Todd: Great stories about your dog Guinness. Cool name, too, it brings back fond memories of five days I spent in Ireland.

Mooch: Great avatar! And a nice pic of the dog and fish. That dog might have a little cattle dog blood in it's heritage.

Great story Todd. Reminded me of our old lab "Grizz". Was an awesome fishing dog. Would simply sit and wait for us on the bank while we fished. Never moved until we were getting ready to leave. Then, we'd let him hit the water if, and ONLY if there were noone else around, or if guys said ok. If too many people, we'd take him around a bend or two to let him have his fun (actually scared some fish into slots for guys lol). Was a sad day for us when his health problems got so bad that we had to put him down (he was 15 at the time). Same problems and a couple more. Miss him dearly.

My Lab now is a spazz. He's a wonderful boat dog. Simply lays down in bow or on floor while we fish. But I would NEVER EVER take him with me fishing the bank. He's a people dog (anyone who attended my jig tying clinic would attest to that). So I know better not to take him bank fishing with me. But in the boat, he's an angel. Actually on the bank he is too, but he wants to be pet and played with. I keep him under wraps (as in, in the car), or on a leash if on the bank if I'm just walking down to check out a river.

I'm pretty sure I know exactly the dog Jacob is talking about. Runs up barking at you like you're breaking into his house and follows after you walk past him barking like mad... I think I might calmly walk up nice and close to the owner and then start viciously barking and growling at the top of my lungs just for fun.

Hi All

I've been lucky enough to have had 2 GREAT Irish Setters. One is still with me and he is not at the point where I would take him fishing. Would love to but I understand that it would not work. He loves to visit to much.

My 1st on the other hand was great to take. I took him on a number of trips on the Sky, Hoh and Quillayute. He understood what fishing was all about and would get so pumped when I hooked/played a fish. On the Hoh he was funny. At the bottom/past Barlow's he would walk into the water and sniff every fisherman, moving up the line until he was finished. Then he would just go and lay down. I always figured he was looking for people who messed with him in his past life.

The one thing that bothers me are the people who bring there dogs/kids to places like the Samish where you have lots of people casting and hooks. poles etc laying around. One day Octoberr we had to constantly tell this kid (7 or sod) to not walk in back of us. He came so close to getting hooked in the head many times. Dad didn't care. He was up 150 fishing and bull****ting.

Have a Great Day

Been lurking on the board for several weeks (this is my first post), and wanted to chime in on this topic.

A friend and I were fishing downriver from my house last Sunday and ran into much the same situation as Mr. Gray did.

I was on the bank, he was in the river just a few feet out and a matched pair of what I believe were pit bulls (brindle colored) came towards us snarling and snapping. Neither of us being armed, I quickly dug my fillet knife out of my pack and slipped it into my back pocket, and fortunately both dogs stopped about 30 yds. away.

Seems most of the folks in our neighborhood let their dogs run free. Most times they are friendly and I'm glad to see them. On occasion one gets down on the river and decides to roll in the dead salmon (currently Chum's) and what a stink! Of course, it is usually one of the friendly labs that like to bounce right up to you to get petted..:-(

Seems like a great group of folks here, and I have learned "tons" just reading through all the back posts.

To whover built this site: THANK YOU!

Mike B

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/features/readerscast/rc131.html Here is a link that might help some of you to understand what I am talking about, Mooch not only is it not fair to the other fisherman what that guy on the bogey was doing But it is also illegal .

Mooch,

That day on the Bogey was me with the dog, big Alaskan Malmute. But that was not me catching all those fish, and that was my girlfreind who reeled in a very nice fish that the old man of the day handed off. That old man was petting my dog and you are right about dog scent being a problem, in my experience I dont think that it is. This coming from having that same exact dog for seven years and since it was 10 months old it has been on the river, me catching fish the while. But my buddies have dogs and in no way would I ever want to see them on the river bank. The only thing to say is it is definetly the owners fault, for making a wrong judgement and even bringing their poorly trained dog. Oh yeah did I mention that SID was the best dog ever, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.

hi todd,
thought I'd pass on a tip for your dog.

Glucosamine

my old lab had such bad hips I was ready put him down when my mouther-in-law gave us a bottle, We already had new puppies for the kids. started him on the pills and he stopped limping in two days. got so he would refuse to go out the door at night if he didn't get his pill(he took it stright up no food to help it down)
he lasted anouther two years before he started limping real bad.

something to try.
eric

Some people have no respect for others period.It doesn't matter whether its dogs on the river, screaming kids in a restaurant,driving down the freeway erratically,littering-dumping garbage or whatever scenario you can come up with they are self centered and could care less about anyone else around them.

