Hey micro,
I am glad that the county is taking care of the cash cow in such manner.Some how I do not find it hard to believe that you are a good asset to the county.

I do not know about your rejects becoming home builders but sure if it works for you.I would rather look back at the end of the day and see what I have done than think of the **** I wiped all day.
I would smoke dope at work but I spend all day looking for my pencil is my usuall answer that request.

I am currios though as I never checked the web page.How much of our county taxes do you get?Is it twenty something or the more martyrish fifteen something an hour. Do not want an answer but I am begining to see why this info should be made avalable to the public.

Predator dawg,
Its pretty sad that you beleive that only money can make a person better. What ever happened to ethics. In an economy thats hurting and alot of people are losing there jobs or taking a pay decrease just to keep there job. You say pay teachers more to get better quality people. I say they for the most part are doing ok for now when the economy picks up than try to squeeze the tax payers for more$$$. And I do have friends that teach.
And doing quite well at there current rate of pay.

AuntyM
I think you are misunderstanding what Elkrun and myself are trying to say here. (As I understand it anyway - that "Inflection" thing can be difficult")

My take on what has been posted to TM is that we do have respect for his career, but want to make sure he understands where others who choose different careers are coming from.

I felt like TM's attitude kida sucked when I first read his post.

TM - I wasn't stating your father couldn't retire on his savings, I was really relating back to my both my grandfathers health after their careers ended.

I am sorry to hear about your industrial accident. Your work ethic will likely land you a good job once you done with school. Hope you like it more than you think you will.

I am not a teacher, but I do see how hard teachers work, and I think the kids in PA are lucky to have a guy with an attitude like elkrun's.

AuntyM - I am now sure you totally misunderstood what I was trying to say, and maybe you still do. I have enjoyed reading your posts on other threads, so I'm sure my wording didn't covey my message well.

Elkrun, Now I'm being to civilized. We'll find out I guess in a few more posts.

Elkrun,
So according to you if you work your back for a living you only have half a brain!!
Well I do work my back for a living (a choice I made). But with my half a brain I did graduate high school five months early with a 3.8 gpa and also did two years of comminity collage while working full time. Boy what could I have acomplished if I had a whole brain.

could someone email the public link that was censored. I work for the state and I am curious if my name is listed. Thanks In Advance.
Moderator,!! was it necessary to censor a link that is OBVIOUSLY a state provided PUBLIC, OPEN RECORDS, link. Kinda a wierd reaction to exchanging public information.
This has been an intriguing thread
talljeeper@yahoo.com

TJ,
just sent it to you.

I posted that on my last post.

'cause we aren't all badmuthafarkers like TM. Hey Kev........can we call you "college boy" now?

A little perspective on this.
260 days a year=2080 hrs=full time job
181 days a year=1448 hrs=part time job

Pay scale for PT job as follows
$21000=$14.50 hr
$25000=$17.26 hr
$30000=$20.71 hr
$35000=$24.17 hr
$40000=$27.62 hr
$45000=$31.07 hr
$50000=$34.53 hr
$55000=$37.98 hr
$60000=$41.43 hr
$65000=$44.88 hr

And in the Port Angeles school dist. the list shows 302 employees with only 7 people making under $30000 that would be 2.32% of the employees.
And I would agree the those 7 people may need a raise.
I didnt figure it out but my guess would be the average wage to be around $32 an hr.
Not to bad for a part time job ya think.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AuntyM:
[QB]

I think it's a lame argument. Loggers work harder. Teaching is more challenging.


AuntyM
This is where I am confused. I don't know how you got this impression from posts either elkrun or I posted. I know that was not an argument I intended to present.

I guess some of us people with only half a brain and no masters degree dont understand what it is to someone. Yea RIGHT!! Good post AuntyM

It is an example of where you misunderstood.

I don't feel any of my posts have implied that, as you stated: "Loggers work harder. Teaching is more challenging" (or whatever profession you want to thow into that last spot)

Also, I don't think I "went off" on TM any more than he "went off" me (I felt included in his comments to elkrun)

Also, you stopped short of quoting the line where I attempted to let TM know that I wasn't just here to flip him Sh*^t. I wasn't, but I wasn't about to just let the his comments go w/o a reply.

