But it's so much fun watching them get all wriled up!

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I think its funny that some people think that us being there is costing American and Iraqi lives, so we should leave.

I probably shouldnt go to far, as I'm really just dragging myself into this, but....

1) 3,000 people died in 9/11.
2) 9/11 was performed by Taliban/Al Quada.
3) Taliban/Al Quada are sponsered by who??

Gee, looks like Bush really screwed up there, going after the source and all... For anyone thinking that the Taliban/Al Quada were the specific terrorists that we should be targeting, here's a question... Who would Saddam sponser next? There is always someone else.

Just my $.02...

Curtis

P.S. h2o, there are plenty of nations going to war in the Bible.... Whats your point? Are you saying that going to war is unChristian?

terrorists are like seals.....to damn many of them

So we've spent 79 Billion to date and Dubwa is asking for another 80+ Billion 'cause it's what we need to rebuild...Let's see, 79 Billion in 6 months and another 80+ billion total? Didn't they say it was going to take 5 years to rebuild?

Does the Dubwa regime think we're so fricken stupid not to figure out that 80+billion is still not enough???

We have 73% of our military over in Iraq right now and the idiot still wants to take on Korea.

That same idiot who pissed off the rest of the world by saying "F-YOu! We'll go it alone" and now has the cahones to go back and say:

"oh, will you please join in the reconstruction 'cause it sure does cost alot to rebuild something that we destroyed..." What a fricken retard!!!

So to date:
1.Worst economy in at least 40 years
2.No WMD -never was and now they admit it. They lied about the WMD to gain approval.
3.Casualties now higher than after the war was declared over.

Last night they showed the innocent people in Iraq who were killed by Saddam in the early 90's for rising up against him...oh yea, the U.S. told those poor folks to do just that, but then we walked away from them and now they're dead...who's fault is that?

So are you still going to vote for him next election???

I'd pay whatever it takes to eliminate these folks who spread terrorism around the globe. We are the only real superpower left with the ability to project a presence anywhere in the world. We need to step up and be the world's policeman, because the UN doesn't have the stomach for it.

When an organization says that their main goal is the destruction of the US way of life, I say great. Thanks for making yourself a target.

I would personally be quite okay with the elimination (I mean killing) of anyone who is directly involved in any terrorist organization, anyone who supports a terrorist organization with monetary contributions, or anyone who supports their actions verbally.

It is us or them. It isn't pretty, but then again, war never is. Can you imagine people whining like this in World War 2, on December 4th 1943? (Three days before the second anniversary of a horrific sneak attack.)

Sorry for candy coating my feelings on this issue, but hopefully you can read between the lines and figure out how I really feel.

Andy

Republican Rep. Zach Wamp (news, bio, voting record) of Tennessee said, "It's a huge number, and Congress needs to step up to its constitutional responsibility to vet the request and put as many questions to the president as we can."

The first question should be...

"Are you sure that is enough?"

Twig...

How many have we lost to date? Is that more then the amount Saddam Houssein and his sons had a DIRECT part in killing?

Youre right, we should just sit back and watch people get killed... Hey, it's them, not us...

Ugh, you anti-bush guys are the same people who will be crying for help when the bombs are going off inside the US. The same people who said that 9/11 is all a conspiracy, that Bush saw it coming, right after you praised him for his noble actions concerning the aftermath of the attacks.

Curtis

BBVD: I am curious where you get your facts from? Can you post proof that Saddam and/or Iraq sponsored terrorism? The reason I ask is that you would be the very first person in the entire world to actually show some proof of that statement and it would be quite the scoop.

I just have one question: Where's the beef George? A 15 seceond sound bite wrapping yourself in motherhood doesn't justify asking for 200 billion. George needs to come clean and speak to the American people as though were not a bunch of mindless drones who will believe anything just because our commander and chief says so. Give your specifics with regards to links to Alqeda with Iraq..... I've given up on the the WMD....

During the Presidents speach, they showed the mass graves of people who rose up against Saddam and were killed back in the 90's. The problem is that the U.S. encouraged those people to stand up against Saddam and then we walked away...disgusting.

