#269777 - 08/05/04 03:19 PM
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Keep in mind that PMS-NBC is the same unbiased "enlightened" media conglomerate that gave us the 'Phil Donahue show'. ------------------------------------------------------------ BTW--The teacher who taught the class our president was visting on 9/11/01 was a democrat who voted for Al Gore. She has said that she appreciates the way Bush 43 calmly handled the situation and didn't needlessly scare or alarm the young children. She has also said that she will now be voting for Bush in Nov. '04.
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#269779 - 08/05/04 03:23 PM
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yeah, ollie north is a real american!
:rolleyes:
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#269781 - 08/05/04 03:54 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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BTW--The teacher who taught the class our president was visting on 9/11/01 was a democrat who voted for Al Gore.
She has said that she appreciates the way Bush 43 calmly handled the situation and didn't needlessly scare or alarm the young children.
She has also said that she will now be voting for Bush in Nov. '04. That's nice. I guess my vote will cancel hers out. Yeah, who wants to scare 30 school kids when the country is being attacked by terrorists?
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#269782 - 08/05/04 03:56 PM
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I think he was trying to figure out why 'his pet goat' seemed so smart.
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#269783 - 08/05/04 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Dan S.: BTW--The teacher who taught the class our president was visting on 9/11/01 was a democrat who voted for Al Gore.
She has said that she appreciates the way Bush 43 calmly handled the situation and didn't needlessly scare or alarm the young children.
She has also said that she will now be voting for Bush in Nov. '04. That's nice. I guess my vote will cancel hers out.
Yeah, who wants to scare 30 school kids when the country is being attacked by terrorists? ------------------------------------------------------------ DanS, With almost three years to think about it and hindsight always being 20/20--Can you please tell what you, Al Gore or even John "Pierre" Kerry could have done in a few minutes after being informed about a plane flying into a building--that would have saved a single American life that horrific day?
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#269785 - 08/05/04 06:43 PM
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#269786 - 08/05/04 06:59 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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DanS,
With almost three years to think about it and hindsight always being 20/20--Can you please tell what you, Al Gore or even John "Pierre" Kerry could have done in a few minutes after being informed about a plane flying into a building--that would have saved a single American life that horrific day? Sure, I can tell you. I'd have said "Excuse me kids, but there is a matter that needs my attention." and I'd have left the room. Once out of the room, I'd have asked the Secret Service what had happened and what was being done THEN to address it. Sitting there while planes are flying into skyscrapers is not a reaction I'd expect from any high ranking official. If it's OK with you, fine. It's not OK by me, that's all.
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#269787 - 08/05/04 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by AuntyM: [QUOTE]
Do I blame Bush for not reacting sooner? Hell no.
That's why they call it terrorism. ------------------------------------------------------------ Another AuntyM 'pearl of wisdom' ------------------------------------------------------------ BTW--It just dawned on me who made Harstine Island famous. Are you really Dixie Lee Ray?
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#269788 - 08/05/04 07:11 PM
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Deputy Dog lived on Fox island with her lesbian sister and a buch of pets. WPPPSS did I say that?
What a petty point to debate.
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#269790 - 08/05/04 07:22 PM
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Since we are playing arm chair QB. What was clitons response time to all the terrorist attacks during his play time? Oh, that's right , He DIDN'T RESPOND! He had what 7 years???Maybe that's why we are where are now?
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#269791 - 08/05/04 07:25 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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See, the funny thing is: CLINTON ISN'T RUNNING.
But, do carry on.
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#269792 - 08/05/04 07:31 PM
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Clinton was just gathering his thoughtsand waiting for poll results on what would be more popular. Kerry was trying to decide who's side he was on and figured he couldnt get any good home movies for his next campaign.
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#269793 - 08/05/04 07:35 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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And Bush was just too stupid to do anything else.
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#269794 - 08/05/04 07:43 PM
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I'm tellin you Dan, he was reading my pet goat and trying real hard to 'get it'.
"why does this damn goat seem smarter than me....WHY!, WHY!, WHY!"
I can see how that might be somewhat perplexing to the poor sot.
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#269795 - 08/05/04 07:48 PM
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All you can hang your hat on is calling him stupid? I hear playground kids saying "Whatyou say bounces off me and sticks to you" Come on dog something important or new.
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#269796 - 08/05/04 07:51 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Stupid is as stupid does. George does. Don't really need any more to hang my hat on than that. See, I'm not looking for your approval before I cast my vote. But, thanks for caring.
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#269798 - 08/05/04 07:54 PM
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Who said you needed my approval? I was just pointing out how petty the debate topic was. Having delusions again Dan?
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#269799 - 08/05/04 07:57 PM
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jeff'ed that was deep hard hitting intellectual political analysis there thanks :p I bet both parties are up late tonight building the campaigns around that notion.
