#215551 - 10/18/03 12:14 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
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those are not spawned out fish. the spawned out fish do not have the energy to swim up anything in a flood, they get washed up into the trees. if its on the road it is most likely not spawned out. the chums you see on file footage are not spawned out either, they just look like that. why is it not ok to snag but nobody cares that these guys are taking spawning fish out of the river system, and unlike many snaggers, they dont even have a license. why is that ok with most board members?
its like trying to make luv2snags arguement for him. luv2snag is definately an arse but he may well have a big point about hypocrisy. who cares about snagging when half of this board probably votes/voted for pro-flood politicians like slade gorton.
I hate snaggers and tell them that but i bet for every fish that dies from being snagged there are 200 fish killed in these man made floods
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#215552 - 10/18/03 12:28 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Anonymous
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If that guy is that hard up that he has to eat an old egg-leaking boot like that... let him have his fish. We are talking about one fish that was probably washed of the reds and will end up in someones front yard when the water recedes. Caviar anyone? One of the beauties of mother nature is that the not all of the fish return at the same time. For every fish that is killed in the flood there is another still in the salt that hasn't started up the river yet.
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#215553 - 10/18/03 12:36 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
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well, the way i see it, is he can use the fish for his own use and eat from it, by all means, even if it was dark, maybe he didnt care, that fish might jus end up rotting somewhere in a field or side of the road, and plus its most likely a hatchery surplus, jus like the 41,000 that are up in soos creek (pry more with the rain) there jus gonna sit there till there dark, and then some will get spawned and the others to waist away, when i see they could perfectly well give alot of them surplus coho away, seeing my tax dollars and everyone elses pays for them, to jus sit there and rot..
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#215554 - 10/18/03 12:51 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 324
Loc: olympia
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i don't think it's ok....just like snaggin'....
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#215555 - 10/18/03 01:09 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2688
Loc: Yelmish
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i don't have a problem with it. can YOU catch a fish with your bare hands? i doubt it, i sure can't do it. i really don't think these guys have that big of an impact, although it does bug me that they are breaking the law
maybe adding something in the regs about catching salmon with your bare hands would take away a few of those desperate snaggers; they could just take the ripe ones out of the ditch and leave
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#215557 - 10/18/03 01:40 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Anonymous
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Originally posted by Chum Man: can YOU catch a fish with your bare hands? when I was about 15 I caught and released a 5lb sucker in roosevelt lake with my hands... Wind was blowing all day and the water was pretty cloudy. In front of our camp was a bit of a mud flat. As I was looking out across the water here was this fish tailing on the flat, similar to bonefish when they are rooting around on the bottom with there tails out of the water. I quietly waded up to the fish from behind. With my hands in the water, one near his head and one near his tail, I made a quick grab and just missed him. He darn near drowned me with the spray coming off is tail as he darted off. I didn't take long and he was back to rooting in the mud. So I slowly creeped up behind him again. This time he wasn't so lucky. With one hand around his tail and one behind his pectoral fins, I snatched him out of the water, to the amazement of my mom and dad and half of the campground... Within a few minutes after I let him go, he was rooting in the mud again. Damn, I hear sirens... who called the fish cops on me...
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#215558 - 10/18/03 02:10 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Spawner
Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
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Originally posted by BERKLEY BOY75: when i see they could perfectly well give alot of them surplus coho away, seeing my tax dollars and everyone elses pays for them, to jus sit there and rot.. I'd rather see them rot in the stream. Like I have said before, dead, rotting salmon are good for a stream. They provide food for trout, smolts, insect larva, nymphs, and other animals. Inturn, trout and smolts feed on the insects and nymphs. With fewer salmon returning to our rivers then there was historicly, we need every dead rotting salmon that we can get.
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#215559 - 10/18/03 02:35 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Anonymous
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salmon given away as suplus means less salmon supplied by commercial interests...
I give many of my fish away so people dont have to go out and buy them.
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#215560 - 10/18/03 02:48 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Anonymous
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salmon given away as suplus means less salmon supplied by commercial interests...
I give many of my fish away so people dont have to go out and buy them.
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#215561 - 10/18/03 05:47 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Spawner
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
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there are gonna be tons of rotting carcasses, the chum are coming and if you dont think that river, (the green) doesnt get alot of them, then go up to flaming geyser in nov.. im sure them coho could be of better use without going to the bugs.. i do know that salmon smolts do eat the dead fish, bugs and what not, but since most of the fish in the green are hatchery, and few wild fish, it dont make sense to have all the surplus coho..there will be plenty for the wild fish when the chums are done..
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#215562 - 10/20/03 03:18 PM
Re: Taking Salmon On The Road on the Skok.
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 09/28/00
Posts: 238
Loc: Kapowsin, Wa
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I think somewhere in the regs I read that it's OK to catch and retain any salmon heading southbound on the highway, but all northbound fish must be released. I think the rationale was to protect all species heading north to spawn. Don't quote me on that.
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