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#241380 - 04/20/04 03:37 AM Seasickness
Arklier Offline
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Well, I finally got the details ironed out. My dad and I are going on a halibut charter off Neah Bay in mid-May. Sure, I've been out on the big water during rough weather before, but those times have all been in ferries, which are a heck of a lot bigger boats than the charter. I don't think either of us will have a problem with seasickness, but I want to be prepared. Don't want to be the people who are puking and fishing at the same time. What's the best prevention to bring along?

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#241381 - 04/20/04 04:16 AM Re: Seasickness
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Well, I think everyone has a different remedy. I was in Cabo last month and did fine out in the Pacific. I just poped a few Dramamine in the morning. If I ever start to feel ill, a nice cool breeze and drinking cold water helps me. This might sound crazy to alot of you but last year I got a little ill feeling and I leaned way back in my chair, closed my eyes and just went with the waves as the wind was blowing by. Motion sickness is caused by vestibular disorientation, where the semicircular canals of your inner ear sense motion and send that information to your brain and becomes confused by the information it is recieving from your eyes. Knowing that, I figured I could remove the visual signals my brain was recieving. Seemed to work, I didnt vomit!

Im sure fishinphysician can do a much better job of explaining this, and probably even correct me.

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#241382 - 04/20/04 08:40 AM Re: Seasickness
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Anything carbonated...beer, pop, etc.
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#241383 - 04/20/04 09:34 AM Re: Seasickness
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" ANYTHING CARBONATED !!! " I once blew a coca cola out my nose... I was chuming foam. I think if your the kinda person who gets sea sick.. you just gotta live in it. It kicks my ass. Not everytime, but a lot of the time. I can tell projectile puking storys that would have you chuming out of sympathy. If I take Dramamine... my puke tastes just like it. One time at Rivers Inlet, I puked so hard I thought I had ripped my guts open.. It was red. I was freaking out until my buddy reminded me that it was the red wine we had with the dinner they made us on arrival. They gave us some stuff called Bonine ?? I think anyway.. and it worked but puts you in a coma like trance that makes you want to sleep all day. Another time down in Mexico, went out on a day cruise boat with the wife. Took a little snooze and woke up puking. Some guy from Jersey is filming me blowing over the side of the boat with his cam corder. The boat got about a 100 yards from shore and I tell tell the caption... " I'm outa here "... jumped off, swam to shore.. swimming and puking at the same time.. got on the beach and walked 8 miles back to town.

Other times I am fine. I have been out on lots of boats fishing in Mexico and had no problems. However, everytime I get into the pacific ocean, no matter where, I start puking.

The last time was a couple of years ago out of Depot bay in Oregon. Went out Salmon fishing with the kids. I puked hard and long. I went up on the high deck and asked the guy running the boat whats best to keep away sea sickness. He says " next time, have the guy let you drive the boat for awhile, it takes your mind off puking "... So I said "cool, let me drive this boat"... he says " I told you next time... not my boat "... It was bad. Got back to the dock and felt somewhat better. Later back at the house we had rented on the beach, I was sitting in a lawn chair watching the surf break and it made me puke again.

I have puked on water so flat you could water ski on it... I have puked in rolling swells.. I have puked in big waves... In fact, I want to get sick just thinking about it so I better stop right now.

Geez... I think you asked how to prevent it, not what can happen. I hope someone gives you a good answer cause I'll try anything
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#241385 - 04/20/04 10:51 AM Re: Seasickness
Kev Offline
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Try some stuff called "Bonine", it's like Dramamine, but doesn't cause the drowsiness. Take along a 6 pack of Ginger Ale, that will also help fight the nausea. When fishing off of the West side if Vancouver Island many years ago with my wife, she was sick for 8 hours straight. A little Japanese woman came over to my wife and gave her a little piece of candied Ginger and told her to chew and suck on the candied Ginger. It worked great, calmed her stomach and made her feel better right away.

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#241386 - 04/20/04 10:51 AM Re: Seasickness
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You guys may think I'm smoking crack or something but try putting a brown paper bag under your shirt. I work on a charter boat during the summer and a few people have done this and it has worked. The theory behind it is that the bag helps you keep your mind off track from feeling sick. There is also a little artice in Great Lakes Angler that I will try to dig up that talks about this method. First time I heard about it, I couldn't stop laughing. May sound crazy to you but its worth a shot.

