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#211231 - 09/16/03 05:58 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
ROCK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 478
Loc: Between 2 Mountains
The Mucks,well if you beleive all that BS try again.Take care of the fish ,ok whatever.Seen enough to make any of you pissed off mad mad mad Why would you bye any of there fish anyway????Catch it your self .I'm with Easy boycott !!!
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#211232 - 09/16/03 07:55 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Chum Man Offline
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2685
Loc: Yelmish
kinda reminds me of why there's so few pinks in the nisqually now. i went down there fishing the other day and watched as the indians pulled their nets in and started tossing out dead humpies mad

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#211233 - 09/16/03 08:18 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Gusty Offline
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Registered: 04/27/99
Posts: 347
Loc: Everett, WA. USA
Sounds like they just want a few more bucks...I guess the Casino must not be bringing in all the cash they need...LOL

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#211234 - 09/16/03 09:20 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Fishinnut Offline
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Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 1188
Loc: Monroe, Washington
Unfortunately the casino is probably doing all of the funding. They are making money hand over fist there. They do have some fish programs that help. I believe I was told they funded the Reiter Ponds last year. Anyone hear of this? I am with Easy on this one too. Any net is too many nets. Ban the Nets!
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#211235 - 09/16/03 09:51 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
Emerald Queen Casino makes it possible for them to distribute over $2,000 to each tribal member PER MONTH...that includes the kids. Typical family with mom and dad and three kids gets $10,000 per month...without working or fishing. They do sell fresh salmon under the 1st ave South bridge near the Duwamish. Last year I sent a friend down there and he got 5 Coho over 10# for $20. Why bother?
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#211236 - 09/16/03 10:35 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
fish4steel Offline
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Registered: 09/12/01
Posts: 348
Loc: yelm, wa
just to throw a little gas on the fire here, they are advertising these fish as "Wild". I thought that would stir the pot a little rolleyes
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#211237 - 09/16/03 11:33 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
gettnsnapper Offline
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Registered: 07/04/03
Posts: 39
Loc: West Seattle
I heard one of the radio spots this am for the Muckleshoots new super salmon. It is called wild muckleshoot # 1 Salmon. I have been on board a tribal boat more than once during their Elliott bay fishery. The radio spot claims that all the netters have on board tanks with ice, and each fish is bled immediatley, They handel the fish with two hands, I can tell you right now that the river netters who some dont even have a boat but tie off the net on shore, and toss the fish in the trunk of the family car or truck. I have seen fish piled upon the deck of some of these tribal boats with no ice and they are thrown, kicked, stepped on, tossed into bilge juice. I have no dought that one video camera focused on one boat would put an end to the false claims. They are not going to handel fish in a delicate manner when their price of 60cents Lb gives them little incentive to do so. What are they doing to the fish that they are not selling as wild #1 muckleshoot salmon for their new program. The fish they sell under the first ave south bridge go for $2.00Lb. For that price they really must care for these fish?
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#211238 - 09/16/03 11:51 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
micropterus101 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 802
Loc: Port Orchard
Great now skokomish will market there special strain of "WILD SALMON" and the suquamish Will market there special strain of "WILD SALMON" along with the rest of the tribes. Its just a feeble attemp to get more money from there catch.

Its actually a good sign, there making all the big bucks at the casinos and if they cant get better prices for the salmon maybe they will quit!

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#211239 - 09/16/03 11:54 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 166
Loc: Eye-Of-The-Sun
The Keta creek hatchery is actually West of the "new" bridge (It's Whitney bridge FYI).

