#267129 - 05/19/04 05:42 PM
Kerry has a new advisor
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Kerry wants to release and or stop filling the national oil reserves to ease prices. He consulted his top advisor Spongebob Squarepants before making the announcement today.
Tomorrow he will consult the Amazing Kreskin at the local waffle house as he tries to explain his decison on this matter and attempts to make it seem that he meant something else.
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#267130 - 05/19/04 06:02 PM
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King, If you would be so kind as to let me offer you a bit of friendly advice: Don't quit your day job. You are almost as inept at humor as you are at recalling historical facts, composing cogent, intelligible posts, or hell... making ANY sense at all for that matter!
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#267131 - 05/20/04 10:52 AM
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Salt,
What is really not funny is you guys pushing such an idiot.
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#267132 - 05/20/04 11:50 AM
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I don't know...looking at the Bush followers here sure makes Kerry, or anybody else, look pretty good.
By the way, dipping into the reserves has been done before under several presidencies and dropped the price of gas dramatically the same week the dipping started. I remember when Clinton did it and Bush was furious. Oil buddies weren't profiting as much. You do understand that it's our oil don't you? So what situation do you keep reserves for if not this? We have war and high prices (gouging). The two combo's normally given as justification to keep reserves.
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#267133 - 05/20/04 12:05 PM
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Stlhd,
Back up you Oil profit claims with some facts please. The cost has risen with the price. The oil companies are trying to secure more soucres un case the Mideast heats up. refineries are old and fixed in production ammounts due to environmental regulation.
Typical Americans want evrything cheap and now with out regard to reality. Whats Kerrys paln. Drain the reserves and allow opec, the Russians and S. America to dictate pricies.
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#267135 - 05/20/04 12:23 PM
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How about you do your own search and refute it? I'll start you out: http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/040519/1085000520_2.html Stock symbols to begin with: XOM, BP, CVX. Sure don't see revenue or share prices declining do you?
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#267136 - 05/20/04 12:24 PM
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Dang AM beat me to it.
TK you really need to crawl out from under that rock and open your eyes.
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#267137 - 05/20/04 12:25 PM
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Am,
Show us the P&L's please ,on a 5 year over year comparison. We will need to see the recaptures and investments in new production to be fair. and We all know how stock prices reflect profit dollar for dollar,NOT!. Nice switch to the victim role BTW.
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#267138 - 05/20/04 12:28 PM
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Stlhd,
Show us some of your financial prowess,please. What good is revenue with out the expense lines and forecast for future expenses vs. earnings?
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#267140 - 05/20/04 12:41 PM
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TK, it's all there for your browsing leasure. It's one of those rare industries where if you have a production problem, a fake refinery shutdown, you actually make more money. Do your homework.
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#267141 - 05/20/04 12:54 PM
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AM,
I am no the one claiming and industry is involved in a scheme and that a president is allowing the Oil industry to rape the people. So the ones making the accusations have to prove it. You cannot and you do not know where to start do you? Maybe you could find something in google to post but you would not know what it meant. it's easier to lie as is your character to make a point in calling the other guy a liar rather than to post subsantive un biased proof.
Stlhd,
Now it's a scheme and a conspiracy in a long list of them the past 4 years. Do you also think the oil companies paid OPEC to raise prices? Admit it you read something and have never looked at the financials of any oil company? You do not even have a clue how either side of a balance sheet works do you? You are just a simpleton being manipulated and you do not even know how to educate your way out of it and form an educated opinion of your own. Everything is a conspiracy the less education one has.
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#267142 - 05/20/04 01:01 PM
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TK, you sure like to put words into peoples mouths. FYI, one of my degrees is in Finance. OPEC does not set prices they manipulate supply which is further manipulated here in the US. So, you prove to me that rising oil prices don't benefit oil companies. Bush has been filling up the oil reserves at these sky high prices using your tax dollar. Not getting much bang for your buck are you? Plus he refuses to release reserves in order to pump up supply and reduce prices. What don't you understand about that?
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#267144 - 05/20/04 01:13 PM
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Here's the potential real downside from Forbes magazine. Can we stand a further economic down turn?
"But these higher prices benefit producers such as OPEC nations and oil companies. Profits of major oil concerns like Exxon Mobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ), ChevronTexaco (nyse: CVX - news - people ) and BP (nyse: BP - news - people ) are up sharply in the past year, as are their share prices, which hit recent bottoms right at the start of the Iraq war, though that may be a coincidence.
The fortunes of oil services companies like Schlumberger (nyse: SLB - news - people ) and Halliburton (nyse: HAL - news - people ) have turned even more sharply. Schlumberger's share price is up by 48% since the start of the war; Halliburton's is up 42%, though it is still well below where it was at the time Dick Cheney, the company's former chief executive, became vice president of the United States. Wall Street is bullish for continued gains as Bear Stearns, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers have all in the past year upgraded their ratings for Halliburton shares.
The bad news is higher energy prices have often been harbingers of recessions. Oil and energy prices rose sharply in 1981, 1990 and 2000, and each time an economic downturn followed in their wake."
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#267145 - 05/20/04 01:20 PM
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AM, "You have already made threats to me"
You remain a Liar coward
"you will not be getting ahold of ANY financial records of mine. "
Never asked for them. I asked Stlhd to show the financials of the oil companies to prove his assertions and you butted in. So I asked you to do the same. So unless you are an oil company I did not ask for your financials. Learn to read before you make baseless accusations and then be prepared to back up your lies.
Stlhd,
Share prices are not financials and do not directly translate into profit and loss. Do the work youmight learn something before you accuse aomeone of something you do not even have the hint of a clue on.
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#267147 - 05/20/04 01:42 PM
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How's the air up there in "Fall City"?
For a guy that deletes his posts and denies it you sure are quick to call other people liars.
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#267148 - 05/20/04 01:43 PM
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AM,
Whats the matter you cannot take what you dish out? Another liberal trait. When will you apologize for the slander you posted about me ?
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#267149 - 05/20/04 01:47 PM
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H20,
I have never deleted a post and I beleive if I did it would show as revised? Let me know what you think I have deleted and I will retype it. I have no Idea how to delete a post or if you even can. Please back up your assertions.
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#267151 - 05/20/04 01:55 PM
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AM,
"If" "would" are a long strech for "Can" and "Will" or did you miss that day in 3rd grade english because you had to staple a new cardboard skirt around the singlewide?
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#267153 - 05/20/04 02:05 PM
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I've provided the ticker symbols and the financials are there for all the world to see. It's not open to interpretaion. Everyone, except you I guess, knows that rising oil prices benefit oil companies. I have made no accusation that I am aware of but I will make one I deem to be completely true. You, TK, for the most part post complete crap about things you know absolutely nothing about. When called on your BS you spin like there's no tomorrow and try to worm your way out of it, or attempt to deflect the argument you attempted to make into something completely irrelevant or you ask someone to try to disprove your complete baseless factless crap. Now there's an accusation which I obsolutely believe to be 100% truth. But you are welcome to prove me wrong with facts.
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#267154 - 05/20/04 02:10 PM
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Any bet's as to a response?
Is it:
A) "No that's what you are Stlhead" B) "See you can't spell you are stupid" or something similar. C) "Prove to me my posts are baseless and factless" D) A whole bunch of insults in return. E) something about Liberals. F) all of the above.
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