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#241387 - 04/20/04 11:02 AM Re: Seasickness
Limbo Jimbo Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA
*WARNING*
I am not trying to practice medicine!

I used to get terribly seasick as a teenager fishing with my dad out of Westport, so much so that I avoided saltwater for a number years. I tried scopolamine patches some years back with varying degrees of success. I didn't hurl, but if you wear a patch for a couple of days in a row, you might have a problem with double-vision and I promise you won't be able to work up enough saliva to spit! Scopolamine really dries you out. A seaman friend that crews for Foss is some of the worst conditions you can imagine passed along this tip and it works great for me. If I'm headed for big water, I start taking meclizine 2-3 days before my trip. One tablet in the morning is all there is to it. You probably know this by it's brand name Bonine or Bonamine. Ask you r pharmacist for the genaric (meclizine) and you'll get 5 times as many tablets for roughly the same price.
Another thought is talk to your doctor about compazine. I've read that they give it to the shuttle astronauts for nausea. Available by perscription only.
These techniques work not only for myself but for my wife. They have been put to the test In the Queen Charlottes, 50 miles out of Westport for albacore, 25 miles out of Tofino for kings and halibut.

Try giving your doctor a call, there are remedies available that don't involve bacon grease, anchovies and beer!

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#241388 - 04/20/04 11:12 AM Re: Seasickness
Jeff D Offline
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After several trips out in the Atlantic and Pacific with the same result - puking - I called the doctor for a scoklamine prescription last summer before a trip to Westport. (3 day patch behind ear)

Turned out to be a great trip. I avoided alcohol and put the patch on the night before. I did notice some dehydration and minor side effects in the moring, but overall, well worth it.

I am sure I mispelled the name above, but call your doctor, they'll set you up over the phone and call the prescription into the pharmacy.

Good Luck on your Halibut trip!

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#241389 - 04/20/04 11:13 AM Re: Seasickness
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1) Stay away from alcohol
2) Stay away from greasy breakfast foods, eat cereal or fruit
3) Stay away from exhaust fumes (if possible)
4) Don't look down, watch the horizon or land
5) Bring Ginger Ale or 7-up and Saltine crackers (I've heard ginger, as mentioned above works too)
6) I don't recommend Bonine or Dramamine as I've seen both fail alot more then succeed, and they make you drowsy.
7) The new wrist watch band that sends out an electrical impulse worked well for alot of my guest last summer.
8) Their is a perscription drug (sorry, don't know the name) that I know 2 (seasicker) guides swear by.
9) If you feel it coming on get fresh air, if you need to puke, don't hold back, get it out.
10) If you do get sick, remember this, YOU WON"T DIE FROM IT.

Good luck!

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#241390 - 04/20/04 11:20 AM Re: Seasickness
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Loc: Edmonds
I am just reading "How to Catch Trophy Halibut". In this book, the author discusses a prescription med (I forgetthe name right now) and ephedrine? Both in 25 mg doses.

Of course you will need to consult your doctor first and to get the perscription, but he swears it works!

I will post the name of the prescription later.

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#241391 - 04/20/04 11:30 AM Re: Seasickness
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I'd say don't go out with B-run. I've only been sick once in my life as a kid I sat where the diesel blew in my face going over a particularly rough Westport bar. But I've been in 20 foot swells in a skiff and had a blast watching land, no land, land, no land....(feeling Ok B-run?).
I've also heard ginger works but you'd think it would taste awful. The worst is if one person on the boat gets sick then it seems to spread. Don't look at a sick person.
Speaking of B-run....my dad and I were on a neighbors Westport charter 30 years ago and there was an old man with a cheese sandwich in one hand and the other hand he'd use to pull his false teeth out to puke, put the dripping teeth back in and take a bite out of the cheese sandwich. Now watching this guy we both almost lost it. I felt like just throwing him overboard and ending his misery. And for me beer is the best on a real rough day.
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#241392 - 04/20/04 11:43 AM Re: Seasickness
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Too funny !!! land, no land, land, no land... thats about enough right there.

