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#214453 - 10/11/03 08:52 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
starcraft tom Offline
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first off i would like to say Plunker that was good.

Now to rush, The pain medication may have been what cost him his hearing. I hate to see him in this spot but he is doing the right thing by going in to rehab and not trying to hid it by going on "vacation" the way most in hollywood does.

Also rush said that he would take what ever punsiment comes his way. I see no Hypocrisy on his part. Everything he said about drugs is true and by going public he is putting himself in the light of day not hiddin in a rehab in mexico. ( I hear there is good fishing in mexico). look at what he said about drugs and what may happen to his life becouse of them.

Many people I know have be addicted and lost everything. Some that stop and say "hey i have a problem" go on to be productive normal people like everyone else. I have never done drugs and do not allow drugs around me. but we all know a freind or family member who has liked his pain medication a little two much.

What happened to rush is not like a addict that has nothing wrong with them but sticks heron in their veins or rolles a joint or downs a fifth of gin (my grandfathers favorite ). His doctor should have made sure this did not happen and if he thought rush was going down that road he should have done more to help him sooner.

oh by the way rush was never and is not now (last i heard ) beening investgated for any thing. His name came up in a investgation. I do not know but would be willing to quess that it was by some one tring to make a deal with the cops.
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#214454 - 10/11/03 10:40 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
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I watched Rush only one time years ago...he held up a picture of a young Chelsea Clinton and made jokes about how ugly she is.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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#214455 - 10/11/03 10:51 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Dave Vedder Offline
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Stlhead has it right. Spout hate - reap pain. Coundn't hapen to a better target. More and more I beleive in what comes aroung goes around. He earned this.
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#214456 - 10/12/03 11:26 AM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Dave Vedder Offline
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Grandpa: That was vile, mean spirited and disgusting. You should be ashamed!!!

How would you feel if some low life made such disgusting comments about your grandchildren?

Moderator. I suspect you will want to pull Grandpa's post, but please leave it for awhile so everyone can see what he is all about. I have absolutly no respect for someone who would say such at completely filthy thing about anyone. Are you Rush supporters proud of grandpa? You can have him.
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#214457 - 10/12/03 11:35 AM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
eddie Offline
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Grandpa, playing for a reaction is one thing, I think you crossed the line. confused
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#214458 - 10/12/03 11:59 AM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Pmartin Offline
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Surecatch,

He earned being addicted? He earned loosing his hearing?? Because of what he spouts makes money? Don't see how that earned him anything? Sounds like you are doing the same, wishing hurt and pain on someone because of their opinion?

Tossin stones? Guess you are dictating what should be moderated now? So, if someone is a Rush Supporter that means they agree with what Grandpa said?? You make me laugh&#8230; Either for or against right? Must be a heard mentality.. rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

BTW. Chelsea sure is homely but does have a set of DSL's, isn't she 24yo now??

Side note&#8230;I have listen to Rush maybe twice in my life, both times I had a headache within 5 min. His voice was very annoying. Never really thought one way or another about him cause I never listened long enough to form an opinion. I wish him well on his drug treatment. Having seen an in-law go/going through the same addiction due to many back and neck surgeries (that nearly cost her her life) I know that he has a tough road ahead. That sure as he11 doesn't make me a supporter or a hater.

Could you imagine a world without the Bush's or Limbaugh's? What would all you driberals have to whine about then??
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#214459 - 10/12/03 11:59 AM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Skywalker Offline
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grandpa,imho that's the the most hateful thing you've ever posted, and that's saying quite a bit.

It's one thing to continually trash a political target, it's another entirely to gut his kids.

Tell me, do you plan on teaching this kind of hate to your grandkids?

Take a look at Jerry's tagline and answer it honestly.

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#214460 - 10/12/03 12:11 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
cohofshr Offline
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I thought this was a fishing forum.............
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#214461 - 10/12/03 12:45 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Doug P Offline
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Grandpa, as a man with daughters I find it hard to believe you would post something like that! If this was another attempt at humor, you best stay with your politics, thats always good for a laugh...........

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#214462 - 10/12/03 12:56 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
stlhead Offline
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It is a fishing forum....see all the trolling going on?
Didn't you witness Grandpa bite on that barbed treble hook?
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#214463 - 10/12/03 01:00 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Dave Vedder Offline
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P Martin:

What I was saying is that he would have had absolutely no compassion for any liberal who got addicted on pain killers. Can you imagine what he would be saying if Ted Kennedy were found to be addicted? He has constantly made divisive, hurtful comments - such as those about Chelsea bieng homely. (That's only one example of many.)

If you have only listened occassionally, perhaps you don't know what a hate monger he has been.

