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#262639 - 11/29/04 08:19 PM How is your liver doing?
h2o Offline
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Loc: Portland
Mine's fine thanks.
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#262640 - 11/29/04 08:26 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Capt.Dan Offline
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Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
Ever have a liver biopsy? Real fun. Make your liver quiver!
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#262641 - 11/29/04 08:30 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 03/10/01
Posts: 570
Loc: Snohomish, WA, USA
It survivied my early twenties, so all-in-all I'd say not half bad.

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#262642 - 11/29/04 08:31 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
no but I've seen them performed ....

....yeeeeeouch!!
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#262643 - 11/29/04 08:53 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Capt.Dan Offline
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Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
I can tell you from a first hand perspective it's scary. And it when they offerd me a second one I said "no thanks". My motto, love your liver!
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#262644 - 11/29/04 09:20 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Aintskunked Offline
Parr

Registered: 02/20/04
Posts: 44
Loc: Lakewood, WA
I think mine are ok, they aint said nothing yet
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#262645 - 11/29/04 09:35 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Sol Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
Mine's been better. ;\)

If it gets much bigger I'll have to check it as baggage at the airport next time I travel. \:D Now, if you'll excuss me, it's cocktail hour. \:\)

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#262646 - 11/29/04 11:13 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Kyle_A Offline
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Registered: 12/03/00
Posts: 657
Three years of sobriety has put mine back in ok shape. Was pretty scarry for a while though. Nothing like the thought of dying from it to make you think about how you treat your body.

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#262647 - 11/29/04 11:17 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
escapee Offline
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Registered: 09/20/00
Posts: 572
Loc: Marysville, Wa., USA
I'm givin' mine a workout right now!

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#262648 - 11/29/04 11:33 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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River Nutrients

Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Don't fret-I'm Irish!
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#262649 - 11/30/04 01:10 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 2314
Loc: elma washington
i pickled mine
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#262650 - 11/30/04 02:29 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
fuzzy Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/24/04
Posts: 101
Loc: port orchard
liver?
is that what i puked up last night?
hmm
i'd a got a better look this morning
but the dog ate it
damn
i was hoping we had disposable gizzards

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#262651 - 11/30/04 02:54 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
Index Hooker Offline
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Registered: 02/04/03
Posts: 84
Loc: index
i would rather not think about it, thank you very much. :
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#262652 - 11/30/04 10:25 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
troller Offline
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Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 608
Loc: Renton , WA
Yum elk liver and onions. Dang I better grab another beer the doc took a sample and told me I am starting to get blood in my alcohol steam .

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#262653 - 11/30/04 04:29 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Dave D Offline
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
Pickled for preservation ;\)
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#262654 - 11/30/04 08:18 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 06/17/04
Posts: 313
Loc: South Sound
Can you say Lipitor? Worked wonders on mine as well as the cholesterol!

DOGOFF!
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#262655 - 11/30/04 08:24 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Bob Offline

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Registered: 03/05/99
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Loc: Forks, WA & Soldotna, AK
Damn near fried it in my college years ... but 15 years w/o any alcohol, so hopefully it's doing a little better. Cholesterol of 138 ... more bacon please!!!!!!!
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#262656 - 11/30/04 08:33 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13502
I have absolutely no idea. I've never had a physical. I don't know if I have any cholesterol, let alone how much. I guess my blood pressure is low enough. A nurse checked it once and asked if I was alive. My resting heart rate after walking 3 blocks to donate blood was 50 a couple years ago. I think my general health, liver included, is good. But I've never had anything checked out. But I've been planning to . . . .

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#262658 - 11/30/04 08:49 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
SKYSTEELHEAD Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 12/01/03
Posts: 1011
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
I had two shots of Hennessy X.O. and some margaritas per day all last week on vacation.
I hope I didn't fry anything, would like to stay healthy to enjoy rowing my Lavro for decades to come. \:D

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#262659 - 11/30/04 09:12 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Sol Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7477
Loc: Poulsbo
Cholesterol of 360 the first time I had it checked a couple of years ago. Diet and exercise didn't do it. I'm on the pill. Still around 200: ratio of 5. Not good but the best I can do (family history, ya-know). \:\(

I just hope I'm playing a bid steelie when I finally arch. \:\)

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#262660 - 11/30/04 09:24 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
AkKings Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/13/00
Posts: 1830
Loc: Kelso Wa.
Haven't had a drink since August, I'm so dry my liver thinks my throats been cut!

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#262661 - 11/30/04 09:55 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Duck In The Fog Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
I'm on the list for a new one. Old one is kaputtt. It is a bit scary and sad for a lot of you really do abuse your liver and take it for granted but with help from above it won't have a adverse effect in your life. I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching. The Duck

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#262662 - 11/30/04 10:14 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 2449
Loc: Portland
I thought about you ten posts into this thread and wondered how you were doing...

