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#241992 - 04/26/04 02:02 AM home in shambles
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Am I the only one noticing the overall negativity on the board lately? Especially all the guys posting just to stir the pot. Puts a real downer on why we all congregate here.... our virtual home river. Maybe that's why there is so much less activity with any substance... all this negativity is keeping all the regular contributors away.

C'mon guys, let's not allow our "home" to deteriorate into shambles.

If someone wants to get on here and just sling mud, best response is just SILENCE. Try it and see how quickly the instigator just quits.... they get no fun out of their inappropriate posts if they can't get a rise out of someone.

That's all I have to say on this topic, so if someone wants to "flame away", be my guest.... you'll get no rise out of me.

For the rest of you who agree with this post, stand up and be counted with a thumbs up, aye, or amen. Then make a pledge to post something in the next week of a contributory nature to this piscatorial pursuit we all love. Let's not allow all of TRBO's great work to be held hostage by a few troublemakers.
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#241993 - 04/26/04 02:05 AM Re: home in shambles
AkKings Offline
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Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
Well said doc

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#241994 - 04/26/04 03:24 AM Re: home in shambles
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Fry

Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 26
Loc: Western Washington
Thanks for speaking up, Doc! A person can always find something negative about anything....except fishing! \:\)

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#241995 - 04/26/04 08:34 AM Re: home in shambles
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#241996 - 04/26/04 08:43 AM Re: home in shambles
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Loc: IDAHO
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#241997 - 04/26/04 09:28 AM Re: home in shambles
Diehard Offline
Fry

Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 29
Loc: Cheney WA.
Why are some of us so quick to jump to on someone who makes a typo or spelling error. lightin up. You know what they are trying to say. Be glad they are sharing some info.

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#241998 - 04/26/04 09:56 AM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 323
Loc: Bothell WA
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#241999 - 04/26/04 10:02 AM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 12/19/02
Posts: 274
Loc: Oak Harbor Wa
remember Im "Neandertal like" not a neandertal at all

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#242000 - 04/26/04 10:40 AM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Bothell, WA U.S.A.
Couldn't agree with you more doc!!! This is a great site and we need to all take a look at ourselves in the mirror and strive to bring it back to it's former glory! I will definitely make that pledge!
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#242001 - 04/26/04 11:15 AM Re: home in shambles
DL Offline
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Loc: Woodiville
Well said.

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#242002 - 04/26/04 12:01 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 12/14/01
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Loc: Everett WA
Like your mama told ya (or should have if she didn't) "if you can't say something nice, don't say nothi' at all!"
It is ok to disagree. It is ok to be passionate. State your point and move on. There is no need to attack others and it only distracts from what you have to say.
Be good to each other, you never know when it may come back to you!
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#242003 - 04/26/04 12:30 PM Re: home in shambles
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Loc: Mukilteo or Westport
Actually, I think the general atmosphere on the "fishing" board is WAY more civil than it was, say, a year ago.

Now that we have pretty much segregated all the political arguments to their own forum, I find it refreshing to see almost 100% fishing related posts on this board.

Those political arguments can really get ugly sometimes and the main board used to loaded with them.

But I agree. There is always room for improvement.

If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all, eh?
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#242004 - 04/26/04 12:58 PM Re: home in shambles
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Loc: University Place Washington
Here here, carry on
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#242005 - 04/26/04 04:14 PM Re: home in shambles
Easy E Offline
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Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 196
Loc: Washington
Great post Doc.

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#242006 - 04/26/04 04:17 PM Re: home in shambles
wildfishlover Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 05/16/03
Posts: 102
Loc: Duvall
Slab..aren't you one of those right wing whackos? You must be stupid then...there...how's that for stirring things up?

Ya know...without opponents there would be no debate. On here even posting a tip on a method of fishing can get a guy flamed to a crisp....That seems to be because some folks here are pretty sure the way they do things is the right way and allow no room for alternates.

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#242007 - 04/26/04 04:23 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 1585
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA , USA
FNP.....you've said it all.
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#242008 - 04/26/04 04:25 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA , USA
FNP.....you've said it all.
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#242009 - 04/26/04 05:54 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 12/24/01
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Loc: Kingston, WA
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#242010 - 04/26/04 05:57 PM Re: home in shambles
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Spawner

Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 788
Loc: Tacoma WA
LOL. Funny thread. This is to be expected. I think every board I've ever been to has it's ups and downs. It's just going to happen. I think this is like the 3rd or 4th saga of flamings since I signed on (which was pretty near the beginning of the board). Just happens. Just that the WSR is the basis for the flames. Last year can't quite remember what it was. It will pass like all the rest. Every board goes through, not just this one.

