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#256098 - 09/29/04 12:05 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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It will be used to challnge the treaties. Wheather it is successful or not is the question. That is why the tribes fought so hard to gain possesion. A caucasiod predating the "native Americans" throws the whole "original" people intent of the treaties into question legally.
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#256099 - 09/29/04 01:06 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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how IS the wheather up there anyway?
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#256100 - 09/29/04 01:14 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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It's good H20 really good.

This is an old story and there are several law firms already working on the case. Only the naive believe that the law is about right and wrong. You will see the ground work for the evidence publically and a lawsuit with in 5 to 10 years. Why? there is a lot of money at stake. Where there is money you will find attys. Whether it will be successful or not again is the question.
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#256101 - 09/29/04 01:16 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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#256102 - 09/29/04 01:38 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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If they do overturn any treaties (I doubt it), it will remind most people of all the thousands of other treaties that were signed and deliberatley shat upon by the U.S. gov many years ago.
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#256103 - 09/29/04 01:46 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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Whatever, I'd just like to see everyone starting to live in the 21st century and the problems we're faced with today, not the 19th and issues that no longer exist.
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#256104 - 09/29/04 01:46 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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King

King

Must be hot in Graceland again today
;\)
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#256105 - 09/29/04 02:07 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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TC,
The issues from the 19th will remain until probably the 22nd century. I just dont think politicians will want that kind of "pigeon holed" rep.
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#256106 - 09/29/04 02:10 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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Lt,

I did not give my personal opinion. I just stated some facts that I am aware of. There are many other industries besides fishing that would like to see the treaty rights revised if not reversed. It's all about money.
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#256107 - 09/29/04 04:35 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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i think he's still trying to figure out 'wheather' or not you're serious is all.
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#256108 - 09/29/04 05:01 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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H20


"i" edited the spelling did you fix your error?
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#256109 - 09/29/04 05:05 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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dude, you missed the joke three times in a row and you're going to cast grammatical aspersions now?


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#256110 - 09/29/04 05:15 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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H20,

Your life must really be slow ,Dude!
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#256111 - 09/29/04 05:41 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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Back to our regularly scheduled program.
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#256112 - 09/29/04 08:25 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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seattle times had an article a couple years ago on the possible polynesian skull found in california ...but also remember that the voyage of the kon tiki showed it was possible that there was also migration from south america into the pacific islands as well as from the west..and that people also could have sailed from africa to south america....

also...when they say kennewick man was 'caucasian' they don't mean in the 'viking' sense but more like the Ainu of northern japan...

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#256113 - 09/29/04 08:36 PM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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oh yeah...'buhl woman' woman found in idaho was more 'polynesian' than indian as well....dated around 10000 years ago as well...

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#256114 - 09/30/04 01:09 AM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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The K-man was a white guy. Never be able to prove it though. I had a professor at UW last year that actually got to look him over. The indians really did a number on the scientists.... they filled his "coffin" up with cedar branches and other voodo. It really messed things up for testing. The worst part of the whole deal is the Army Core burried the site so that they couldnt find any artifacts to assosiate him to europe. He obviously died form a spear point, but it was from indians with the forsight to protect their fishing/treaty rights.

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#256115 - 09/30/04 01:39 AM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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So lets get this straight... the same morons that could not support WSR are now on board to support Kennewick man as a means to stop tribal netting ???

Wow... You guys are a cartoon of how to screw things up....
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#256116 - 09/30/04 01:51 AM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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Yep, my guess is that he was a white guy too. This earth is a very old place and many different groups of folks have come and gone...us included some day.

I do find it interesting, however, that Lewis and Clark in their journals of 1805-6 while traveling west repeatedly mentioned the Indians keen interest in seeing "white men"...most had never seen a white man before...or a colored man for that matter, also part of the LC Party. This certainly suggests that if there was a time when white dudes shared inhabitance with indians (as the KM remains suggest) that it had been "a long time" (beyond the memory of the indians LC were meeting) since any indian had seen them.

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#256117 - 09/30/04 02:03 AM Re: Kennewick Man, white?
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Never forget that when Lewis and Clark encountered the Indians on the Columbia river they offered them discount smokes... fireworks.. and an open invatation to gamble at their casinos... in their usuall and accustomed way...
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