About a half mile west of Whitney bridge is a road to the north that goes right to the hatchery (212th AVE SE), about a quarter mile, take a right behind behind the fire station, viola' there it is.
They must also have Silvers coming from/to Icy creek and Palmer. The Silvers can be found (At least I and one other guy have found them) much (way!) higher than Keta creek and Whitney bridge...
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#211240 - 09/17/03 12:01 AM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 166
Loc: Eye-Of-The-Sun
Micro-
You made a good point, but maybe missed something. If all the tribes have their 'own' brand of salmon, pretty soon people will realize they are just buying salmon, and it wont be such a big deal any more....
"Saturated marketing" = consumer indifference. First it was Copper River, now Duwamish Dilver!(my slang for silvers/coho)
Either way some of em escape for me to catch, maybe.
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#211241 - 09/17/03 12:07 AM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
micropterus101 Offline
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Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 802
Loc: Port Orchard
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Originally posted by Phreak:
Micro-
You made a good point, but maybe missed something. If all the tribes have their 'own' brand of salmon, pretty soon people will realize they are just buying salmon, and it wont be such a big deal any more....
"Saturated marketing" = consumer indifference. First it was Copper River, now Duwamish Dilver!(my slang for silvers/coho)
Either way some of em escape for me to catch, maybe.
Exactly Phreak! the lost interest will result in lower prices again and hopefully make netting salmon not worth there time.
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#211242 - 09/17/03 10:32 AM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 1104
Loc: brownsville wa.
Reminds me of a trip to anthony's at fishermens terminal.Me and a bunch of friends were watching a game in the bar getting snockered.My girlfriend wanted some oysters on the half shell and went up to the bar to order some.She called back down and asked what kind should she get.I looked up at her and frowned ,what kind?I got up to the oyster bar to find they had Quilicene river oysters, Dosewallips river oysters,Hamma Hamma river oysters, Skokomish river oysters!I found this marketting ploy so funny I accidently sprayed the the guy working behind the bar with a mouthfull of crown royal.Yay we all got kicked out. laugh beathead

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#211243 - 09/17/03 11:03 AM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Quote:
Originally posted by ltlCLEO:
Quilicene river oysters
Mmmm... Nothing like snagger turds on the half shell...

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#211244 - 09/17/03 01:12 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Busta-Busta Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 166
Loc: Eye-Of-The-Sun
Maybe the Tribe (Muckleshoot) can start up an Elliot Bay or Duwamish oyster "brand"!
Can you you say 'Heavy metals on the half shell ' ?
I can taste the mercury and lead already !!
Don't forget the subtle flavor of PCB's and other mystery ingredients supplied by Boeing over the years....
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#211245 - 09/17/03 02:16 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
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Registered: 09/08/02
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Loc: des moines
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#211247 - 09/17/03 03:03 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
micropterus101 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 802
Loc: Port Orchard
If they dont fish or know somebody that fishes they should be buying farm raised salmon. I am for a boycott on all netted salmon. I do not fall for the propaganda put out by the commercials about farm raised salmon. A few years ago a bunch of atlantics got out of the net pens, they tasted really good. Another thing is that out of 176 fish I snagged they were all femmale. (It was legal to snag them because they were a non native species and the state wanted them gone).

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#211248 - 09/17/03 03:14 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
I think the fact that tribal netters are netting the Green Sunday afternoon through Friday afternoon does not leave a whole lot of oppurtunity for us sporties. What happened to 50/50? We only have a shot two days a week. That, to me, is BS. I would like to see the netters trim their netting schedule to three or four days a week.
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#211250 - 09/17/03 03:44 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
BERKLEY BOY75 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
5 days a week for how long? does anyone know that question? thats gonna suck, its not like they get any big ones up river anymore...

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#211251 - 09/17/03 04:04 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
We should close all hatcheries then the netters will get half of nothing and the sporties will get half of nothing.

And, yes, the sporties should be selfish because we are limited to two fish per person per day as if we are going to wipe out a run of fish with our rods and reels.

The general voting public probably does not fish and do not realize what happens to a river when the nets are strewn across capturing everything swimming by.

If there weren't nets there would not be an ESA.
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#211252 - 09/17/03 05:07 PM Re: Muckleshoot salmon sales...
ROCK Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 478
Loc: Between 2 Mountains
Just to throw another log on the FIRE ,EACH MUCK FAMILY IS ALLOWED 7 NETS rolleyes do ya think that's enough? NO wait ,and in those nets are at least 150 fish each time they pull them .O ya they pull them 4 times a night you do the math x5 days a week!!!! beathead
This info comes from a Muck told to my very own face.Thought I would pass it on.
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