Sounds more like snagging to me. Flossing involves the line sweeping through the river parallel to the bottom and vertical to the bank.
Letting it set where you can see the fish or waiting for a line bump then setting the hook is snagging.

Ok leys call it snagging but its still hard to make a case out of a leagal lure in the fishs mouth.....Its something to see and the guys that do it do it very well....DJ

Snagging: Attempting to take fish with a hook and line in such a way that the fish does not voluntarily take the hook(s) in its mouth.

At what point during flossing does the fish voluntarily take the hook?

M101, what's up bud? IMO they are the same. What's the difference between the line sweeping down on a moving fish and a moving fish running into a stationary line. They are both bumping into the line with their mouth and getting hooked. The Blue Creek (or fill in any river w/good hatchery run) guys and the Samish guys are doing the same thing. Before the jig craze it used to be a glob of eggs w/or without weight at the Samish for me. I'm sure lots of them kings were biters, but I'm also sure many were lined. It's the same w/ that jig sitting in the mud. When a king hits your line, it sure feels like it's attacking the [Bleeeeep!] out off your lure. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. But until we can figure out how to interview a salmon/steelhead about to be clubbed whether or not it voluntarily struck the lure/bait then I say let's assume it did.

Cupo

If I am not mistaken, seems to me that a lot of people in Lake Washington "troll" with just a little red bare small hook and catch lots of fish!

Can you tell us what regulation or law says that you can't let your line swing around into a fish's mouth?


Cowlitzfisherman

Those sockeye are being flossed? By trollers?

Do you read what you post?

Well Dan
Isn't the line also moving? Maybe the fish are just schooled up and happen to be running into the lines with their mouths open! Who really knows, but the fish!

I knew you couldn't resist the taste of the bait!

Cowlitzfisherman

Well, that WAS a mighty irresistable bait.

So, I guess the trick is to make sure your boat travels perpendicular to the fish, huh? :p

Don't forget the "Ultra-Whip" Hotspot flasher with "Floss-o-matic" action, and the 15 foot leader either!

CFM

You are using your circular logic again. :p

OK CFM what does 2+2 =

I say 4

Somehow I bet you will come up with 6 or any other conclusion then 4.

Note: This is not a flame I just think you get enjoyment out of debating the un debatable.

See how this simple thing got us thinking?

But I still can not comprehend the logic of hooking a fish in the eye ball is legal and hooking a fish from the lip inward is illegal.

I am not saying that the flossing technique produce this type of hookup.
I am just trying to understand our member's logic.

Thanks

Lead thrower

You can look at flossing like this:
Or, if you want to, you can go "full circle" and you can look at flossing something like this:

It's OK to fool fish by using scents; it's OK to full fish by using carbon mono line; it's OK to fool fish by feeding them an unreal colored chunk of eggs; it's OK to piss off fish with plugs, lures, jigs; Or you could look at it like shooting ducks over unreal decoys; or using a call to call ducks in when you are not a real duck; or putting camouflage on to hide when you are hunting; or fishing on land that no one else has legal access to fish on; or fish from a boat in holes that can not be reached by foot; or using a lure that no one else has; or using "electronic" fish finding devices to find or locate fish; but somehow it's not "sporting" or legal to sneak your line down into a fishes mouth when he's not ready to let you do it!

You guys got to get a life!


And I am just getting warmed up on how some of you can add 2+2 and come up with a -3!

If this subject was not "debatable" in law, it would already be a rule change in the new WDFW rule change proposals


Cowlitzfisherman

"I knew you couldn't resist the taste of the bait!"

You are the master,

Are you sure someone took the bait...or were they flossed?

CFM,
How is anyone suppose to argue with that kind of mentality?

Stop making sense and you will get a good debate.

CFM... You never cease to amaze me

I swear I had a calculus professor prove that 2+2 did equal 3!

I say CFM was flossed..... If he had "taken the bait", he would have commented a lot sooner rather than swimming around in the hole so long till that long leader got him...... Yeah, he was flossed....

MC

I'd call that d a m n close to a checkmate CFM!

VERY GOOD JOB!

NO doubt in my mind YOU are the man!

herm

(notice when you "spool" em they change the subject or make jokes?)

CFM

I was referring to your below post, don't care about the other stuff and flossing doesn't compare to trolling with bare hooks is what I was getting at.

Your correct there may be no law but the two are not comparable.

So, everyone who pushes ethics or a liberal is a "homo"?

What if you are a homo already, Iron head? Any direct action you'd like to take then. OR would you just wait until their back was turned?

Surprised the moderatorss allow this hate-filled crap here. You can make strong arguments without being a bigot.