Sorry, Aunty-- I can't follow that. I have seen it stated here, though, that if something bad happens in regards to/with/for/by the federal government, then Bush is at fault--the "his watch" thing. If indeed that is the agreement, then the good that happens under "his watch" is his responsibility as well.

But I've stated my personal views elsewhere, that we shouldn't make politics and fisheries issues bedfellows because we'll all lose no matter who is in office.

H20-- Personally, I blame just about everybody for 9/11 going back for a couple of decades. I was on one of the hottest shallow-water, light-tackle silver bites I've ever had with Alaska-type action virtually within sight of my house on 9/11. It took me quite a while before fishing really seemed relevant.

Keith

this place needed a breath of fresh air Keith, thanks for showing up.

I agree wholeheartedly about the blame for 9/11, we should either share it as a nation or shut up. Its a bit irritating to me how many people forget the FIRST terrorist attck on us soil, and it struck the same damn target. Its as if it never even happened. We failed to learn the lesson...

I'm pretty sure we still haven't learned the lesson and are going to pay the price again, probably sooner than later.

I hope the result is far less spectacular. I nearly quit fishing after 9/11, certainly I quit posting about it.

H20

"I agree wholeheartedly about the blame for 9/11, we should either share it as a nation or shut up"


Whooooa there doggy! Do you forget your post of just a few weeks ago blaming American Imperialism and Jewish zionist for 9-11 Or are you just trrying to get a brown ring arouns your nose here?


Oh I forot it's Ok to play both sides when you are a liberal.

No, a moderate sees both sides.

A wacko sees their side only. They can be found in both parties.

Hope this helps.

Quote the post genius and the surrounding text.

Better yet just read it again, this time try comprehending.

"US imperialism, yes.

It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. First step: Admitting that its even our problem. Until we in the 'republic' take responsibility we will be fighting the war on terror."

Seems pretty clear you blame the Us for the terrorist actions. Kind of like balmeing the wife for the husband beating her ,yes? Little different than "everyone is to blame"

Never once have you said that the terrorist where to balme for their actions.

Spin it Biotch!!

...and the question was?

You have to pay attention to the question before you have any shot at comprehending the answer.

Its called listening, you should try it sometime.

The term dumbya....I like it

anyone got a 'WRONG!' tally goin for Elvis today?

someone's wearin the sombrero if you know what i mean.

funny H20 how when you get called out everyone else cannot read or comprehend. Maybe you should use more lyrics and inane cuts from insignificant new beat era icons in your post so you can claim a higher artistic and intellectual level as the reason you are so misunderstood. Or just buck up and say you said it and Crawdad home from there.

I'm not touching this today except to say unequivocally that you are a liar.

Everyone that reads here knows it, for a FACT.

Post my words in answer to a question I was never asked?

Hell will just be that much warmer for the piously reightous.

H20's second line of defense when cornered I am done with this topic outta here.


It's real clear H20 and You said it.Like I said Spin it Crawdaddio!


"US imperialism, yes.

It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. First step: Admitting that its even our problem. Until we in the 'republic' take responsibility we will be fighting the war on terror."

Damn, Elvis. I gotta come in here late at night just to 'splain things to youse?

H2O said: And he previously said:
Notice the use of the word we. To us Americans that means all of us Americans. Since WWII. That would include Dems, Reps, and in between. He even threw in the term republic. So to those of us that understand cohesive unity, his statements make perfect sense. To those out there that are afraid of a United America, it's incomprehensible.

And you said:
May I point out that never once has H2O said they weren't to blame. However, in our world we have a thing called personal responsibility. But I've learned the Bouche camp doesn't worry about that sort of thing.

thanks gh.

elvis-

Link that proves your an idiot.

The question posed to me by plunker was:

"stlhdh2o

Do you think the world would be a better place with the fall of the US republic?"

My complete answer was:

"Not exactly, Plunk.

US imperialism, yes.

It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. First step: Admitting that its even our problem. Until we in the 'republic' take responsibility we will be fighting the war on terror.

Fighting the war on terror should be our primary focus as a nation. It has not been, we've been too busy in Iraq. Should any president that makes a mistake that big, one that threatens our national security so egregiously, be given an opportunity to screw it up again? Even worse perhaps? Were another terrorist attack to occur on US soil in a second Bush term, would he try to blame Clinton?

...and is the thought of Kerry for four years THAT overwhelmingly bad in comparison to what we've seen out of Dumbya?

Should the ranks of Al Qaeda treble before you rate his presidency an abject failure?

Fall of the republic? Heck no, aim low. Start with the presidency and work to change certain aspects of US culture slowly over time.

I'm so radical."

Funny, I'll bet you are the onlyone that reads that thread, including your right handed compatriots, that doesn't see your ass being handed to you every time you open your gob.

Now Mr. Reading Comprehension...where THIS tangent started was when you posted this:

"Whooooa there doggy! Do you forget your post of just a few weeks ago blaming American Imperialism and Jewish zionist for 9-11 Or are you just trrying to get a brown ring arouns your nose here?"

Note the derision as you misquote me.

Note that in this same thread YOU called ME a douchebag.

Note your inability to spell simple words like 'around'.

You are a virus with shoes. Thank god for you though, if it weren't for morons like you giving the republican party a skidmark the election might be a little closer this fall.

**crickets**

GH,

Let me help you a bit.

First off you left out a very telling part of the quote.

"Do you think the world would be a better place with the fall of the US republic?"


"Not exactly, Plunk.

US imperialism, yes."

1) In most of his post he accuses the US of being imperialist specifically Re: the Iraq war. So he is calling for the fall of the republic specifically the republic under GW which he sees as imperialist. But he goes on later to call us imperialist since WWII.


2)"It starts with cleaning up the mess we made in the middle east after WW II. "

He can only be pointing to the creation of Isreal here. Cleaning up the mess implies that Isreal is the problem in the middle east and must be eliminated or as he put it cleaned up. A key requirement of Al Queda as well.

3)First step: Admitting that its even our problem. Until we in the 'republic' take responsibility we will be fighting the war on terror."

His remedy is for us to take responsibility for making them attack us. We created the atmosphere via conditions to set up culpability for our own attack. Our role in the middle east and our Imperialism being to blame.

GH thats all straight out of the Whabbi demands made via Bin Ladden.


"May I point out that never once has H2O said they weren't to blame. " So if I only used the "N" word to discribe black people you would assume I loved them because I never said I did not? Same logic . Its very clear who he blames.

We can play word games all day long it's clear to any sober person that he simply blames the US for the whole mess based on it's imperailism and openly supports the far left platform . Which in turn by default supports the contentions of Al Queda.

For the most part, but with a softer touch ,GH you do the same.

You seem to be the master of word games, Elvis. Your convoluted interpretation of the english language is bizzarre.

spin it biotch

No GH you want to parse words that only fit your view. As noted above when you single out a few words and define them outside of the context of that post and of all the post H@0 has made. (like We and Republic) Notice how h20 himself in his last post in defending his statement shifts to GW and the election and completely ignores defining his intent of his own statement.