Better yet make my friend a state employee and you all can pay for my HIV treatment

don't forget to stop by the closest public school and stock up on condoms..also stop by the DSHS office and have one of the fine employees there fix you up with instructions on how to squeeze out all the free services and money you can from the state..afterall you will be discriminated against as soon as you marry your buddy..You'll be a minority!!!

Aunty,
I believe that to be a classic case of Strap-on envy?

Oh, Papaslap could get on his wife's policy for maybe $10 a day, But then should the Doctor that she works for go out of business , perhaps due to too high insurance premiums Papa and his old lady would both be out of luck.

Butt maybe the old lady could find here own queer friend.

I can't imagine how you teachers out there are going to be comfortable teaching sex-ed to kids and explaining the new family structures and behavior.

AuntyM....I really don't buy into this "threatened" crap at all...or the term "homophobe"......Flaunting the fact that you are a lesbian and then acting typically hostile as most of them are makes me puke..that's all. not complicated.

I may just be an old bigit but I think that this whole deal is not really about being queer or not , it is about mayors changing the law.

If this is left to on unchallenged what's next?

Shelton Mayor says pot and cocaine use to be legal.

Boise Mayor legalizes the sale of assault weapons.

Partial birth abortions ok'ed in Portland.....and so on

Is the sky really falling?

Oh now I get it AuntyM.....If I support gay marriage and endorse tribal netting of wild fish I can have more credibility on fishing issues like you do. I will agree that speaking your mind has a price. Keeping silent and bowing to the loudest voices is just not my nature.

Now Marsha that is what I expect from you.
A sensible and honest answer which is correct. I will take that advise to heart much faster than the bigot accusation. I guess on the gay marriage issue I think it is the crying from the rooftop and the "in-your-face" nature of the "gay movement" that I object to. I work with alot of gay people and have had alot of loyal gay customers over the years. I don't agree with what they are doing and don't need to bash them as long as their "gayness" stays where it belongs and that is not in my face. The tribes deserve some tolerance if they are willing to sit down and be "comanagers" as they are so often called. My experience tells me that they still don't care about the resource on the whole. Some do but most don't. I expect that it is education for all of us that will turn the tide in many areas. I will try to keep the emotive attacks to a minimum....try to keep the name calling to a minimum if you can,too.

I would rather ignore both too but when Rosie ODonnell is on the nightly news kissing her new wife on the steps of the SF courthouse with the mayor applauding it is crap in my book. The gay "movement" is more political than anything these days. It just makes me tired. I am going to go back to finding a way to slow down the nets or stop them if I can.

The main point I was trying to make when I started this thread is that the mayor of SF is blatantly flaunting state law.

The state of CA overwhelmingly passed an initiative banning same-sex marriage. It was a one-issue initiative, plain as day and not open to "legal interpretation".

Just think if the mayor broke state law in a non "politically correct" way. Say he started licensing brothels to operate. He'd be booted out in a New York minute.

Did Y'all hear the latest???

Portland is the latest city to legalize gay marriage...

All I got to say is its a darn good thing salmon and steelhead aren't gay... they have enough problems let alone trying to reproduce with same sex mates!

:p

This is why we need an amendment ASAP.

Soon half the country will be sueing the other half.

Every lawyer's dream - a lawsuit-based economy.

Slab

It is very unlikely an amendment will happen. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats think an amendment will happen like Bush suggested.

What will most likely happen is the issue will be played out in the states. One state will make it legal and another state will make it illegal forcing the issue to go to the Supreme Court.

Oddly enough if the Constitution does get amended it will be the first time in history that it was amended to take away rights from a certain group of individuals rather then grant rights.

LT, What current rights would be taken away?

Slab

I believe it would be the right for them to get married. Granted it is illegal by state law but the constitution does not state that it is illegal.
So IMHO if they amend the constitution to say that same sex marriage is illegal that would be taking away the right for them to get married.

Hope that was not circular logic on my part

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http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/marriage.html

Papa

Didn't mean to get you worked up, it is ok if we disagree you know.....don't worry gay marriage won't ruin the world any more then the abolishment of slavery did.

Personally I couldn’t care one way or the other which way the issue plays out. However one thing I know is that all things change. People either don’t like change or they are afraid of it but that doesn’t stop the inevitable, change will occur, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse.

Thanks for the article
LT

What is the world coming to ? I guess I am an old fashioned sort of guy since I can't seem to see why some people are inclined to be "gay" ... I am pretty sure I am not a bigot and I am not afraid of "gay" people so I am not a Homophobe... I must just have enough intestinal fortitude to stand my ground when I see something this morally disgusting. I really believe that I shouldn't have homosexual lifestyle choices being forced upon me and my children on the evening news and primetime TV shows, so I dont watch them or let me children watch them .... This argument could go on forever but one thing is pretty clear to me, there are only two sides to this issue , you are either for or against it .... there are no in between or gray areas .... If you dont have to the morals to stand up against something that is morally wrong , than you might as well be on the other side of the fence..... In my eyes Tolerance and Acceptance are pretty much the same thing when it comes to moral issues...... Just my opinion... Von Warner

That's exactly how I felt during the race riots. I didn't like my kids having to decide whether to be black or white so I didn't let them watch television, etc. :rolleyes:

Oh, you mean people are actually born black or white? Wow, who'd a thunk?