Last time at Depot bay the fish boy was whacking Silvers over the head with a lead pipe to kill them... I asked him to please hit me with it just once to knock me out.. he said he got that same request at least once a day.
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#241393 - 04/20/04 12:33 PM Re: Seasickness
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Quote:
Originally posted by B-RUN STEELY:
I have puked on water so flat you could water ski on it
That was a funny story! \:D You probably puke when you flush the toilet, or take a shower, huh? LOL! \:D

I'm one of those SOB's that just has never experienced sea sickness yet. The times that I have known I'll be in big seas, I'll just take a couple dramamine, and I'm all set.

I had a blast out in the 6-8' seas of the Pacific in Cabo in December!

Although, I did managed to ride out the tail end of a typhoon in 20' "angry" seas and sunk our 22' dive skiff. Out of 16 people on the main boat, only 4 of us didn't get sick, and that was me, the captain, 2nd in command, and one dude from California.

Makes for a funny story - especially the photo of my wife, after 5 hours of hugging the toilet! ;\) Feel free to read the adventure! ;\)

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#241394 - 04/20/04 12:45 PM Re: Seasickness
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I was never seasick until the last couple of years, started taking medicine for acid reflux and my tummy aint what it used to be!
I do alot of the things mentioned above, avoid the greasy breakfast, watch the horizon, etc... I have found that go old peptobismol works pretty good as a preventative. I take the caplettes cause I really don't like the taste of the liquid or chewables. I also try to do as much as possible to keep busy. I will set all the downriggers, pull all the gear when there is a fish on, wash the deck, gut the fish, play with the gps or finder, anything to keep busy. I also make sure to stay up wind of anyone who is seasick, nothing like a little wiff to get you started.
Last of all, have a thick hide. Your buddies will raz ya, the other people on the boat you may not know will treat you like you have SARS, the bait boy will giggle and the captain will roll his eyes and shake his head, but WHO CARES! To HE double hockey sticks with all of 'em. Have fun, puke if ya need to and make sure you track every mess up your buddies make for a year so you have some ammo when the feathers fly!
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#241395 - 04/20/04 01:40 PM Re: Seasickness
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Along with some of the other suggestions, I would add that you should stay out of the head if you possibly can. I've known a couple people who have gone out with me that were feeling a little queasy, but managing to maintain, but just lost it after going to the head. Something about being in that small, closed space with no moving air that just put them over the edge.
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#241396 - 04/20/04 01:46 PM Re: Seasickness
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Loc: Port Angeles, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by stlhead:
The worst is if one person on the boat gets sick then it seems to spread. Don't look at a sick person.
Then who will I make fun of???

I like to wait until its obvious they are gonna spew, then pick up a herring, and bite it in half! It works every time! Another great trick is to bleed your fish into the piss bucket, take a leak in it, and dump the contents overboard in front of someone who's going to lose it. Usually if you complain about the stinging while your pi$$ing adds to the effect.

I usually run about 80% sick in my boat at Neah bay, I cant figure out why they keep asking to go again!

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#241397 - 04/20/04 01:47 PM Re: Seasickness
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Registered: 11/09/02
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Loc: Centralia, WA
I'm a puker--bad! In fact I wish I did as good as B-run on the water!

That being said, last fall I wore the electrical shock bracelet to Buoy 10. On the first day, the water was pretty wavey but not super bad. We fished right out at the buoy and I did fine!! First time I've been able to fish out at the buoy--most of the time we have to fish near the shore.

On the second day, the water was much worse. Huge swells. Up....Down....Up....Down....it was yucky. Again, we fished out at the buoy and I was a little queezy, but managing pretty good. Then the batteries died on my zapper thingy!! I had extras, but it took me 15 minutes to find them--looking through a couple boxes with my head down. Anyway, I got the thing up and running again, but I felt awful the rest of the day. I never puked though.

I am going back this year. I have a lot of confidence in that zapper. Many people have told me that it's just a mental thing, but I don't care! If it works, it works! Got mine at Camping World or something like that (near Sportco).
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#241398 - 04/20/04 02:08 PM Re: Seasickness
bob b Offline
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I've had to deal with motion sickness my entire life,boats,planes,cars makes no difference,if it moves it can make me sick.