He is the one who said all drug addicts should be jailed. Now he asks for the compassion he was never willing to give others.

I hope this will make him a better man and may teach him some compassion. But its constant hateful messages such as his that reinforce the thinking of guys like Grandpa.

Yes, I think he deserves what he got. He willingly broke the law, took drugs that were known to cause hearing damage and at the same time preaches about the evils of drug abuse. I know of no better definition of hypocrite.

I will say that I admire his willingless to admit his problem. However, it might have been more beleivable had he done it before he was outed.
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#214465 - 10/12/03 01:19 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Pmartin Offline
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SC:

You are correct that I did not know about his rantings on drugs. I apologize for that. It just seems that people are complaining about his being vicious and yet they are doing the exact same thing.. I.E. couldn't happen to a better person.

I could pretty much see this going either way though. Doesn't seem to matter which party has done what. Either would and do pounce on any dirt that they can come up with on the other side.


Time to watch some NFL... beer
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#214467 - 10/12/03 02:19 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
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So I deleted my post....Over the line...Funny though how an assault on an icon brings out the cries from the glass house gang.
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#214468 - 10/12/03 02:42 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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P Martin: You are right. Every one is too eager to attack the other side. And we all can be hypo rites. It seems to be a part of the human condition. Let's watch football. Or better yet, do tackle maintenance.

Grandpa: You still don't get it, do you? It's not that you attacked what you perceive to be an icon. It's that you showed no class, were simply tactless, mean spirted and amazingly insensitive. I would have been equally as offended if you had said the same about Rush, Bush or any of your icons. Perhaps its just a poor idea to accuse your enemies of incest?

If I were a member of PSA I would ask you to stop listing your affiliation at the end of your posts. Surely posts such as the one you deleted are an embarrassment to them.
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#214469 - 10/12/03 03:09 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Hoghunter Offline
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Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 462
I don't normally respond to NFR posts but this one hits on my turf. I run a rehab program and have done so for 26 years. Based on what I've read about the Rush incident my deduction would be that this will most likely not be the end of the line for him using pain medication unless he has the hammer of the law hanging over his head. I have seen too many addicts come and go. 99% of the time they don't seek recovery until they have no where else to go and are knocking on death's door. Another problem is that the more money and more powerful they are the harder it is for them to stop. I'm sure the only reason he's heading for rehab now is because he knows the broke the law either purchasing pain killers on the street or illegally over the counter in a pharmacy. Either way he's trying to gain sympathy from the cops. That's obvious by the fact that his lawyer has already met with detectives on Friday. Oxycontin is one of the worst to get addicted to and based on the length and severity of his use, I can tell you that he has a long hard road ahead of him and the odds of staying clean aren't in his favor. Doesn't make any difference what your political affiliation is when it comes to drugs and alcohol addiction it's all the same. Your life eventually becomes hell and so does the lives of those who love you.

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#214470 - 10/12/03 03:29 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
sinker Offline
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Registered: 03/12/01
Posts: 434
Loc: Puyallup, WA
I agree that he'll be back in rehab again.
Most addicts can only throw that monkey off they're back when they've truly hit bottom. Where his bottom at remains to be seen. Some people it's losing their wife and kids and some people it's death.
I never have cared for the guy. I used to listen to him years and years ago. I finally got tired of him going on and on about how he was right again. All he could ever talk about is how he was right about something.
When this first broke out in the media I was hoping this would be the end of the hypocrite. But after thinking about it all of his sheep followers are to dumb and blind to quit listening to him. They'll just continue to listen to the hypocrite.
Just for the sake of entertainment I like Leykis alot more.

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#214471 - 10/12/03 03:37 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Doug P Offline
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Registered: 10/07/02
Posts: 212
Loc: Redmond
Good job Grandpa, too bad your true character had to come out. Please stay away from the kids in your efforts to educate them on fishing.

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#214472 - 10/12/03 04:57 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
Skywalker Offline
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Registered: 03/10/01
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Loc: Snohomish, WA, USA
"So I deleted my post....Over the line...Funny though how an assault on an icon brings out the cries from the glass house gang."

Can't you just leave it at "over the line", instead of implying people are upset because they view Clinton as an "icon"?

I guess it figures, though. The Scandinavian can't avoid a Red Herring to save his soul. rolleyes

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#214473 - 10/12/03 05:07 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
eddie Offline
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Skywalker, I thought he was referring to Limbaugh as the icon. I guess it could go both ways.
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#214475 - 10/12/03 07:15 PM Re: NFR - Two quotes from Limbaugh...
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I laugh....a manly laugh, for manly men such as we (name the moveie, win a prize)
Would it be "Robin Hood... Men in Tights" perhaps?

...Ok, what did I win! laugh laugh
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