#252561 - 08/20/04 10:27 AM
Kings... yellow mark
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Registered: 02/11/03
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Loc: Bainbridge Island WA
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I got a king yesterday that had a yellow dot just behind his left pectoral fin. It looked like a tatoo or something. was this a natural thing, or is it a mark to track fish. He had an adipose fin. anybody know?
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#252562 - 08/20/04 10:38 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 02/04/00
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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This topic was hashed out a while back on another board. The people in the know said it was a naturally occuring lipid(fat) deposit. There seems to be a lot of people who think it's man made, not true.
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#252563 - 08/20/04 11:27 AM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 12/31/03
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Loc: Puyallup
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I've caught many different species that were like that. There is nothing wrong with the fish, and I'm pretty sure it is completely natural.
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#252564 - 08/20/04 12:48 PM
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Registered: 02/11/03
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Loc: Bainbridge Island WA
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thanks guys. looked like a perfectly healthy fish but he had that one spot. sure looked man made.
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#252565 - 08/20/04 01:16 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/28/99
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Loc: wa., usa
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Hey D3, I have caught a few fish with that mark before also, but only around Southworth, never anyplace else. I was told by someone that it is a mark from a hatchery, possibly Gorst creek. did you by chance catch somewhere along the west side or possibly even southworth?
I am not implying that I know for a fact that the yellow tatoo is a hatchery mark, but i have been told that before. Maybe there is a poggie club member that could disspell the possibility of it being a gorst creek marking.
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#252566 - 08/20/04 01:34 PM
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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I have caught SRCs,coho and steelhead that had the yellow mark. Both Puget Sound and OP fish.
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#252567 - 08/20/04 01:40 PM
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Fry
Registered: 07/21/04
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Loc: Puget Sound
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I have never seen a yellow mark but I do have a question on the meat of a King....I got one the other day that was really pale almost white meat....I usually get pink or red meat so this surprised me.....it tasted ok when I cooked it but I don't know if the fish was healthy or not? Does anybody know? Thanks
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#252568 - 08/20/04 01:43 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 04/07/04
Posts: 393
Loc: maine
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I have caught ocean chinook with white meat before I forget what the certain run is called but I am sure that someone does
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#252569 - 08/20/04 02:10 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 09/10/03
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Loc: Puget Sound, WA
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The Kings going up the Fraser River are known for both red and white meat depending on the subspecies. Where did you catch yours?
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#252570 - 08/20/04 03:20 PM
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Registered: 02/11/03
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Loc: Bainbridge Island WA
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i did get him on the westside of the sound. I have not noticed this mark before on other fish but it really stood out on this fish. if i got a cuttie or a silver i doubt i would even notice it, but it really stood out with the darker skin of the king.
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#252571 - 08/20/04 03:37 PM
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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Take a look at Downriggin's fish in the 30-minute fishing trip post. That is a big yellow spot that's hard to miss.
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#252572 - 08/20/04 04:41 PM
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Registered: 12/28/99
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Loc: wa., usa
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Good point about DR's fish, just went back and looked at it. DR, what is your take on the yellow tatoo?
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#252574 - 08/20/04 04:51 PM
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 177
Loc: Shelton Wa.
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Don't know about the yellow mark, but I have caught kings with white meat and we always referred to them as white kings. Personally I do not like the flavor of the meat off the white kings but some people do.
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#252575 - 08/20/04 05:41 PM
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Fry
Registered: 07/21/04
Posts: 32
Loc: Puget Sound
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Three Tree Pt....White meat....I wasn't big on the taste but I was also mentally wondering if it was safe to eat which might have effected my judgement on the flavor....Thank you for the input.
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#252576 - 08/20/04 09:14 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 02/28/02
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Loc: Marine Area 13
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Genetic fat mark I am guessing.
Seems all my fish have this mark this year. Doubt it would be a hatchery mark. With a missing adipose, that would mean double work for hatchery workers.
Maybe Salma can help out.
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#252578 - 08/20/04 09:28 PM
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River Nutrients
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It's like wearing a black band of solidarity. The kings are organizing.
White kings: there is also a run in the Skagit.
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#252579 - 08/21/04 02:06 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 09/15/03
Posts: 166
Loc: Eye-Of-The-Sun
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I'm going to ask a biologist at the hatchery. I think it is a mark to indicate something. I saw Squaxin natives scanning fish heads with a wand (yes, scanning with a wand) and I saw those yellow dots on quite a few fish. The dots are pretty obvious and I wouldn't confuse them with that naturally occurring yellow they get from something, (Nitrogen?) right around the gillplates (Onchorhyncus-Tsawytcha fungus?).
White Kings are well known. I'd agree thast they taste 'different'. The meat and flavor seem softer to me, from the couple I've eaten.
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#252580 - 08/21/04 02:24 AM
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:rolleyes:
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#252581 - 08/21/04 02:39 AM
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I think white kings taste great, some of them better than red meat kings. I caught one white and red king today and the white king goes on the Q tomorrow, the red will be smoked. Alot of winter blackmouth that I have caught , which feed primarily on squid, were white kings. The flesh color is based on thier diet. More squid in their diet=whiter flesh. More shrimp in the diet=redder flesh. I have only caught 1 white returing fish until today. This hen wasn't all white, just predominately white with some red flesh, I guess you could call the meat marbled. She liked to mix it up!
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#252582 - 08/21/04 12:54 PM
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River Nutrients
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I've caught many white kings at Sekiu some over 30#. They tasted great on the BBQ to me and it is actually nice to have a different flavor of salmon once in a while.
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#252583 - 08/22/04 12:11 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 15
Loc: Lk. Stevens
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We caught several kings in Barkley(sp) Sound a few years back with this yellow spot. The biologist told us that they were from the Columbia River... It sounded good to us!!
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#252584 - 08/22/04 12:50 AM
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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Have caught kings and silvers with the yellow spots of varying size from dime size to silver dollar. I have seen this in the Columbia, Grays Harbor, and Westrport. Thirty one seasons of fishing river kings in Alaska.... never seen the golden blemish! Could it be something unique to fish originating from the PNW?
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#252585 - 08/22/04 02:04 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 08/21/04
Posts: 11
Loc: Brown's Point,WA
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Canadian hatcheries mark thier fish with a yellow dye put on the lower rear portion of the fish...Ive heard. And the white kings are completely safe , they are a little more fatty I think than normal kings.
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#252586 - 08/22/04 02:18 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 19
Loc: hockinson
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the reason they use a wand to scan fish is to detect a coded wire tag! it basically detects any metal in the fish, i.e. hooks and or a coded wire tag.
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#252587 - 08/22/04 01:11 PM
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Registered: 10/24/03
Posts: 310
Loc: graham wa.
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Caught a 18# white king off of the clay banks back in late june. tasted great.
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