Follow the advice of Akkings. I'll add coffee to his list of things to avoid,the acid in coffee will turn your stomach insideout real quick.

When using dramamine or bonine take one tablet the night before,one after waking up and one just after boarding. Neither works after sickness sets in.

Transderm Scop,scopolamine, patches have been the remedy for me. I've been able to function,most times,while other people have been sick. The past 20 patches have worked 18 times. Side effects are minimal outdoors but drowsiness is a problem once out of the fresh air. The patch must be put in place the night before. I've combined the patch with one bonine pill in the morning when conditions looked bad.

NASA has used a combination of scopolamine and dextramphetamine for astronauts prone to motion sickness. I asked a druggist at Fred Meyer about this and he has filled this prescription.

I'll try almost anything in order to have a day of ocean fishing.

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#241399 - 04/20/04 03:06 PM Re: Seasickness
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Some of you guys 'crack me up'. Shall we say 'old wives tales' or medieval cures!

NASA and the Air Force have spent millions looking for motion sickness remedies ..

BRunsteely, you're an Idaho flatlander, that's why you don't have sea legs .. \:D
(just kidding) I've been there too. When I shipped home from Korea I was barfing before the ship left the dock in Pusan, and never stopped for 15 days until we reached Seattle. I lost 20 lbs and survived on water and soda crackers...(that's a tough diet)
Boy did my abdominal muscles get firm -- for years after I could stick my finger down my throat and upchuck with no physical discomfort..

Disclaimer -- I'm no expert but have researched these seasick remedies.........use at yopur own risk ;\)

Batin/Rudnick 2 hrs before departure -- 25mg Promethazine (antihistamine perscription) + 25 mg Ephedrine over counter decongestant--- suposedly neg effects block one another.

Scopalamine patch (dont use for long periods of time or you may become addicted) don't ask how I know --- a smart Dr. weened me off -- I was getting motion sick on dry land without a patch !! \:\(

Scope patch + meclazine (from Ifish thread)

.5 mg dextroamphetamine + .04 mg scopalamine --need a Dr. perscription (Ifish thread)

Capt. Kujo on Ifish has NASA report......

Lots of luck -- I'll be trying one of these come Hali season------god but I hate those swells !!
(flat or otherwise)
My buddies, who can't walk straight and chew gum at the same time never get seasick -- So I guess the better your coordination is the more likely you are to be afflicted. :p
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#241400 - 04/20/04 03:22 PM Re: Seasickness
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Getting some good advice and ideas I have not heard of. So how come it never happens to me on fresh water lakes ?? I have been out in some rough lakes.. Not huge waves but ones that would for sure have me thunder chumming in the salt. If its just the motion that does it, I would think I would have a hard time in the bath tub. I say its got something to do with the smell of the ocean ( mostly the pacific )... I get to the dock and see some kelp.. then take a good long wiff and I'm well on my way to an extended fluid drain fiesta. I was telling one of the fishing buds about this post. He says you could hide the secret of life from me on bouy 10 and I would have no chance of finding it.. I don't go with them when they head over to Westport etc because I know what will happen.

Is the secret of life out at bouy 10 ??? I think I am going to put on a patch, stuff my shirt with a paper bag, wear an electric shocker and go see this summer... or not
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#241401 - 04/20/04 03:40 PM Re: Seasickness
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Back when I was a NMFS observer in the Bering Sea, Scopolamine worked wonders for me. Don't know about the addiction thing, I'd get an 8 week supply. Freaked out the old man though; he was career Army and told me that high doses of Scope was used as a truth serum during WWII. Oh well....

On one of my last voyages, a coast guard officer told me about ginger tablets, and they work great as well. You can buy them in capsules at health food stores and you can swallow them by the handful--alot cheaper than Scope. In keeping with the B-run style of imagery here, I would actually find comfort in burping up that ginger smell 20 minutes after downing a handfull, knowing any quesiness would soon be a thing of the past!

