#225434 - 12/30/03 11:33 AM
Single biggest mistake....
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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Loc: Olypen
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What do you think is the single biggest mistake that a beginner makes in the quest to catch that first steelhead? I'm kind of prone to thinking it's "blind casting"....just aimlessly tossing the offering hour after hour. I know there have been times when I've fallen into that mental state. It doesn't happen often, but occasionally when the fishing is slow, I'll lose my concentration and just drone it. What a waste of time that is! Sometimes I need to kick myself in the butt and change lures, or holes, or both....got to stay dialed in! What single piece of advice can be offered to help a beginner?
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#225435 - 12/30/03 11:48 AM
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Carcass
Registered: 03/08/99
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Looking back on my beginning days, my single biggest mistake was driving all over the place trying to find fish. I would have been much better off picking a very few rivers and fishing them under all conditions. That is my best advice - learn a good river (check the catch statistics - that's a good place to start), and fish it under a variety of conditions. This will surely pay off.
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#225437 - 12/30/03 11:53 AM
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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I'm not sure I can narrow it down to just one. I have done them all. Here are my top five:
1. Constantly changing rivers to follow the hot fish reports.
2. Using too heavy line and too large baits and lures. (Many beginners think the larger the lure the better chance a fish will see and eat it.)
3. Not knowing how to read water.
4. Not knowing how to detect a bite.
5. As fun5 said losing concentration. You need to expect a fish with every cast. That can be hard to maintain on cast number 2,368.
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#225440 - 12/30/03 02:09 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/03/00
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My # 1 problem: Expecting to catch fish.
I find I enjoy myself much more just relaxing, enjoying the company of a good friend or two and taking in the scenery on a local river. If we catch fish, all the better.
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#225441 - 12/30/03 02:36 PM
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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I would definitely say to a newbie that it's not a bad idea to hone your skills at a hatchery meat hole, like spots on the Cowlitz, Lewis, or Skykomish.
Once you know how to cast well, and how to detect strikes, now you have to go out and actually learn the real art of steelheading, which is impossible in the meat holes. I have been acquainted with lots of fishermen who equate catching a lot of fish in those spots with being a good steelheader, which is only true so long as they stay in those meat holes. Give them a river that requires some skills and their productivity drops markedly.
Reading water, tailoring gear to the specifics of the water you are fishing, finding your own spots, etc., etc. Most have been listed above.
Here's one that wasn't mentioned yet. While I agree with Dave's point about lighter line and lures, that doesn't mean use six pound test when there is a full river with 12" of visibility.
I find light line to be most important in attractively presenting the bait, not necessarily because steelhead are leader shy. I only use 8# leaders if the water is over 30" or so of vis, other than that I stick with ten, even bumping up to twelve if the water is really up.
When I'm fishing unlimited vis and small baits, I find the lighter line to be more important for properly delivering a smaller bait, rather than trying to make my leader invisible.
Fish on...
Todd.
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#225442 - 12/30/03 03:15 PM
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 1604
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
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I'll add to Dave V's list:
Trying to catch steelhead on the same gear/bait/technique as you do for salmon. Steelhead and salmon are completely different. Don't use the same stuff.
Trying too many different techniques. Stick to one method (ok, maybe two) - float/jig, spoons, spinners, drifting eggs, or plugs, etc; develop some confidence, and stick with it. My two favorites techniques for winter steelhead are float/jig and spinners.
This has already been said, but the biggest beginner mistake: fishing the wrong areas. Learn to read the water and recognize holding areas. If you're fishing the right spots, sometimes you can hook a steelhead even if you've done everything else wrong.
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#225443 - 12/30/03 03:50 PM
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Parr
Registered: 10/23/01
Posts: 44
Loc: Vancouver
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I always say one way to slightly make up for the inability to detect a strike is by having very sharp hooks. Sometimes you'll just get lucky and hook the fish even though you didn't know it was a fish.
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#225444 - 12/30/03 04:42 PM
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2010 SRC Champion!
Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 968
Loc: Paradise City!
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Originally posted by Kyle_A: My # 1 problem: Expecting to catch fish.
I find I enjoy myself much more just relaxing, enjoying the company of a good friend or two and taking in the scenery on a local river. If we catch fish, all the better. Great attitude, but I like being confident as well. Loose confidence, and it's just a little less rewarding. My suggestion is to fish with someone who is willing to teach, and be paitent. It helps If he/she is a relatively good angler to boot. And remember that bank crowds are there for a reason, if they don't bother you too much. Invest the time fishing, reading about it, or simply watching others fish and take note of what the successful folks are doing. Learning on the water is a never-ending process for me. And I still get taken to school. Good fishing.
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#225445 - 12/30/03 05:02 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Too much weight is the number one error I tend to see. You don't really need to be touching bottom at all. Too much weight and your stuff is jerking around un-naturally. Also, experiment with different weights on the same drift. Every time you change your weight, leader length, etc it's a whole new presentation. Also, too large of hooks. I mostly use 1/0 on low visibility and 1 on good visibility. Lastly, the size. Steelhead have very good eyes and can see the smallest of stuff and will readily gulp a small offering whereas a large offering can be a turn off. I should add that 9 out of ten will hit on the drift not at the end of the drift. Most newbies miss that fact.
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#225448 - 12/31/03 07:02 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 258
Loc: Amboy Wa
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The biggest most stupid thing that I ever did was....I never used to buy hooks...20-30 hooks would last me a year. Be walking a long the river bank,....eww..lookie..nice looking hook. Poke my finger, awe yes, nice and sharp (maybe if I got lucky the hook was sharp) rig up a new riggin and put that new not so sharp hook on there and flinger on out there. I don't know how many fish I lost do to not sharping my hooks. But I learned SHARPEN THEM HOOKS!!!! If you don't know how and are too shy to ask someone at the river bank,....theres lots of small fishing stores out there and guides that want to look good
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#225451 - 12/31/03 04:40 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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1. Putting on colgne before or during fishing. Beginners don't understand the importance of not having human scent. 2. Not fishing the right place at the right time. Need to know where to fish and learn it well like it has already been suggested here. 3. Bringing bananas! 4. Not knowing how to rig up properly. not having sharp hooks, or not knowing good knots, and not using effective methods. 5. Not covering the water and casting correctly and the right water. Not having polarized glasses and not being able to see fish and know where they hold. 6. Not switching it up with colors or different baits. 7. Not using enough weight or too much weight. 8. Trying to break off by using the rod! 9. Fishing too many hot spots with lots of people shoulder to shoulder. 10. Not going with somebody of better experience whether it is a guide or a fisherman that catches fish.
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#225452 - 12/31/03 04:51 PM
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Parr
Registered: 11/19/03
Posts: 53
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Slow Down!! Slow Down!! I used to race out of the house, race down the road, run down the trail and then start flogging as soon as I saw the river. This of course led to forgetting something at the house, getting a speeding ticket or just getting frustrated with the car in front of me, possibly falling down on the trail or scaring a fish out of the hole. It might be that I am a little older or that I fish much more than I ever did before but I definitely catch more fish and enjoy myself more now that I learned to "EASE ON INTO THINGS". I love to just sit back and watch what is going on around me before I even put my pole together.
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#225453 - 12/31/03 06:22 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/02/03
Posts: 622
Loc: Olympia
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Fogged: Right on, with age comes patience.
It's like those two bulls standing on that hill top that spotted that herd of cows a thousand feet below. Yea, you know the young spike wanted to run on down there and screw one whilst the proud old stag suggested that they should walk on down there and screw em all..........happy new year...
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