...to your good health, i raise this frosty root beer.



its all i got
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#262663 - 11/30/04 10:29 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Loc: brier,wa
I used to think I could hear gurgling and spitting coming from the general area of my liver...reminded me of a bubbling pot of soup. Not really but it was a frequent visual when finishing off the 24 pack...Now the Diet Pepsi bores the hell out of me.
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#262664 - 11/30/04 10:49 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
Let me be the first here to encourage all to get tested for Hepatitis-C I did and do. It is one of the fastest growing diseases in the country. Many have it and don't know. If you drink alcohol and have the virus you are causing great damage to your liver. It's not just an IV drug users problem as is widely thought. The virus is ten thousand times more virulent outside the body than is HIV. That means if I poke myself with a fish hook and an hour later you poke yourself with it, you will be infected. Right now I am taking Interferon injections and a host of other meds. If I am luck it will go into remission. If you give blood at a blood bank they test you automatically. The next time you go to the doctor tell him you want to be tested, it may save your life. Better yet go donate blood and save another if you don't test positive.
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#262665 - 11/30/04 11:04 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Kyle_A Offline
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Registered: 12/03/00
Posts: 657
Duck, I think of you every time I see this subject come up. It is amazing how we abuse ourselves until we get sick. I couldn't believe how sick I got before I quit drinking. Fortunately my liver wasn't too far gone. I pray you find the donor you need.

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#262666 - 11/30/04 11:05 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
charr Offline
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Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
My doctor told me that drinking alcohol was bad for the liver. So I quit eating the stuff!

P.S. Duc, I hope everything works out for you!

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#262667 - 11/30/04 11:43 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Duck In The Fog Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
Capt. Don I am also infected with Hep.C but my liver is too far gone for interferon. Doc at UW said if I was to use it now it would kill me. By the way his name Prof. Bruce Tung. I sure don't want to put a damper on this subget but it might help others try a little harder at being more careful on there liver.

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#262668 - 12/01/04 02:24 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
Raft-Cat Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/27/03
Posts: 85
Loc: North Bend, WA
Livers?

I come from a family of LONG LIVERS!

My Grandpa had a liver a yaarrd long!

Raft-Cat

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#262669 - 12/01/04 01:04 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Capt.Dan Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
Quote:
Originally posted by Duck In The Fog:
Capt. Don I am also infected with Hep.C but my liver is too far gone for interferon. Doc at UW said if I was to use it now it would kill me. By the way his name Prof. Bruce Tung. I sure don't want to put a damper on this subget but it might help others try a little harder at being more careful on there liver.
Duck- I feel your pain Brother! I wish you ALL the luck in the world.
Have you tried the Milk Thistle Tea? I hear good things about that.
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#262670 - 12/01/04 03:13 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Duck In The Fog Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
Capt.Don I was informed about milkthistle about 6months a go. Brought up at liver transplant class that all future reciepients have to take. Was informed that no test have been done to find out what reaction it has with other drugs. So they advised not to take it. It also read on the bottle "to maintain a healthy liver" In my case there is no heathy liver to treat.
Thank you for all the input that you have been giving me. Jim Marquis (The Duck)

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#262671 - 12/01/04 05:57 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
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Registered: 05/10/02
Posts: 85
Loc: Seattle, WA
People, people, people! If you want info on HCV or general liver health, Try Johns-Hopkins or the CDC websites, not this one.

Per Johns-Hopkins, needle stick transmission among healthcare workers is between 3-5%. Milk thistle likely does no harm, but has not been scientifically proven to do anything.
How long the virus lives outside the body has not been scientifically established.

Duck, I grew up in Yakima, we might even recognize one another. Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery.

Capt. Dan, How goes the combo therapy? I am considering starting in the near future. I know the side-effects can be rough. what's your experience been like.

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#262672 - 12/01/04 08:41 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Capt.Dan Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
First of all let me say that the University of Washington has a study on Milk Thistle RIGHT now. And I have met two people that it reduced their viral load to an undetectable level. So there is some evidence that it DOES work.

I have been on the combination therapy for one month now. I put it of for various reasons. The most significant one was to start a family. Great success there. At first I could not even tell that I took a shot of Interferon, then it hit me like a ton of bricks. I felt real bad for the next two days after my injection. You just feel like hell. When I went in for my lab tests they discovered that I had reduced my white blood cell count to the bottom of the low range. I started injecting NEUPOGEN to boost white cells and it has gone back up. Today I feel PRETTY GOOD! A welcome relief. The drugs have many side effects, one of them blurry vision, and depression. Honestly, it makes you a little emotional. Some people get real depressed and want to commit suicide. I don't feel that way. They give you Prozac if you do. The main thing I would suggest is to be prepared, and talk about it.

The worst part is giving yourself the shots. It just reminds you of what you are going through, and that it may not even work.

Good luck to you if and when you start your treatment. If their is anything I can do don't hesitate to ask.
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#262673 - 12/01/04 11:21 PM Re: How is your liver doing?
Duck In The Fog Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
Capt. Don -I'm sure I would not like to go through the therapy that you are going through. It is my understanding that therapy is not a option for my liver. Too far gone and must be replaced. Not sure what I'll go through when it comes to anti-rejection drugs, it might not be fun. The Duck

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#262674 - 12/02/04 12:11 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
Capt.Dan Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 151
Loc: Gig Harbor Washington
First things first! Think positive thoughts.
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#262675 - 12/02/04 07:57 AM Re: How is your liver doing?
Duck In The Fog Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/02/99
Posts: 453
Loc: Yakima Wa. U.S.A.
Sorry !!!! My eyes are not the greatest. All along I should have referred to you as CAPT.Dan THe Dumb Duck

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