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#241402 - 04/20/04 03:57 PM Re: Seasickness
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Kev almost had it, AKKING is accurate.
Here is an easy natural tip. Remember Kev said Ginger Ale....its the Ginger. A couple of days before drink some Ginger tea, coupla times a day. Anything Ginger will help. Try some ginger capsules a couple of hours in advance of hitting the water.

The stuff works...and NO side effects! also good for morning sickness too.

scopolamine patch behind the ear is the next best, it just turn it up a notch.
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#241403 - 04/20/04 04:03 PM Re: Seasickness
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Hello, My name is wolverine and I am a upchucker wanna be. Only did the deed one time, and it was my first trip out of Westport. The first good whiff of diesel exhaust sent me to the rail to do some technicolor projectile hurling. As luck would have it my rod was the hot one that day. I must have reeled in 15 fish with my eyes shut and dry heaving. Yup, a real fun day. Flat water doesn't do it to me, but big swells and diesel really start the acid flowing. If I can get thru the first day then I'm ok. I've learned to acclimate myself the first day by fishing various types of water. Obviously no diesel puker boats for me the first day. I can look like I'm going to die, but manage to hold it down. In fact I've made some nice $$$ on bets with guys that think that I'm gonna hurl. They've tried nearly everything gross to get me going, but as long as theres $$$ involved and they don't show me pictures of Rosie O Donnell naked I think that I can keep it down. I've tried every med and voodoo trick out there, but its still gradual acclimation that works for me. A doc that did a lot of work with military pilots told me that people that had a lot of ear and sinus infections as kids were the most prone to seasickness. I don't care if the trips free, the first day I'm not going out with anyone unless they are willing to move back and forth from big blue to the smooth stuff.
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#241404 - 04/20/04 04:55 PM Re: Seasickness
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When I was 17 a group of my friends wanted to do a charter out of Waestport. They drank all the way there and most of the night and then had a greasy bfast in the early AM. We get on the boat and there is a big old fat guy smoking a cigar. My friends start talking big as the boat hits the bar and the fat guy is just watching them and listening. He starts to really puff on the cigar and smokes up the cabin pretty good the guys started turning a little pale and complain about the smoke. the fat guy says "you don't like the smoke? how about this." reaches in the bait can and pulls out a herring and bites off the head and chews it. A few head for the rail and and start to puke. the seagulls dive down and start eating the puke. Most of the rest of the boat hits the rail and joins in the fun. the big fat guy and I limited out for the boat on silvers as everyone layed around and barfed all day.

NASA says they can make any one puke from motion sickness. Get the patch and go fish.
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#241405 - 04/20/04 06:26 PM Re: Seasickness
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Moderate Seas:
Bonine (meclazine) & Trader Joe's "Triple Ginger Cookies"

Heavy Seas:
Scopalomine
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#241406 - 04/20/04 06:45 PM Re: Seasickness
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I don't know if anyone's tried this or not. (I don't get seasick so I haven't) A few days before your trip, make an appointment with your doctor and ask for a small prescription of Compazine. It's a powerful anti-nausea medicine, and I believe it's the one most commonly used in hospitals.
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#241407 - 04/20/04 07:11 PM Re: Seasickness
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nothing has ever worked for me. the only thing i have learned is to take something to eat and drink and use it so that you do not get the dry heaves. they hurt
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#241408 - 04/20/04 10:40 PM Re: Seasickness
Idaho Mike Offline
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I recommend the Meclizine too. I suffer from Vertigo from time to time. I get basically the same feeling you get from being on the ocean, sometimes on the verge of puking. I have a prescription of Meclizine to take when it gets bad. It works great. Only downside is it makes you tired. Talk to your Doctor about it.