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#269801 - 08/05/04 08:56 PM
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With almost three years to think about it and hindsight always being 20/20--Can you please tell what you, Al Gore or even John "Pierre" Kerry could have done in a few minutes after being informed about a plane flying into a building--that would have saved a single American life that horrific day?---SCOWAK ------------------------------------------------------------
Sure, I can tell you. I'd have said "Excuse me kids, but there is a matter that needs my attention." and I'd have left the room. Once out of the room, I'd have asked the Secret Service what had happened and what was being done THEN to address it.---DanS [/QB]
----------------------------------------------------------- I know that's what John "Pierre" Kerry is going around saying (he must have had a focus group done on a bunch of gullible easily manipulated people who just watched F 9/11). The question I posed however is, what would you or someone else as acting president have done in a few minutes that would of saved a single American life? Unless someone can answer that and definitively prove that their actions would have changed the course of events--- all the finger pointing and second guessing is an exercise in futility.
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#269802 - 08/05/04 10:29 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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The question I posed however is, what would you or someone else as as acting president have done in a few minutes that would of saved a single American life? No, probably not. But the point I'm getting at is that I don't believe that at the time he was in the classroom and was informed by the SS that planes had crashed into a building, it was clear how many planes and/or cities were part of the plan. What if 20 planes had been hijacked and were enroute to other targets? Would you want anyone other than the President to authorize the shooting down of other airliners that might have been intercepted? If the President isn't available, then of course the decision would pass down the chain of command. But I don't think "unavailable" should mean he's reading "My Pet Goat" with a classroom of kids. He wasn't even reading TO them, he was reading along. What's wrong with saying "Excuse me." so you can make a decision about what can be done to protect the rest of the country? To me, it shows that Bush doesn't know what to do in a crisis unless he's told. TK, I don't think I'm having delusions...........but then, what delusional person does? Hiding from black helicopters and wearing tinfoil hats probably seems like a smart thing to do to someone who does it. Shoot, you should know that.
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#269803 - 08/05/04 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dan S.:
I don't think I'm having delusions...........but then, what delusional person does? [/QB] ------------------------------------------------------------ That's a pretty good line---I might have to add that to my arsenal.
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#269805 - 08/05/04 11:20 PM
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...his 'national guard men'.....
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#269806 - 08/06/04 01:11 AM
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...I agree with SCOWAK... Honestly, nothing could have been done to prevent the next air attack.
You honestly think that in the time before the Pentagon attack, sufficient air defense could have been up and running? This means (I'm guessing, tell me if I'm wrong), launching some planes, getting them to begin patrols, setting up a restricted area, etc. Feel free to throw in a few more.
Lets remember one more thing. President Bush attacked Senator Kerry's military records only because Senator Kerry made them the center of his campaign in the beginning. Senator Kerry attacks everything about President Bush, every decision he's made, but when President Bush tells the world that Senator Kerry is in fact a fraud, President Bush is the nazi. Speaking of fraud, anyone know the name of that organization that just published an article called "Unfit for Command" on Senator Kerry? I think it was the Swiftboat Organization... Not sure.
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PS: Is it really all that hard to refer to President Bush as PRESIDENT Bush?? He's earned that much hasn't he?
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#269807 - 08/06/04 02:10 AM
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No.
I much prefer Dumbya or Bouche much as righty preferred to call Clinton Willy, Bubba etc.
get over it.
You said 'Kerry is in fact a fraud'.
Wrong on about twelve different levels BVD's.
I looked hard for any definition of fraud that applies. There isn't one.
Kerry is, in your opinion, a fraud.
Now, there's a statement that can't be argued. However it CAN be questioned such as...What claims has he made that are false?
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#269809 - 08/06/04 02:49 AM
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Those pirate jokes come awful easy to you gramps.
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#269810 - 08/06/04 10:09 AM
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I've wanted to stay out of this debate because even though GW is the worst president I have ever seen, I am prepared to cut him some slack on this point. The main reason is that I can only view this event in the context of hindsight. But, I must respond to the comment that we could not have put a defensive posiiton up in the 55 minutes between the attack on the 2nd tower and the Pentagon. If that is so, we are in deep sh!t and I can not believe that our military can not make a decision and execute that decision within an hour.
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#269811 - 08/06/04 10:51 AM
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You want to be the guy that says shoot down a civilian airliner?
I think it was the start of the death rattle for JFK for pres.
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#269813 - 08/06/04 11:25 AM
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Funny how MCcain did not criticze F911 or the Whoopi show etc. etc. You know riding the I was a prisoner of war or a vet horse gets old.
