So do you think the recent statewide WSR ruling will get rescinded?

I'd like to make a friendly little bet with Todd of WSC.

If it does not get rescinded I'll build Todd a Northwest Custom Rod valued at $150 or less. If it does get rescinded then Todd buys me a Northwest Custom Rod valued at $150 or less.

Well what do you think Todd. You up for that?

I think Todd has too much class to place a bet on the conservation of a fish he so dearly loves.

Its all in good fun Sparky boy. It's not a bet on the conservation of the fish anyway. Its a fun little bet on which way the ruling will go. Todd's been saying for a long time now how legal it was, so it should be a sure thing for him.

I'll make you the same offer Sparky.

I guess I have too much class to bet on the conservation of a fish I so dearly love.

Class? meanining, I am too good that that pety betting stuff? Thats for commoners?

I knew it, Its just the do gooder I am better than you syndrome comming out.

Whooo! Five whole rivers that had harvestable fish in them and helped support some peoples livelyhoods are now closed to "meatheads" Big whoop-d-doo. meanwhile we have 860,000 pinnepeds(compared to historic numbers around 80,000) and a gazillion commorants muchin on our precious fish and nobodies lifting a finger to do anything about that!

Get off your high horse ya didnt do anything to save our wild fish or even our hatchery ones for that matter. Just look at the other 156 rivers where catch and release has already been in place for 4 years or more. Wow look at all the fish return now, oh wait they havent been, and there not going to get any better runs till the wdfw pulls there head out of there arse and shows some leadership for a change.

BTB, the politicians are already talking about the economic ramifications of shutting down more fisheries, A trend that is picking up speed every year so maybe things will start happening now that will be benificial too the fish and our ego's.

Cool !!! another WSR bash post. I wonder if we will learn anything new from this one ???

This is why I like the WSR ruling.

Just for the record both these hatchery fish were taken in March... along with these two hatchery brats that were bonked I released another native and a downriver fish.

It would be a damn shame if they recinded the rule... there's no reason at all to bonk a wild fish...

maybe we should talk about targeted catch and release seasons on runs that are barely meeting escapment ?

Gasp! No one here would ever do that Boater... Would they?

How about this.. Someone fishing a river such a the hump where all steelhead fishing closed, the river only being open to salmon. Nobody here would deliberately target those troubled runs of wild steelhead under the guise of fishing for salmon would they?

Or we can talk about a catch-and-kill fishery that will place the escapment below the goal when a C&R fishery would allow it stay above

If it is that bad then there should be NO fishing period! Not even you Bob. Why would you want to guide clients over runs of wild steelhead that may not be meeting escapement goals anyway?

That's the exact point Bruce ...

But it would meet escapement if we weren't taking 500-1000 fish a year out of it through havest

The numbers would be just fine w/o the harvest.

Need I say more?

I don't feel that I should have to sacrifice my enjoyment of our sport so that you can have an extended guiding season. Especially considering that I know your impact on the resource is much greater than mine. Sorry Bob but thats how I see it.

What about all those that aren't on my boat?

And you're calling the pro-WSR crowd selfish.

Oh and PS Bruce ... it's the CLIENTS that are FISHING. not me

They are fisherman just like you. As I recall, you've taken a trip with Jim Leons here and so have some of your relatives. I guess YOU didn't FISH then did you?

"As I recall, you've taken a trip with Jim Leons here and so have some of your relatives. I guess YOU didn't FISH then did you?"

Of course I did, but knowing what I know now (thanks to WSC) about how the wild fish runs on the OP are in such dire straights and that they are in a continued downward decline and at risk of being severaly depressed. I doubt that myself or any of my relatives will be fishing on those troubled runs of wild fish. I don't think that fishing for endangered runs of fish is very conservation minded.

Bob this is exactly why I feel that management should be on a river by river basis. Management that includes WSR/CNR/Harvest or whatever a particular system can support. Your saying that the hoh cannot support a sport fishing harvest? Maybe, maybe not, I'm no expert so I'll leave that call to the experts. Unfortunatly we've tied the hands of the experts with the recent statewide WSR ruling.

:rolleyes:

And the broken record continues trying to spit endless dribble that has been adressed before.

Gonna be hard to spend your money like you said you planned to at those establishments if you're not going to come out and fish these depressed runs.

I give Bruce. You're right. Let's kill 'em all. I think next year I'll encourage everyone to kill every fish they can legally get on my boat ... and I'm gonna target the biggest bucks and cary a loop on the boat to check a hen's scales really quick to see if she's a repat so I can get more egs.

And now that I'll let people kill them, I'll expand our customer base so we'll get another boat or two going doing the same thing.

Thanks for showing me the light! I guess we need to discuss things any longer!

:rolleyes:

And the broken record continues trying to spit endless dribble that has been adressed before.

Gonna be hard to spend your money like you said you planned to at those establishments if you're not going to come out and fish these depressed runs.

I give Bruce. You're right. Let's kill 'em all. I think next year I'll encourage everyone to kill every fish they can legally get on my boat ... and I'm gonna target the biggest bucks and cary a loop on the boat to check a hen's scales really quick to see if she's a repat so I can get more egs.

And now that I'll let people kill them, I'll expand our customer base so we'll get another boat or two going doing the same thing.

Thanks for showing me the light! I guess we need to discuss things any longer!

Theres always salmon.

Your welcome However, I know that you are a very good Angler Bob but I don't think that even you are that good. I'm sure you put your share of anglers on fish (LOTS OF FISH) but I really don't think that even you could kill them all.