I have to admit though that when I fish in Baja I find a couple of Pacificos on the way out keeps the sea sickness away.
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#241409 - 04/20/04 11:51 PM Re: Seasickness
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After researching this subject for some time and interviewing many victims I have concluded that the best bet for potential seasickness is to smoke WEED> Have you ever puked ...ON WEED? Good quality projectile vomitting! and I hear you don't care.
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#241410 - 04/21/04 12:24 AM Re: Seasickness
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Ginger ale and soda crackers or so I have been told never had a problem with it myself.Some of your stories remind me of the time I was riding the Alaska ferry, myself and a friend were sitting in the bar and I notice this guy at another table looking a little green so I tell my buddy to watch this and I start rocking back and forth in my chair just about then the bartender see's what I'm doing and yells at me and the poor guy pukes all over his table the bartender didn't have much of a sense of humor kicked me out of his bar and told me not to ever come back. \:D

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#241411 - 04/21/04 04:26 AM Re: Seasickness
blueslide_dup1 Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 13
Loc: Oregon
I have yet to be seasick but that may be due to always being careful what I eat and don't drink. Same as above replies. If you can. always scan the horizon and think positive. Sounds stupid but it does help.
The scopalene(sp?) patch is great and I have used that several times out halibut and tuna fishing when seas were just nasty. I think that is your best option.
When a fellow fisherman out 60 miles in rough seas for tuna was looking green and probably ready to puke... one of the deckhands gave him some ginger snap cookies. He was feeling much better within about 20 mins. I took some ginger capsules last time out tuna fishing when I didn't have the scopalene patch and could tell it did help as I didn't get sick.
I tried some meclizine a day before the trip but it made me feel strange. I didn't like it.
So I would say the patch but always carry some "real" ginger product.
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#241412 - 04/21/04 09:38 AM Re: Seasickness
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If you want a cure for seasickness, this will work. The night before you go fishing drink a combination of pink champagne and Old English 800 beer. Add a large pepperoni pizza and oyster shooters. The next morning eat undercooked eggs and greasy bacon. Once you're on the boat sit where you can smell the diesel smoke of the engine. Very soon you will wish you're dead and promise yourself you'll never go fishing again. Thus you will never get seasick again. Hey, it worked for my dad.
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#241413 - 04/21/04 09:54 AM Re: Seasickness
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
Grandpa... several people have told me that smoking pot will make it so you never get sea sick... they call it blowing a fish whistle.
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#241414 - 04/21/04 11:59 AM Re: Seasickness
barnettm Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
You can get fresh ginger in the veg section at the store. Chop into bite size pieces. Pickle in a solution of 1/2 vineagar 1/2 sugar. That makes it edible and it is actually pretty good. Will keep forever in fridge.

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#241415 - 04/21/04 03:05 PM Re: Seasickness
Finegrain Offline
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
HA HA HA HA ...

He, he he ...

Um, I'll be right back ...

The herring head chewing stuff would probably make me hurl on dry land. You guys are whack :p

I have never felt even a tinge on my own boat.

I was fine on the charter out of Sitka (28' Almar), I took Dramamine the night before and that morning.

The one thing that has made me a little queasy over the last few years was going out on a 36' Grand Banks for some whale-watching. It wasn't rough or anything, but I guess the diesel fumes + the gentle rocking motion at just the right frequency did the trick. I got some fresh air, found something to take my mind off of it, and was fine.

Here are my thoughts:

1. you can psyche yourself out enough to make yourself sick, so think positive -- it works
2. stuffy and hot = barfy, so try to get some fresh air, even if it means putting on foul weather gear and standing out in the rain
3. do something to keep yourself occupied, but not detailed work with your head down -- that will piss off your inner ear even more -- stand up and walk around, uncoil and coil some ropes, stuff like that
4. Stand up, try to stay stationary with respect to the horizon, and keep the horizon in sight as a reference point, to help your brain sort out all the conflicting motions OR, lay down and close your eyes. This gives your body a much more consistent set of sensory inputs as to what the h__l is going on. At the same time, visualize a Happy Place, not the waves and the rolling of the boat.
5. ginger ale is great, because it is fizzy, and has ginger
6. ask to go somewhere less lumpy -- I am very receptive to this on my boat, especially since it's usually family and friends
7. catch some spray in your face if available-- it may be refreshing enough to knock down some of the queasiness, and could very well take your mind off the bad feelings
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#241416 - 04/21/04 04:50 PM Re: Seasickness
Arklier Offline
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Registered: 05/30/01
Posts: 400
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks. Trader Joe's sells dried and sweetened preserved ginger as chewy candy, so maybe I'll pick some up.

