#210760 - 09/12/03 06:29 PM
Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Parr
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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Well I am still having line twist problems so I am respooling. Couldn't remember what was being talked about so I went with Maxima because I could recall the name. Picked up Chameleon and now am reading not to use it. Winch cable, bad for spin casting reels?
I need opinoins on open faced spin casting reels with a medium action rod. What line to use? I need it to cast as well as not twist. Mostly river fishing.
During a search I came up with limited info except for three brands. Throw some at me.
Should I take the Chameleon back or just use it and see for myself?
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#210761 - 09/12/03 06:37 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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This will probably open as big a debate as if you had asked about politics, but here is my .02
If you want to use mono with a limp one like Berkely XL or their Vision flourocarbon. They both have very little memory which should help. Many folks like the new spectra lines lines for a spinning reel.
I would not use Maxima on a spinning reel, as it is stiff and has a lot of memory. If you do use Maxima go down at least one size from what you would use in other lines. i.e. if you want 10lb test buy theri 8lb.
Maxima lines tend to be way underated. In other words it breaks at a much higher strain than indicated by their stated pound test.
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#210762 - 09/12/03 06:40 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Parr
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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Originally posted by surecatch: This will probably open as big a debate as if you had asked about politics, Good. Thats what I want. Everyones opinion about the best line.
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#210764 - 09/12/03 06:46 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Parr
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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I think I might take the Chameleon back and get the ultragreen as well. What is $10 to test a new line I have never used. As long as it releives my line twist problem I will have no complaints. I havn't had so many line twist problems in my life but within the past few weeks it has been terrible. Berkley Trilene XT Extra Tuff.
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#210765 - 09/12/03 06:57 PM
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13944
Loc: Tuleville
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Stren XT (Extra Trough. Might be called Extra Strength, actually).
Most excellent for spinning reels.
I've been using it for 2 seasons now for boondogging. I use 10lb, which supposedly has a 17lb breaking strength.
If I spool once in March, I might spool up again in July just for kicks and giggles. My July spool is still going strong. Used it yesterday to boondogg up 2 steelies, 1 coho, and a mid-teen king on an IMX 1141 with 8lb leaders. The leaders will always break well before the mainline does.
Good stuff.
I use the Maxima Ultragreen on my baitcasting rods, and for all leaders.
Line twists are usually caused when your drag is set too lose and you're fighting the fish. Any time you twist that bail and you do not retrieve line, it will put a twist in your line. The only time your bail is used on a spinning reel is when the fish is actively taking out line.
I cringe when I see someone actively cranking away on a spinning reel and not making any ground on a fish. All they are doing is twisting their line.
The only other time you might see line fly off your reel is if you've spooled it backwards.
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#210766 - 09/12/03 08:14 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2689
Loc: Yelmish
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if you're going to use maxima on a spinning reel, use ultragreen or crystal ivory. it's the limpest line they make that i know of
my personal favorite is izorline. strong, cheap, and casts pretty well, but i use the heavier tests on baitcasters as it can be a bit stiff
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#210767 - 09/12/03 09:26 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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What pound test Chameleon? I use 4lb Chameleon on a shimano 1000 with my noodle rod. stuff works good... and doesn't twist up as bad as the limp stuff... cause I mainly fish for silvers with spinners in the salt... Can't tell you about the 8-12... I only use ultragreen for heavier test on the spinning reels.
Now on Casting reels that is a totally different story... Chameleon has the best abrasion restistance of any line I've used... It is my choice for mainline on casting reels...
Ooops, I guess I put in 4 cents when you are only asking for two....
guess that makes me a communist?? :p
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#210768 - 09/12/03 09:36 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1877
Loc: Kingston, WA
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Maxima Chameleon is an excellant product for almost anything but mainline on a spinning reel. I fish baitcasters predominately but my river spinning reels are spooled with 30lb Power Pro. However, I also use a 3' tippet of Chameleon off the PP for river drift fishing. I'd keep the Max and use it for leaders. Great stuff, just not appropriate for spinning reels. Good luck.
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#210769 - 09/12/03 09:47 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Parr
Registered: 08/27/03
Posts: 40
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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I appreciate all of your replies. I also am interested in many more opinions.
I have decided to spool them with Maxima Ultragreen.
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#210771 - 09/12/03 11:01 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/12/00
Posts: 447
Loc: tacoma, Washington, US
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I use only chameleon for main and ultragreen for leader. Anybody else having no success using chameleon for leader?
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#210772 - 09/12/03 11:06 PM
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Anonymous
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chameleon has worked for leaders for me in the past but I think that UG is less visible...
have not done the scientific research to prove it... just guessing....
Aunty stay away from ande if you are accostomed to the breaking strenghth of maxima... or at least go up at least one size or you might break fish off... I've found that ande does not have the best knot strenghth of the lines I've used...
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#210773 - 09/13/03 12:10 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 05/03/02
Posts: 15
Loc: Kent Wa.
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Try the spider line mono I have used this stuff for every type of fish this has been the best line that I have used.
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#210776 - 09/13/03 02:56 AM
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Eyed Egg
Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 3
Loc: Westport, Wa
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#210777 - 09/13/03 06:59 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 326
Loc: Olympia
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good ole Ande, Aunty your right I am gettin ready to unspool my spinner due to complete line weirdness, stiff line, wont cast for crap, and tangling using maxima C. the stuff is awesome in my BC reels
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#210779 - 09/13/03 02:07 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 379
Loc: BELLINGHAM / EVERSON
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For a spinning reel, I agree with the 3 choices of, Ande Stren P-Line
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#210780 - 09/13/03 09:39 PM
Re: Fising Line. Opinions Wanted
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 272
Loc: Olympia
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Not impressed with Maxima ultragreen as mainline. Feels too stiff, too much memory, too thick. I've used P-Line extensively and regarding 20lb test and up, all I can say is, "INCREDIBLE!" The stuff is so darn hard to break off that I've decided to drop down to 15lb mainline. Great thing about this line is since it's a copolymer, it's so thin that i can load up all 300yds of 15lb on an ambassador 6501 C3 if i chose to do so. Because of it's thin diameter, you can use a heavier mainline than you normally do. In regards to line twist, based on my experience, there is no line that is immune. Use good quality swivels. And also make sure you spool on the line right!
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