Luckily, didn't go the way of NWfishing. Was a pretty good board (and think the only one back then that had a decent following). That place fell apart fast. Now just a mediocre board that barely is posted on. Figured it would be one of the biggies, not just a remnant of what it once was. But it was always in turmoil. Think that was the big problem.

Just like a bad virus, just give it time and it'll pass. But can give it some meds (banning lol) to do some quick curing. Will it cure the problem in long run? Maybe, or may just come back again (see how I put the physician reference on the fishinphysicians thread?? \:D )
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#242011 - 04/26/04 05:58 PM Re: home in shambles
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SQ: I think you have it right, even though you are one of those guys who dont always see the wisdom of my point of view, you have alwasy disagreed civilly.

I hereby take the pledge. No insults or name calling. (Well I won't call board members names. I can't help but call some politicians and sports stars names, but I think that's healthy)
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#242012 - 04/26/04 06:22 PM Re: home in shambles
Jeff D Offline
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Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
I'm in

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#242013 - 04/26/04 06:24 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 788
Loc: Tacoma WA
Dave, you're just a silly poo poo head who likes to use BOBBERS. \:D
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#242014 - 04/26/04 07:12 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 01/22/00
Posts: 183
Loc: Rockport,WA,USA


\:D Yer right on target there Doc,.why do ya think I put the Jimmy Buffett post up every season.

"Maybe the Hokey-Pokey really is what its all about!" \:D

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#242015 - 04/26/04 11:23 PM Re: home in shambles
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Posts: 4000
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
It's not just the guys, some people it would seem are just out there to run everyone else's idea's, thoughts and suggestions down.I have tried to have discussions about various things here and find that it turns into a bash fest. Seems like if you have ideals that don't corrospond to the people (old timers on this board) then you are driven out on a rail, I have been taught that through discussion and the mixing of ideas, come more enlightened,informed and closer groups, driven to take on the vagaries of groups that would impead your ideas, thoughts and suggestions.......Fishy.........
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#242016 - 04/26/04 11:35 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 1147
Loc: Out there, somewhere
Been there for a while now.
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#242017 - 04/26/04 11:42 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 277
Loc: Post Falls, Idaho
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#242018 - 04/26/04 11:49 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Its been kind of tame for me lately. The last few photos I've posted of my kids catching bigger fish than most guys here regularly catch haven't been flamed at all. ;\) I'm glad "they" have been picking on someone else.
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#242019 - 04/27/04 02:13 AM Re: home in shambles
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Spawner

Registered: 10/15/03
Posts: 725
Loc: Olympia
Well said by all...this board is for those of us who share a common interest, even if we can't always agree on how to pursue it.
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#242020 - 04/27/04 02:28 AM Re: home in shambles
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Spawner

Registered: 11/07/02
Posts: 955
Loc: Tac/Puy
Doc,
RIGHT ON!!!
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#242021 - 04/27/04 02:37 AM Re: home in shambles
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Returning Adult

Registered: 03/10/01
Posts: 302
Loc: seattle,wa
I think I'm feeling the phung-shwei from the BB. Calm, tranquility, as-one.

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#242022 - 04/27/04 03:38 AM Re: home in shambles
rwgav8 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 491
Loc: Orting

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#242023 - 04/27/04 10:38 AM Re: home in shambles
Eric Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
I've felt the same vibe for awhile and, as a result, have pretty much taken to reading and not posting. I don't check in as often either.........used to be a daily ritual. I'd like to think things will turn more towards the positive as I try to remain upbeat. The last thing I should have to worry about is a favorite fishing forum bringing me DOWN........should be the other way around shouldn't it?

I'd love to see a return to shared experiences, more photos and techniques.......not that it doesn't happen. I just want it to be the standard; not the exception.

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#242024 - 04/27/04 10:31 PM Re: home in shambles
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Carcass

Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 2190
Loc: Post Falls Idaho
Right on Doc!
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#242025 - 04/27/04 10:43 PM Re: home in shambles
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Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 443
Loc: Area 8-1 to 13, WA
Personally, I think the solution is for mods to hit the delete button early when the thread content is unacceptable. Of course, this would require that the "standard" is well defined for "acceptable content."

From the outside, it looks like people are baited until they respond in an inappropriate fashion. Then, one person is banned or the thread is locked.

Over time, posters would understand that PP doesn't play that and wouldn't bother posting unacceptable content on their own. The plus is that you get the acceptable content which banning doesn't allow.

My two cents... which is probably not worth two cents. \:\)
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