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#257011 - 10/04/04 01:19 PM Big Chief Smokers
RiverMan Offline
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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 488
Loc: oregon
I have a Big Chief that is two years old. When I first got the thing it worked wonderful but after awhile it didn't seem to get as hot. I then went and bought a new element for it and tried again...same story. I use a large blanket over the top of the entire contraption but it still isn't getting hot enough. Yesterday I had to take the fish out and put them in a the oven, huge hassle. Wondering if others are having the same problem with this smoker...it's just not hot enough.

RM

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#257012 - 10/04/04 01:39 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
barnettm Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
I have had this problem and solved it by lighting 3-4 charcoal briquets in the pan.

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#257013 - 10/04/04 01:46 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I had these same problems with the little chief and the big chief.I solved the problem by building an out house style smoker that is fueled by a wood stove and fresh alder.I can control the temp in any weather instead of having the smoker control me and my time.I realize lots of people can't run one of these @ some of there homes but boy it's made a huge difference in the smoking.If you have the resources to set up,I'd go for it.Good luck,
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#257014 - 10/04/04 02:13 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Koho King Offline
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Registered: 09/10/03
Posts: 109
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
I've got a little chief and I thought that they're not supposed to get too hot. It does take some extra time to dry the fish out.

You aren't using an extension cord for it, right? They don't recommend it because the cord decreases the amount of energy reaching the chief.
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#257015 - 10/04/04 03:48 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Rivernut Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 135
Try leaving the box on it.( If you have a top loader.) Cut out a hole for the cord and a slot for the pan. Helps bring it up to temp alot better. BTW you may want to put tin foil in the bottom of the box to keep from burning a hole in it.
Has worked great for me.
NUT

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#257016 - 10/04/04 05:05 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
B-RUN STEELY Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
I concure with leaving the box on. They don't get real hot to start with so you just have to take more time. Also noticed that when you put it back in your garage your garage will smell like smoked fish 24/7 forever because of the box. There are less pleasant scents for sure.
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#257017 - 10/04/04 08:59 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Terrapin Offline
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Registered: 06/29/04
Posts: 179
Loc: Tacoma
Well its not really an answer to your question but it might help... I broke out the Little Chief this year and (surprise...) the element needed replacement again. So I saw at Lowes that they had Brinkmann Charcoal smokers on sale. That is what we used up at the lodge to smoke fish and I always liked that charcoal system. Anyways the new fish smokes fish (silvers) to a perfect consistency in 2-3 hours. I love it and am glad I bought it this year. I have been smoking fish like crazy now.

My point is that instead of buying another element or messing with the Little/Big Chiefs maybe you might want to look into the Brinkmann Gourmet Charcoal smokers. I paid $44 here at the Lowes in Tacoma.

CF

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#257018 - 10/04/04 10:28 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
AJ Hartwell Offline
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Registered: 09/19/04
Posts: 276
Loc: Duvall, Wa.
Hmmm... I just bought a brand new Big Chief smoker a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully mine doesn't stop working correctly as many of you have indicated often happens.

Aaron

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#257019 - 10/05/04 12:45 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
RiverMan Offline
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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 488
Loc: oregon
Well you guys gave me some things to think about. Aaron I hope yours holds out better than mine has. I don't know why they don't put a better element in the things, doesn't make sense. I will try insulating with the box and see if that helps, otherwise I am in the market for a new smoker.

Thanks again.

RM

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#257020 - 10/05/04 01:10 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Raft-Cat Offline
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Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 85
Loc: North Bend, WA
Had a small little chief smoker for quite a while with the box on and it done a pretty good job till the element failed. Bought a bigger one to use out side and it never got hot enough so I nestled it in fiberglass insulation and it works o.k. I then built a smoker from a frig, and it works great. Be advised that there is a certain minimum temp your smoker should obtain. Smokers are built like car batteries, to last a certain length of time! Raft-Cat

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#257021 - 10/05/04 10:11 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
RiverMan Offline
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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 488
Loc: oregon
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I understand the temperature must reach 160 degrees (F) to be certain of curing the meat properly. I don't know if this is "meat" temp or an "air" temp. That's what concerns me about the "Chief" smokers. I am willing to be that they often don't get anywhere near this temp.