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#241417 - 04/21/04 05:23 PM Re: Seasickness
Jaydee Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 968
Loc: Paradise City!
It seems to me that the people who worry about it the most get sick.
On the way out someone will say that "I never get seasick". Right there I can tell that getting sick is on their mind. And what happens? They get sick. Happens almost everytime.
Be well rested, and KNOW that you're going to be fine. Try not to worry about it too much.

J.D.
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#241418 - 04/21/04 06:31 PM Re: Seasickness
GutZ Offline
The Original Boat Ho

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
I have fished with OBMG a bunch out of Ucluelet (did you know Ucluelet is an Indian word for Barfing in the Ocean). My buddy and I would always like to look over the passengers and make a wager as to which was going to puke first. We got pretty good at picking them out.

I remember this one woman who was out on the back deck(smoking lounge). Her husband asked us to quit smoking because it was making her sick. We said we would if he could get her to stop puking cause it was making us sick. She didn't stop so we kept smoking.

The more pukers the better! That way you can limit the entire boat.

I have eaten little fishes (candlefish?) right off the hook. That will turn some of those that are on the edge!

I don't smoke Cigars so I know that wasn't me at Westport.

Snake! I thought you were dead! That sounds like a pretty good cure, too!
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#241419 - 04/22/04 01:48 PM Re: Seasickness
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 965
Loc: Seattle, Washington
What Kev said and most of what AKKings said.

Take 1 Bonine the night before.
Take 1 Bonine the morning of.
The morning of eat some very plain food (bagels, dry toast, saltine crackers etc).

This routine allows your body time to acclimate to the drugs (less sleepy) and gives your stomach something to do rather than slosh liquids around until you puke.

Bring water and other food to eat. Stay away from the fumes, get fresh air and watch the horizon. Do all this stuff especially if starting the feel sick. Eating a little more of the plain food every once in awhile will settle your stomach.

After being on the water for awhile you will probably get your sea legs and you can enjoy catching other people's limits and drinking their beer (because they are sick).

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#241420 - 04/22/04 02:21 PM Re: Seasickness
Limbo Jimbo Offline
Smolt

Registered: 05/10/02
Posts: 85
Loc: Seattle, WA
Well said. A lot of people make the mistake not eating. It'll burn ya every time!

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#241421 - 04/22/04 11:26 PM Re: Seasickness
Rockhopper Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 272
Loc: Olympia
I would say to try and do something remotely active like looking for whales and porpoises. If there are birds around observe them too to keep your mind off unpleasant thoughts. Whatever you do, don't you dare think about vomiting. If it even crosses your mind, do not dwell on it. Remember it's like they say, "Misery loves company."

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#241423 - 04/24/04 12:08 AM Re: Seasickness
shoemaker Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 265
Loc: Scratch
The best thing for sea sickness is a singing clicker.

That said, if your going to boot, eat stuff you wont mind seeing agian. Cold milk coming back up is as good as when it goes down.

Dont over eat, i made the mistake of eating my friends lunches and laughing while they were heaving over the side. I ended up joining them later in the day.

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#241424 - 04/24/04 12:57 AM Re: Seasickness
Jeff D Offline
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Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
Here's a great story that will not come across well on on a thread, but ...

My buddy and I are in Mexico fishing for Marlin and he starts feeling sick. He heads down to the bunk below deck and tries to lay down, but this makes him feel much worse.

Suddenly, he jumps out of the bunk and heads for the head to barf, and the door knob comes off in his hand, with the door still closed tight.

Next thing we see is him running toward us on the back deck with his hand over his mouth and his cheeks bulging, all while holding the stinking doorknob in his left hand. As soon as he reaches the top step he begins his projectile vomiting across the back deck, and us, to the rail where he finishes the job.

The Mexican deck hands where on the floor rolling in laughter. To this day he's never lived it down.

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#241425 - 04/24/04 01:32 AM Re: Seasickness
AkKings Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
I could damn near right a book of sea-sick stories but a couple of my favorites would be,

1) I had a rather large (6'4" 250lbs.) black gentleman get as sick as anyone I've seen on my boat, he went in the cabin with a 5 gal. bucket/porta-potti and became what we refer to as a "spinner", filling the bucket from both ends, after about 15 min. he decides he's done and heads out of the cabin to dump the bucket, he trips on the door track and falls face forward, the bucket hits first and proceeds to spash right in this guys face, that was as close to getting sick as I've come, that was his first and last day on the boat.

