Chilliwack, B.C.
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I've read the article before. I still don't see the reference to raw sewage being dumped in the Fraser. I know that Victoria dumps untreated sewage but it's not on the Fraser. As I said before don't let the facts get in the way.
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#206122 - 08/07/03 06:06 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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The largest impact on Georgia Strait of any single pollution source comes from the GVRD, which discharges 72% of total sewage entering the Strait, compared to only 6% from the Victoria area.
"Oh, but at least Vancouver's sewage is treated", you say. Well, not exactly. An awful lot of Vancouver's sewage spills into the harbour before it's ever been near a treatment plant. This happens because of the GVRD's antiquated system of combined sewage overflows (CSOs), in which storm runoff and sewage share the same pipes. On rainy days, the storm drains full up and mix with raw sewage and the whole mess overflows into the shallow waters of Burrard Inlet, False Creek, and the Fraser River - a total of 200 CSO "events" per year, equal to 62 billion litres (enough to fill the 60,000 seat BC Place Stadium 30 times over).
While the GVRD is the only Canadian jurisdiction in Georgia Strait that still has CSOs, the effects are not limited to the Lower mainland. Commercial fishers often report raw sewage fouling their nets. Last summer residents of Roberts Creek on the Sunshine Coast watched in alarm as a band of raw sewage, 600 feet long by 3 feet wide, rolled onto their beach -complete with tampons, condoms, toilet paper and grey sludge. A couple of days of heavy rain, a southeast gale, the current of the Fraser River, and a high tide -a combination of fairly normal occurrences- had combined to bring the stinking mess to their doorsteps.
Though the GVRD has been studying the problems of CSOs for twenty years, they've been moving at a glacial pace to do anything about it, and in fact, recently removed money from the CSO abatement budget while ordering yet another study.
A little truth on both sides perhaps?
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#206123 - 08/07/03 06:49 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/10/01
Posts: 570
Loc: Snohomish, WA, USA
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"I still don't see the reference to raw sewage being dumped in the Fraser." "Aeromonas hydrophila in the Harrison river mortalities could easily have come from the sewage that is being discharged into the river from the town of Harrison. " I guess you win on a technicality. 
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#206124 - 08/07/03 11:12 PM
Re: Fraser, Ick!
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Bead
Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1202
Loc: Duvall
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If you read above, I fished the Fraser waderless for two days.......I'm fine. Not crazy about all the negative news, but I love BC waters. Especially, the Harrison, fast, clean, clear and full of fish. I'll fish it at least twice this fall for world-class chums and springs. 
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#206127 - 08/09/03 12:09 AM
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 5
Loc: Vancouver, BC
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A quote from further down in the same article.
"This isn't just true on our side of the border. In Puget Sound, combined sewage overflows from ten US cities pour untreated sewage into sensitive streambanks and shoreline areas. In over 60% of Puget Sound's estuaries, water quality threatens the health of fish, shellfish or wildlife, primarily due to high fecal coliform counts and toxic metals and chemicals in estuary sediments"
Just FYI
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#206128 - 08/09/03 05:32 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 379
Loc: BELLINGHAM / EVERSON
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S. Szymczak, Let them be SCARED!!!! Just means more room for us up on the Harrison Bar  I fish every year up there in just swim shorts and I'm pretty healthly, well, except for the golf ball size growths on my legs, I'm ok
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