If the issue is that we're going to police the world, then we need to help out folks like Liberia and many of the countries in Africa. They are no worse than Saddam, but they don't have oil so you can do the math...

Third, there is still no connection to Al-Quieda so if we're trying to get rid of terrorists, we're still in the wrong place. So as for 9/11, I think the name of the guy who directed this was somebody name Osama Bin Laden. Yeah, that was it ;)_!

I know a kid over there, he say the Iraqis love us..

the country is crawling with foreign terrorist and we are "weeding" them out.

God bless that kid and all that are by his side , at war as well as at home.

Damn, this is ugly.

These threads can actually be interesting if people post something new, or at least a well constructed argument. On the other hand, the juvenile sarcasm and statements of opinion as fact just make it annoying. C'mon, you guys, try using the internet as a tool for growth rather than a rock to hide behind while you throw stones.

My opinion? I'm reserving it for when I get the facts, which many of you seem to already have.

$87M would be a small price to pay for security, but seeing as how we haven't got proof that we've accomplished ONE of our professed goals of this campaign, I'm becoming a little jaded.

Whatever happens in the mean time, I'll certainly express my opinion come election time.

The way I see it, we dont know anything unless Bush wants us to. We could know less then 1% of the information against Iraq.

I'll hold out for that 1%... Either way, we got rid of a terrorist. Who can deny that the man was NOT a terrorist?

Next, who can possibly deny that he sponsered terrorism? His regime alone was self sponsered. And if Bush says he was sponsering Al Quada, I dont need to see proof. That's why we hired him in the first place. Judgement.

Curtis

Once again no facts coming forth.
We didn't hire him. The majority didn't vote for him. And we sure wouldn't have for his "judgement" based upon his resume.
Your argument seems to be if you can't prove he's not a terrorist or sponsored terrorism then he must be a terrorist. I for one will deny that he's a terrorist until I see proof otherwise. Bush needs to start sharing the facts which all of this is supposedly based upon. In fact he would be in a lot less hot water had he done so which tells me there are no facts to substantiate those claims and without that we have an unjust war. Plain and simple. In one single post you have lost all credibility on this subject BBVD.

I know how much that is.......it's 21,804,511,278 green / glow Grand Slam Bucktails! Man that's a lot of Bucktails!!

In one respect, Dubya has done a fine, fine job.....using the media to draw a connection between 'terrorism' and Iraq. I believe it was a CNN poll I saw the other day that said 70% of Americans believe Saddam Hussein was involved with the 9/11 attacks...

??...according to every shred of evidence gathered in that case, there is absolutely zero justification for such belief...

There is no political power in America greater than relying on the American people's complacency...seems to be working quite well for Dubya...

Sounds like each of us needs to make a little trip to the ole sandbox and ask a few of the locals if he was a terrorist or not...

Isn't it all hearsay if you dont hear it for your self??

"The way I see it, we dont know anything unless Bush wants us to. We could know less then 1% of the information against Iraq.

I'll hold out for that 1%... Either way, we got rid of a terrorist. Who can deny that the man was NOT a terrorist?

Next, who can possibly deny that he sponsered terrorism? His regime alone was self sponsered. And if Bush says he was sponsering Al Quada, I dont need to see proof. That's why we hired him in the first place. Judgement."

I'm doing my best not to laugh here.

1) I'm thinking only an idiot would withhold information that would improve his standing with the voters. You can't seriously believe what you're saying....not without having actually given it some critical thought.

I agree Saddam is a terrorist, but as far as we KNOW, his terrorism has been limited primarily to his own people and his neighbors that we turned out backs on.

2) We don't know that we've gotten rid of anyone. For all we know Saddam is kickin' it with Osama. Or, he's running from Osama. Who knows? I haven't seen his corpse or any claims that we've identified his body.

3) You can believe what you believe, but don't tell me it's fact just because you believe it to be true. What's the proof that he's sponsored Al-Quaida?

4) You're one of those guys that believes everything an elected official tells you if you voted for them, and don't believe anything they tell you if you didn't, aren't you?