RM

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#257022 - 10/05/04 10:35 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Led Offline
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Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 159
Loc: Key Peninsula
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#257023 - 10/05/04 11:00 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
R Ridgeway Offline
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Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 286
Loc: Seattle
I used a little Chief for 12 years and now have used a Big Chief about 10 years. Had the same problem with lack of heat and have used the cardboard box they come in or constructed another one myself. If it's really cold out I pull the box all the way down over the smoker and if it's not so cold out will pull it down part way. If you don't get your smoker quite hot enough it will cause cracking on the surface and the insides will be underdone. I'm on my third element on my Big Chief and get about 3-4 years per element. Needless to say you can't see any silver on the inside!!

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#257024 - 10/06/04 01:15 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
RiverMan Offline
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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 488
Loc: oregon
Ridgeway,

That is what I am trying this eve, with the box on I mean. How long do you find it takes to smoke a salmon in the BC? I cut my filets into sections that are about 4" wide or so. Thx.

RM

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#257025 - 10/06/04 04:22 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Rivernut Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 135
Depends on outside temps. It has been 50 to 55 degrees lately.
I would say 4 to 6 hours if they are not too thick.
Leave them alone for the first 4 hours, only adding wood. 2 to 3 pans should do the trick. Check the fish after 4 1\2 or so. Remember the fridge can be used to dry them out a little, just leave the fish open for a few days if it is a little soft. But over done will allways be boot leather. good luck.
Nut

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#257026 - 10/06/04 08:27 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
R Ridgeway Offline
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Registered: 12/04/99
Posts: 286
Loc: Seattle
Riverman, With the box mostly over the entire smoking unit it takes about 4-6 hours depending on outside temp and thickness of chunks. I just smoked-up a couple batches of Kodiak Cohos in the 10-12 lb range with each fillet cut into 3 pieces. I put the fish in (larger pieces on lower racks) with the first pan of chips and let it go 1.5 hours then load a second pan of chips and let go for another 1.5 hours. I then bring the rack out of my toploading Big Chief and inspect for doneness. If the bottom racks are cooking much faster than the upper racks I will switch rack positions at this point. I press lightly on the fish to check doneness along with appearance. The meat will firm up as it gets closer to done. I then put the adjusted racks back in the smoker for a 3rd pan of chips. If some pieces were near done at the 3 hour inspection I will come back and check when the 3rd load of chips quit smoking (about 1 hour). I will take pieces out that are done and let the remaining pieces keep going. I pretty much do the Big Chief deluxe wet brine recipe except using brown sugar instead of white. I like my smoked fish on the moist side so I'm a bit finiky about not over-cooking.

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#257027 - 10/06/04 09:07 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
RiverMan Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 488
Loc: oregon
Hey thanks for the info Ridgeway and others!
I used the box trick last night on some coho filets and it worked perfectly! I also layed an old blanket over the box for additional insulation and it took about 6 hours to complete. For those interested I use a dry brine. I cover each filet with sugar, salt, black pepper and some dried onion. After that I put the filets in the smoker for one pan of chips and let dry. It's absolutely delicious everytime and best of all you don't have to wait for the meat to marinate.

Thanks again!

RM

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#257028 - 10/07/04 03:14 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
FishDoctor Offline
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Registered: 12/05/02
Posts: 519
Hi guys,
The box works well but remember that they can catch fire sometimes. Last year I remember hearing of one fire down in Portland that was caused by a smoker. Dont put them near the house if the box is on.
happy smokin, good H20.
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#257029 - 10/07/04 11:46 AM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Old Chum Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/21/99
Posts: 131
Loc: Everett, WA, USA
Tried out the Big Chief last night and it worked well. I think the extension cord does make a difference. I plugged directly into an outlet last night and it seemed like things were getting hotter. I put the box over the top as well and at 4 hrs my coho was done. Plenty hot.

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#257030 - 10/07/04 12:22 PM Re: Big Chief Smokers
Theking Offline
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 4756
Loc: The right side of the line
If you are cooking than hot you are not really smoking the fish but in fact cooking it and adding a little smoked flavor. Cuts down on storage life and quality. My fish is in my smoker for no less than 24 hours. I do not add smoke that whole time but the meat is dried more than cooked. It never gets above 110 degrees.
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