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#267806 - 06/14/04 06:44 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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I'm guessing it's that whole 9 months carrying and then labor thing. So the man should be able to force the woman to carry a child to term against her wishes?

How to solve the whole unwanted children/pregnancy abortion thing could quite possibly involve easy access to birth control but now we go down another religious belief slippery slope of hypocrisy.
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#267808 - 06/14/04 07:07 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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AM,

Well said and balanced.
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#267809 - 06/14/04 07:13 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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But they can never have the same rights since they can't give birth...well yet anyway. To be honest I really don't know what I think about abortion. I just feel it's a personal decision based upon your own personal beliefs and shouldn't be outlawed by government. But some of these same groups who are rabidly opposed are also opposed to birth control.
Preaching abstinence only is the ostrich approach. It sure didn't work for drugs.
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#267810 - 06/14/04 07:28 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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There has to be a better approach than killing the kid. The only choice should be birth or birth control because abstinance does not work. As far as I know only the Catholic church is against birth control.
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#267811 - 06/14/04 07:32 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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Maybe some day they will invent a method of live extraction/transplanting. A new method of adoption.
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#267813 - 06/14/04 07:39 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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I agree but then teenagers aren't known for thinking too far in advance about anything.
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#267815 - 06/14/04 08:32 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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That's because we (men) have all been raised (brainwashed) to "do the right thing" "do right by her" "take responsibility", etc. We've been raised to believe it's ultimately our fault and responsibility.
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#267817 - 06/14/04 10:43 PM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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Wait, wait, wait, let's go back a sec.

Quote:
Originally posted by AuntyM:
... and men get the choice of sex or no sex
That's exactly what I've been trying to tell my wife, but she's havin' none of it. \:D
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#267819 - 06/15/04 12:53 AM Re: What is a Lib.....?
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I think abortion is a necessary evil and something alot of men and women do and then regret. I just wish the argument would not degenarate into "pro-choice" and "pro-life".
Abortion is the termination of a life. Get over it. Sugar coating it to lessen the remorse and stigma is just plain dumb. There is a baby growing inside a woman and someone decides to terminate the baby. Done deal.

I was involved in an abortion at a very early age and didn't think much of it until later when I saw three daughters and one grandson born. My daughter and her husband should never have had a child at this time but the thought of killing what turned out to be my pride and joy in life is scary and really unthinkable. Abortion is too easy and so is marriage. So easy to terminate either one.
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