I will leave your comments about why I'm not a logger, etc., alone and write it off to you sticking up for a friend.

That's about all I can say, and about as civil as I can say it.

I sure hope Timberman doesnt damage his leg anymore than it is when he is trying to remove it from the rear end of a pair of dockers.

Foot removal

Nah knee is feeling better now!

Maybe I should look at people that wear dockers like people look at me when I wear riggin cloths?!?!?

The repect that "some" educated people have for others that are not educated but work HARD for a living is a shame!!!

And to those teachers that so truely hate me!
And say I cant "deal" with teaching kids! I just spent the better part of a day with my sons class not only helping them learn but a speech on wood products which was the subject of the week... TM


Thanx Marsha!!!!!

You know Iam a good person thats all that counts!!!!

OK Duraboat, that was funny.

AuntyM, point taken. I know that email/posting correspondence is risky.

And Timber Man, I don't think there are any of "those" people in this thread. I certainly don't feel that way.

Sorry. I have been trying to delet this, but instead it seems to be multiplying,

Please see below.

The more I try to erase the more I make it worse. Sorry!

Surecatch

You certainly know how and when to "chime in" to make yourself look the best! But don't all "writers" play the same game that way?

1) Make just enough noise to be heard… then back off
2) Come back in make a few "intelligent" comments and then back off again.
3) Wait, until all the hot "tuff" auguring and crap is over, and then come in again with a round up of the debate, showing that you are the smartest sucker in town!

4) Make the "kill"


Don't worry Timber man!

Here are some "great" words of wisdom to remember and teach your kids!

"I don't get it. I wouldn't have posted that site for all to see just simply because I know that several people on this board work for the government and that it might make them uncomfortable."

Now that could be a case of high voice problem… or pulling one zippers up to fast

"Your thread will not lead to a better/more efficient government, and more importantly, will make it difficult for many PP board members to take you seriously in the future."

How much do you want to bet on that one? There are a few more of you boys out there now that have felt the sting of the hook.

"Requests to the Gov't for information on specific salaries, or whatever else one can think of, creates a lot of work for the agency and wastes even more of our tax payers dollars. And in the end what do they get?"

Well, we now get the truth and instead of a bunch of "Bull $hit" answers!

"I am going to go down for an hour tomorrow morning before I head in to work, so I'll let you know what I hear from the daily crew. My school-teacher friend, who has summers off, reported to me…."

Well, we knew that some you are people who were fighting this battle for others who can't fight their own battles in the first place!

"Don't move to Bush Point, I am sure it would be even worse than fishing there! Much like the Quilcene, (and many other locations) the people living near the public access have to put up with the PUBLIC. I am one of them (the public) and hate it."

Well, if we read very closely to some peoples replies, we all may agree with your own statement!

"I know the members on this board are likely not the problem, but thought I would post this just FYI.." Now who does that shoe fit?

"Try having a point at the end of your story, it makes it so much more enjoyable for the listener"."
Now that one foot is sized, who is the person who is saying this?

"Thanks for the fun CFM, but this game's over for me. You make light of this, but when you post personal information about board members, some won't let that go. Or as you might say, it will continue to fester. I don't imagine, as a "say it like it is" guy, that that's the reputation you are looking for."

Oh really?

"He got you there CFM...... Thats some funny stuff!"

So now we rate the merit of this tread on "…some funny stuff:?

"I am not a teacher, but I do see how hard teachers work, and I think the kids in PA are lucky to have a guy with an attitude like elkrun's"

Yep! Your not a teacher, but you sure have a lot of friends that are, and that explain why you are defending them so hard! Who was it that said; "I am going to go down for an hour tomorrow morning before I head in to work, so I'll let you know what I hear from the daily crew. "My school-teacher friend", who has summers off, reported to me…."?

And you can still sit here on this board with a straight face and say;

"I will leave your comments about why I'm not a logger, etc., alone and write it off to you sticking up for a friend."

Now do you really believe that we can't put 2 and 2 together…Jeff Dodd?


Cowlitzfisherman