Yes I do own dogs but I never put anyone in a position to deal with them unless they choose to.

Wow, hate for my first post to be a rant, but this is a big issue for me! I just went fishing and brought the dog. She is not animal friendly. I am 200% careful with her to avoid other dog owners. But, why do people think it's ok to let their dogs loose because their dogs may be friendly? There is a Washington State leash law and I am sick of dealing with strange dogs running up to my car to sniff my dog when she is obviously not friendly. It's not the dogs fault, it's the owners for not being a good owner. We waited for some guy to launch his boat after telling him we would wait because of his dog (we were there first). He took his darn sweet time then decided to use the lavs while his dog cornered us. Cute, not! I keep my dog away from otheres, on a leash and get irritated by fluffy dog owners that think their dogs are soo cute that everyone eants them to run up to them. My dog is Amstaff (Pit cousin) . For all of you that get nervous around them, they love people more than anything and usually just "rush" you in excitement. I've been rushed by two strange pits also and it is an uneasy experience. But, the Cocker Spaniel will be more likely to bite you than my dog. Don't hate them becvause they are physically superior to most dogs, they are just dogs. It's the training that changes them. Anyhow, leash your dogs please! Or don't bring them if you can't handle them. There's many days my dog doesn't get to go as I don't know if I have to worry about other dogs running loose. She was attacked by 2 loose Mastiffs (140lb and 180lb) and I have never seen horror like that and am glad she took them down and they didn't come after me after charging us. If it was the other way around and she had attacked a poodle, she would have been put down. Even if that dog was offleash. So, I have no sympathy for people that let their dogs loose in public areas!

i woud never bring my dog fishing unless i was going somewhere that i knew that i was the only person and would probably be the only person all day. i dont let dogs in my boat cuz i dont want the distraction or the chance of broken rods. many dogs are better behaved than many fishermen but i would personally not trust my dog enough to be well behaved or many of the other fishermen. sometimes she will sit and protect the truck but that is the closest she gets to the water.

as far as the phermone thing... i tied a pink and white jig with all of the white being malmute undercoat and caught fish on it without washing the fur first. by the way, malmute undercoat works better that yarn for getting caught in fish teeth.

twice now in the last six months someone has shown up with a hound. last fall in eliot bay that cur bayed for about ten hours straight litterally without stop. no matter where they were or i was you could hear that dog like you were in their boat. does anyone remember this day back in about late august or early sept?? that just seemed so far over the line of bad dog ownership.

Rattlefish,

Thanks for the heads up...Guinness is already on both Glucosamine and MSM...it really makes a difference for him.

Fish on...

Todd.

OK, the dogs can't defend themselves on this board! So let's give them a chance, and let's hear some of the great stories out there where our dogs have truly been mans best friend!

If only they could talk about there maters!.....what a thread that would make

Who's going to go first?

Cowlitzfisherman

Rather a dog than a loud mouth fat woman fresh out of the trailer.
Don't have a problem with women, just this one.

Seaweed,
I suppose this should go to a different thread but here goes anyway.
Thanks for the very interesting article which I have no interest in disputing. However, the point was: does I-serene or dog-pit affect your ability to catch brats? I'll stick with my original assertion, which I believe is supported by your article, that it does not. No doubt I've personally used every excuse known to steelheadom as to why I got skunked, but I'd be the first to admit that dog odor was one of the lamest. I'm still working on a excuse that will stick, so let me know if you come up with one better.

As far as the "other fisher" is concerned, fairness may be a subjective thing but the legality issue is something different. Perhaps you can explain how he was fishing illegally. I read the regs again and it does not seem to addresss this situation directly.

It may not say it in the regs but the guy that "hooks" the fish is the 1 who caught it, doesn't matter if he hands it off. I watched a gamie nail a guy at BC a few years ago for this.

I know the answer to this one, ah!! because the dog can't drive himself?

AKKings / Seaweedsam

You said;

Is it your belief that a person can not hook a fish and hand them off to another fisherman with out punching "his card" each time he hooks a fish?

Do you think that just becuase a person "hooks" a fish, that the fish legally belongs to the person who "hooked" the fish?

Is that what you guys are saying?

Cowlitzfisherman

cause the dog wants to get away from the wife for a while also

CFM-Mooch, what I saw at BC probably 10-12 yrs. ago was a 2 guys together, 1 was catching and 1 was not, first guy lands a steelhead, proceeds to hand 2 to his buddy then lands a 4th, while they were cleaning the fish another guy who had been fishing near by (gamie) asks for their licenses, then proceeds to tell the guy who hooked 4 fish that he is being ticketed for 2 fish over his limit, and gave him a 5 minute lecture. I don't know what the final outcome was I'm just telling ya what I saw.