#236623 - 03/09/04 11:07 PM
Sauk River
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Any body notice the change? Some locals change the river!
WFDW Army Corps Snohomish County US FOREST Service NOAA
It's time to show your colors, and get the local guy!
Violations:
Wild and Scenic River Act Federal ESA listed fish Building and Critial area codes Hydraulic permint requirements And many more!
Lets put this on every TV and Radio station and news paper! This guy should be put away for YEARS!
Don't let this one die! Wild Steelhead are haveing a bad time already
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#236625 - 03/10/04 12:44 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Spawner
Registered: 12/05/02
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was that a recent bulldozer job? looks like the area that took a few boats last year, kid sauk posted a photo of it. cant beleive that someone would think that they could get away with that?
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#236626 - 03/10/04 01:11 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Anonymous
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Homer 2..
I don't know the Sauk well, but I don't live far from it either.
Can you tell me more accurately where that area is located? I'll be glad to run out there and take a few pics...
Mike
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#236627 - 03/10/04 01:12 AM
Re: Sauk River
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FishDoctor
Two weeks ago! I will be up there the next two days
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#236628 - 03/10/04 02:32 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Spawner
Registered: 04/01/00
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Loc: Skagit Valley
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Homer2Handed, Have you seen that with your own eyes? It looks like a side channel in the picture. That might be Kid Sauks new boat launch. Nothing like having a nice gentle chute to warm up your arms before hitting the main water. Not to worry! It's strictly legal!
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#236629 - 03/10/04 06:07 AM
Re: Sauk River
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/04/01
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Is it excavation or did it change from the floods?
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#236631 - 03/10/04 11:33 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Jerry,
If what you say is true (and I have absolutely no reason to doubt it) then are the Authorities preparing charges against the landowners?
Mike
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#236632 - 03/10/04 11:48 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Spawner
Registered: 04/01/00
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Just a stab in the dark here but...
Has anyone considered that the landowners are probably the Sauk-Suiattle Tribe?
Lots of accusations and inuendo flying about this excavation but very few facts are being presented. I would suggest getting ahold of the Darrington Ranger Station and asking them about the situation.
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#236633 - 03/10/04 02:27 PM
Re: Sauk River
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
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I floated the upper Sauk a couple of weeks ago and saw the berm in the picture. It is located near the Sauk Prairie. The farm in the background has lost a few feet of bank each of the last 3 or 4 years. When I floated it the mai river channel was still to the left in the photo and none of the main river area had been altered so any of the reds in that area shouldn't have been damaged. With the flow at around 4.5 there wasn't any water flowing down the "new" channel. I don't think that the land belongs to the tribe as this area is upriver a few miles from the res.
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#236634 - 03/10/04 02:31 PM
Re: Sauk River
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Plunker:
I'm not wanting to be argumentative, but can you give some clarification on your comment, below:
"Has anyone considered that the landowners are probably the Sauk-Suiattle Tribe?"
If it was the Sauk-Suiattle Tribe, and the damage to the redds was as Jerry Garcia has suggested, then would they (Tribes) have any justification for doing the damage they did?
If it was the Tribe, would/should/could the Federal Government have any legal recourse for the damage done to these fish stocks?
I don't give a rip who did the damge, if it has seriously damaged the potential recovery of these fish then some action must take place in response.
Mike
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#236635 - 03/10/04 02:52 PM
Re: Sauk River
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WDFW is taking the lead on the ivestigation!
It is 2 miles south of TRIBAL LAND!
I talk with WDFW and SCL today there taking to the air and taking more pictures.
What I've seen of it they drove across the river to do the work, and that what WDFW told me!
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#236636 - 03/10/04 04:44 PM
Re: Sauk River
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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The S-S Tribe is pretty unhappy about this situation, too.
Fish on...
Todd
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#236637 - 03/10/04 09:16 PM
Re: Sauk River
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ITS NOT THE S-S TRIBE!
It's up river of them!
The best way to see it, is to FLOAT IT!
It's all private land all around it!
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#236638 - 03/10/04 10:23 PM
Re: Sauk River
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I'm a freak'n CAKE
Registered: 05/17/01
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Loc: Almost on the beach
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Very interesting stuff here. I haven't heard anything about that up that way. Where is the whole story? Right there in my neck of the woods, but wasn't my bulldozer....mine's broke down I'll go up there and check it out, but it looks like it's upstream from my place. The floods really screwed things up on the Sauk. The upper float is screwed for a while that's for sure!
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#236639 - 03/10/04 11:21 PM
Re: Sauk River
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kid sauk,
2 river miles below Darrington bridge!
When I wrote this is was mad, I didn't do it justice.
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#236640 - 03/11/04 12:49 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Heres part of and E-mail I got yesterday!
" Investigations are currently being conducted by the enforcement branches of WDFW, Army Corps, and Snohomish County. WDFW is taking the lead on the investigation right now, since the primary damage was to state lands (i.e., the active river channel). I received a call today from the enforcement division of NOAA Fisheries, who will be looking into Endangered Species Act violation The Forest Service has also been involved due to violations under the Wild and Scenic Rivers Act. The excavation has violated county building and critical areas codes, state hydraulic permit requirements, federal dredging permit requirements, as well as federal ESA and Wildlife and Scenic River regulation. "
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#236641 - 03/11/04 12:55 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Anonymous
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I hope they nail his (the offenders) arse to the wall...
Sad part of it is, no matter what fines or penalty the idiots pay, it won't bring back those fish.
Crap.
Mike
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#236642 - 03/11/04 12:59 AM
Re: Sauk River
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Mike,
You got it!
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