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#238709 - 03/27/04 10:50 PM toughest stuff?
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Parr

Registered: 12/08/03
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Which wader material handles wear the best?

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#238710 - 03/27/04 11:13 PM Re: toughest stuff?
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Registered: 11/24/03
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The ultimate in tough and warmth is 5 mm neoprene. When I used to go winter steelheading in Syracuse NY, they were the best thing going for the bitterly cold conditions. Ditto for sitting in a cold boat or a duck blind on a chilly morning. The problem is when the sun comes out, or if you are doing a lot of hiking. You'll be swimming in your own sweat before long.

That's why I made the switch to breathables. My old StreamLine waist-high's basically only come out for razor clam digging. Otherwise, it's Simm's breathable boot-foot chest waders for me.
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#238711 - 03/28/04 12:06 AM Re: toughest stuff?
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Parr

Registered: 12/08/03
Posts: 42
FishNMD,
Thanks for the good info. I will be using them for spring, fall and winter. I don't use waders in the warmer months, but I guess some people do ;\) I will be using them for waterfowl, though. Looks like the bootfoot models are inherently more durable????

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#238712 - 03/28/04 12:32 AM Re: toughest stuff?
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 1295
Loc: Monroe,WA.
They will never win any awards for comfort, but I have my worn Royal brand rubber coated fabric boot waders since 1980, wearing the heels completely off and having to rebuild the heels and have yet to have a single leak in them.

I almost died when I paid $60 wholesale for them 23 years ago, but they are the toughtest waders I have ever owned.

If you are climbing through berry brambles and brush on a regular basis, these are the waders that will last a lifetime.

On a comfort level, I'd take a pair of breathable waders. I bought a pair of waist high breathable guide pants last year for a 60 mile canoe trip with multiple portages and lived in them for four days. They were perfect and will be my regular wading gear in the future except when I'm fishing some of my favorite berry bramble banked rivers.

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#238713 - 03/28/04 03:53 PM Re: toughest stuff?
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Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 182
Loc: Graham
Waterfowl hunting can be awfully tough on fishing waders. Depends on how and where you are hunting of course, but most of my waterfowling involves brush, blackberries, barbed wire and other obstacles that will eat up neoprenes or breathables in short order.Small holes are easy to patch, bigger ones are tougher, and I've had some that I could never get to seal up completely.

If all you do is sit in a boat or comfortable blind, neoprene will give you much needed warmth. Fishing waders would be fine.

If your putting your waders through abuse, unless you plan on buying stock in Aquaseal (they do make really BIG tubes!), I would get a different pair of waders for the waterfowling.

Cabelas/Herters/Bass Pro have a wide selection in their fall/waterfowl catalogs. The toughest models have "cordura" on the outside for abrasion resistance. They make them with and without neoprene, but the neoprene/cordura combination makes for a pretty stiff and heavy wader- not something I would want to hike a river bank in for long while fishing.

I have a pair of boot foot hunting waders from Cabelas called, appropriately "Brush Busters". I have used them and abused them for 5 years, and have been unable to puncture them, even on barbed wire! They are not neoprene lined, and on extra cold days I wish they were. The boots do have excellent insulation.

Something else to think about is the soles if you only get one pair of waders. If you wear felts on mud, grass, etc. it is like walking on slick snot; not pretty to have yor feet out from under you all the time. Lug soles are much better for most hunting situations. But lugs on slick river rock are just as worthless; that's why felts were invented. You could cure this by getting some stocking foot waders and get two pairs of boots, one with felts and one with lugs.

If you are only getting one pair, you will need to compromise, based on how much you plan to use them for hunting vs fishing. I do both a lot, and have never found a pair that I felt offers the best of both worlds.

I'd get a tough pair of boot foot hunting waders (they will last for years), and something else for fishing. In the long run you'll save $$. Heck, Gart has Hodgeman 3.5 mil neoprenes on sale for $39 bucks; you could replace them every few months at that price.

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#238714 - 03/28/04 06:32 PM Re: toughest stuff?
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Parr

Registered: 12/08/03
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Lots of my fishing will involve blackberries and brush. As I have no experience with neoprene or breathables, I am skeptical of how well they will deal with these things. I also wonder how much the floatation factor of neoprene will inhibit my wading ability (I often go in up to my waist). The rubberized ones I have now are too small to provide good mobility but I am impressed with their lightweight and durability (20 years of use and no leaks!). Thanks for the info

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#238715 - 03/28/04 08:21 PM Re: toughest stuff?
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Registered: 03/22/03
Posts: 860
Loc: Puyallup, WA
5mm neoprene is the toughest. 3mm is also tough and not quite as warm.
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