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#269815 - 08/06/04 04:37 PM
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Well lets talk about Kerrys reaction to 911. He was interviewed shortly after on the LArry King Show . Kerry said he was with Daschle and a few other and watched the 2nd plane hit. Kerry recalled how all four in the meeting where dumbfounded how they tried to continue the meeting but could not think then the plane hit the Pentagon and they could see the smoke from the window. Between that plane hitting and the Plane hitting the Pentagon 43 minutes passed. So they sat there dumbfounded and shocked. Kerry did not proceed to the Pentagon to see if he could offer aid or assistance he went to lunch. By his own words he tells how he would react.
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#269816 - 08/06/04 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Theking: Well lets talk about Kerrys reaction to 911. He was interviewed shortly after on the LArry King Show . Kerry said he was with Daschle and a few other and watched the 2nd plane hit. Kerry recalled how all four in the meeting where dumbfounded how they tried to continue the meeting but could not think then the plane hit the Pentagon and they could see the smoke from the window. Between that plane hitting and the Plane hitting the Pentagon 43 minutes passed. So they sat there dumbfounded and shocked. Kerry did not proceed to the Pentagon to see if he could offer aid or assistance he went to lunch. By his own words he tells how he would react. Very weak argument there little elvis :p
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#269817 - 08/06/04 04:47 PM
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How so. Bush only took 7 minutes to do something. Kerry took a few hours to decide to go to lunch. His words not mine. Very Presidential.
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#269818 - 08/06/04 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Theking: How so. Bush only took 7 minutes to do something. Kerry took a few hours to decide to go to lunch. His words not mine. Very Presidential. What was Kerry supposed to do? He had no power to do anything? I guess he could have done like Al Haig (no doubt one of your heroes) did and declare himself in charge :p Kerry probably made the mistake of assuming the president was on top of it.
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#269820 - 08/06/04 04:57 PM
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I suppose Mr. Photo Op could not of tried to help the injured or assited the firemen police in anyway. Better to go to lunch.
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#269821 - 08/06/04 06:04 PM
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I guess Kerry should have ordered any other planes shot down.
What? He wasn't the President at the time?
Oh..............never mind.
Well, then he should have headed down to the armory and picked up a Stinger to see if he could shoot one down himself.
Yeah, yeah........that's it.
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#269822 - 08/06/04 07:17 PM
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The worst day in America since Pearl Harbor and he heads out for a Hillary special. Two Left wings a pair of fat thighs and some real small breasts. What a great charachter reference.
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#269823 - 08/06/04 07:52 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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It's President Do-Nothing vs. Senator Do-Nothing.
But the Senator isn't the CIC is he? :p
She's gonna be a tight race, folks.
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#269824 - 08/06/04 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Theking: The worst day in America since Pearl Harbor and he heads out for a Hillary special. Two Left wings a pair of fat thighs and some real small breasts. What a great charachter reference. Still spelling challenged huh little e ? Ya know some of your pathetic ramblings might be amusing if they were at least original. Now be a good little fascist and go take your prozac
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#269825 - 08/07/04 12:27 AM
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You pro-Bouches are looking at this like they knew how many aircraft there were before it even started. Dan made the perfect point: what if there were 20 planes? One must look at the situation from the other side of the attack. When the first report came in that an airliner hit one of the towers a "flag" should have gone off that demanded more answers. We're talking an airliner and one of the twin towers. That's not just a plane going into a building. A smart commander would have immediately started asking questions. He should have left the room and demanded more information. By the way, Dan: ... he was reading along. I think you give Bouche too much credit.
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#269826 - 08/07/04 01:47 AM
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'damn goat even looks smarter than me.'
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#269827 - 08/07/04 01:33 PM
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BUSH blew it, he choked, the problem was that he was concentrating on reading 4th grade books and could not diseminate what was real and what was in the book being read. He stole the election, went awol, can't pronounce nuclear and can't form two complete sentences without Dick C. up his butt, but he is in charge of the most powerful country on earth, no wonder the rest of the world looks at us in amazement. Osama and Saddam would have reacted, but where was Bush, he turned out to be the terrorists biggest pawn, stumbling, mumbling, Dumbya....................Wide eyed like a deer in the headlights. I hope that he gets run over this november...............Fishy.......
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#269828 - 08/09/04 12:46 PM
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I hearathat was the highlight of the 9-11 comission report. They focused on that 7 minutes and have had it analyzed frame by frame just like the JFK assasination film. What they really found is that Bush did not alter his breathing after the whisper. His breathing was normal meaning the news was no suprise. If you look closely you can see the SS agent say, "Mossad pulled it off and the towers have been hit and we are blaming it on the muslims'" Bush responds under his breath" tell Dick to give Halliburton the go. Did the plane it the whitehouse so I can declare marshall law" The story he was reading was CIA code detailing instructions to pull off 9-11 and make as much money as possible. Spread the news when this hits the mainstream press Bush is really in trouble.
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#269829 - 08/09/04 01:39 PM
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Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
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Doing your bit for the Bouchie disinformation campaign are we!
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The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.
I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S
We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!
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