#257800 - 10/12/04 06:45 PM
Cataract Oar Question
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Spawner
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I have a set of Cataract oars. Over time it appears that the protective coating has worn off the shafts. Every time I use them I get fibers on me and it itches. Has anyone else had this problem, and what did you do about it? Any help would be appreciated.
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#257802 - 10/12/04 10:18 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Bob, do you use the counter-balanced oars, and if so, do they really help save your shoulders. I ask because I have had shoulder surgery and am looking for a way to row, without adding to the pain. Thanks, Fishy.........
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#257803 - 10/12/04 10:30 PM
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No counter-balanced for me. A properly set up catract should not feel that heavy in the hands ... counterbalanced oars need weight to balance. Even though that weight is in the top, it makes the oar heavy overall in your stroke, and I don't much care for that!
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#257804 - 10/12/04 10:45 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Bob is CORRECT! I hate that I know this. I am in fact studying for the PE exam later this month at this very momment (at least I'm supposed to be). The concept Bob describes is called the Mass Moment of Inertia, defined as follows: I=mL^2/12, where L is the length of the slender rod (or oar) and m is the mass of the oar. Increase the mass by counter balancing, the numerator increases as does the Momment of Inertia. Do you want to talk Work & Energy, next? Someone shoot me please.
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#257805 - 10/12/04 11:11 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Thanks, being a new guy to the drift boat crowd I like to ask these questions. Just like when I was going to get a pair of oar rights, my buddy told me that when you have them, and your anchored up it swings the boat back and forth, so he doesn't like them. Took his word for it and didn't get them. I am sure that i will have many more questions in the future................Fishy.
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#257807 - 10/13/04 12:23 AM
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SOTD: NOW you tell us!
I too have bad shoulder(s), and bought the counter-balanced ClackaCraft PowerStroke oars to take some of the stress off. Yes, Bob is correct in that they are heavy...but I am hoping that 9' oars on my 13'6" wood drifter will work OK..and that the counter-balances are managable.
Any way to "un" counter-balance a set?
Mike
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#257810 - 10/13/04 07:18 AM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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I don't really care for oar rites. I have found that when back trolling, you often want to feather the oars so that you dont take a full stroke. Not possible with oar rites. Someone else brings up a good question on this tread, how far apart do you like to have your hands when rowing. I like them close. As far as counter balanced oars, I have a set of Sawyer hybrid counter balanced oars and these are great while actually back trolling, but suck the rest of the time. I most often use Sawyer lites.
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#257811 - 10/13/04 09:52 AM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Spawner
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Loc: Everett, Wa, USA
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Thanks for the info Bob. Guess I better head to the hardware store.
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#257812 - 10/13/04 02:23 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Bob, to clear that up, my buddy says that the boat swings way to much if you are anchored in current. He also mentioned the culling motion when you don't want the whole blade vertical in the water.
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#257813 - 10/13/04 03:43 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Repeat Spawner
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Once I put on the oarights the boat became more stable when on anchor, this is why I bought them. I also cut about a inch off of them, so when I am back trolling the oarights are above the oar locks and are not making concact.
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#257815 - 10/14/04 09:27 AM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Interesting ,thanks for the advice.
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#257817 - 10/14/04 01:19 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Spawner
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I think that Outdoor Emporium sells the Sawyer products.
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#257819 - 10/14/04 03:30 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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I agree on keeping the oar rites up higher on the shaft so they do not have an affect on your ability to feather. They are a must when anchored in fast water to keep your boat from wagging it's tail.
Bob, I too had an old pair of Cat's that the coating had come off of and would leave you with glass in your hands. I had some System Three epoxy left over from building the wood boat. I called Cataract and they said just paint them with the epoxy. I did, and it worked sweet. They'll easily last another 10 years.
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#257820 - 10/21/04 04:18 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Parr
Registered: 12/26/02
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Loc: Everett
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FYI
Oar-rite now makes oar stops with the key half as long. The only place I have found them is at Fishcraft.
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#257821 - 10/21/04 04:27 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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For those running the Sawyer Lights
Are you running the wood or composite ones?
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#257823 - 10/21/04 07:54 PM
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Sol, you had better get back to the studies. If you don't pass you'll be spending all your time looking for a job and not on the rivers.
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#257825 - 10/22/04 11:57 AM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Duc:
Been looking at those handles, and it seems the weights are sealed in there under a wood plug that sits just below where the paddle connects. I don't want to tear these up to un-balance them.
Might be best I use them as-is for now, and if I don't like them I can always take them back to ClackaCraft and have them fix them up for me. I travel down there on business about once a month, and the 9' oars fit well enough in the Buick when the paddle/handle is separated.
Your testing for your PE? Is there a difference between a mechanical PE and a Electrical PE test?
Mike
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#257827 - 10/22/04 12:40 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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Yes Sol I have better things to do, but I just love messin with ya! As a matter of fact I've cancelled my Tompson river trip, so I can go back to the cabin. I'll try to stop by this evening!
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#257828 - 10/22/04 01:36 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Gold Bar
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Sol
Those are what I have, the Wood Sawyer Lights in 9 foot. I like them I just need a third one for a spare.
Anyone got a cheap 9 foot Sawyer Light for sale?
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#257830 - 10/22/04 03:32 PM
Re: Cataract Oar Question
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River Nutrients
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Sol That could work for me until I get a full size spare. I have a set of row boat oars I can use. Good idea
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