2) A buddy of mine had a guy "starch-up" on him and decide to go lie down in the cabin, while he's in there the water is getting rougher and he can no longer hold his lunch, he gets to the cabin door and can't figure out how to open it, my buddy, seeing this guys distress comes over to open the door just as this guy is unloading, Randy gets a full face full, this happened about 10 a.m., he was out till 4 smelling like vomit.

3) My all time favorite though was 3 brothers I fished with about 5 years ago, we were fishing in 3-4 ft. seas and doing pretty well, 1 of the guys asks if there is somewhere else we can fish as he thinks he had a bad oyster for dinner and isn't feeling well, and I tell him there are alot of places to fish but they probably won't be as good as where we are, another brother tells the first brother to quite whining and keep fishing, then tells me there's a $100 in it for me to stay and limit out, the 1st brother hands me $200 and says take me in, we were at the dock in 45 minutes. \:D

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#241426 - 04/24/04 03:41 AM Re: Seasickness
theonearmedbandit Offline
Fry

Registered: 04/18/04
Posts: 27
Loc: Longview Wa
Well I learned the hard way not to go in the cabin and try to rest. That made it twenty times worse. I have only got sick twice out there but I found if I go to the front of the boat and focus on something in the distance (another boat) and breath deep I feel just fine. Have a good trip.
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#241427 - 04/24/04 10:22 AM Re: Seasickness
fred evans Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/16/01
Posts: 215
Loc: White City, Oregon
Quote:
Originally posted by AkKings:
1) Stay away from alcohol
2) Stay away from greasy breakfast foods, eat cereal or fruit
3) Stay away from exhaust fumes (if possible)
4) Don't look down, watch the horizon or land
5) Bring Ginger Ale or 7-up and Saltine crackers (I've heard ginger, as mentioned above works too)
6) I don't recommend Bonine or Dramamine as I've seen both fail alot more then succeed, and they make you drowsy.
7) The new wrist watch band that sends out an electrical impulse worked well for alot of my guest last summer.
8) Their is a perscription drug (sorry, don't know the name) that I know 2 (seasicker) guides swear by.
9) If you feel it coming on get fresh air, if you need to puke, don't hold back, get it out.
10) If you do get sick, remember this, YOU WON"T DIE FROM IT.

Good luck!
All VERY good ideas: but I'd like to add one more. This will seem strange but ROLAIDS. When you start to get the 'tummy rolls' the acid builds up very quickly, making the situation worse.

Pop some Rolaids to take care of this .. and get the taste of bile out of your mouth. Stom. starts to 'roll' again, pop somemore.
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#241428 - 04/25/04 04:04 PM Re: Seasickness
Pitch Pocket Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 04/10/01
Posts: 144
Loc: Portland, OR
If you get seasick, try this. Cut up a yellow pepper, a green pepper and a fresh tomato and eat it all just before you go out without chewing it. It won't keep you from vomiting, but it will look really pretty in the water. Badum-dum :rolleyes:


Seriously, though....... If you use chewable dramamine and dissolve it between your cheek and gum instead of swallowing, it gets into your blood stream much quicker. When swallowed, the active ingredient needs to get to your small intestines before it is absorbed and can take as long as 3 hours to get there depending on what's in your stomach and your digestion that day. Taking dramamine only an hour before you go out generally means it's not going to work in time. Take a pill before bed and then when you get up dissolve one behind your lip every 3 hours......set a timer on your watch and don't miss it.
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#241429 - 04/25/04 05:59 PM Re: Seasickness
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Downtime,
You're paper bag cure is similar to one and old sailor friend of mine swears by...

Just take a magazine or newspaper and tuck it in under your belt. Kinda similar to the way old Chuck Knox used carry his clipboard and playsheet sticking out of his pants.

I may have to whip up some new salmon scent... ala ginger snap... If the Charter boats are giving this stuff to the pukers it must attract fish too...


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