Bruce harvest fisheries made for the complete closure of the columbia river spring chinook fishery for 20 years. Harvest fisheries led to the closing of the Wind river summer steelhead run. Harvest fisheries caused a spring closure on nearly all the lower columbia tributaries march- April and some til June 1.
harvesting wils steelhead is flat out greedy there is no viable reason why anyone ever needs to keep a wild steelhead. EVER. I am all for keeping people from doing it by any means necessary.

Thats not what I'm saying Bob. Of course harvest has an impact on our fisheries. I'm just not convinced that a "sport harvest" has such an impact that it cannot be managed to sustain a fishery. Now fish harvested using such methods as gill nets, thats a different story. There may even a rare case where sport harvest were a main factor of a run decline. I can't think of one and I think it would be a rare case.

you used harvest wrong , this wsr rule says you cant retain a wild steelhead, it says nothing about not being able to harvest them.

WSR IS A HARVEST FISHERY. IT JUST EXTENDS OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME PEOPLE.

WSR will only be sucessfull at improving runs when over harvest is the main cause of the declining runs.

Okay, I see ... this is just a game

Have fun! :rolleyes:

I don't think it is a game at all Bob.

Was refering to Boater1's comment Bruce.

Your latest statement is supposed to be news to us?

Of course it will only work in streams that are seeing too much harvest.

In the remaining 11 streams that are open to harvest and are affected by this ruling, harvest is likley the #1 factor in impact to the fish. Most drain out of Olympic National Park and have pretty good habitat. Hatcheries are an influence to some degree (more reason for WSR so that stacking fish don't hold early wild fish headed for upstream that would normally go through quicker).

Now some will blame only the nets and say that sporties don't count. BS.

Plus, how will sporties ever approach the tribes to decrease netting when we are continuing to directly harvest them (is that a better term for you?)? That'll go over like a ton of bricks, especially given the track records of the Hohs and Quileutes!

"Plus, how will sporties ever approach the tribes to decrease netting when we are continuing to directly harvest them (is that a better term for you?)? That'll go over like a ton of bricks, especially given the track records of the Hohs and Quileutes!"

If we're going to take this stand then lets be clear about that. I would have much less of a problem with that than I do with so many guys pointing fingers in other directions (like at any sport fisher who wants to keep a fish). Also, as you and many other have stated in the past. You would not support the harvest of wild steelhead ever for any reason. That mentality concerns me.

what was such a "game" about my last post ?, the state cant ban the harvest of wild steelhead, if they did all fishing would close.

Hmmm, Just read on another thread about the nisqually and the 14 years of no fishing due to sport over harvest... at least that is what the locals have said has happened...

If it is going to take the peninula rivers half that long to recover from over harvest then maybe it is time for WSR before it's too late....

Don't believe everything you read on these fishin boards Piper. Believing everything posted on a fishing board can lead to a serious state of depression. The outlook is so grime and bleek, its almost enough to make a person join PETA or quit fishing or something stupid like that.

Or even release a wild steelhead...