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#270226 - 08/13/04 03:13 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
goharley Offline
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Well, there you have it. If Drudge reports it, then it must be true. :rolleyes: Just like that story about his extramarital affair.

Oh, by the way, when someone asks you what you did last Christmas, do they always mean that exact day? Or do they use it as a term for the holiday season? Just curious. You know, like when someone says, "My parents are flying out for Christmas," I don't naturally assume they mean the parents are arriving on Christmas day and then leaving again that day.

Also, the english language has these really cool things called periods. And what they do is separate sentences and thoughts. Like the following example: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia." See? Those two sentences means the author wasn't implying that he was necessarily shot at while on the boat during Christmas. Notice further that the comma used ties together the context of the second sentence meaning it was various memories over a period of time. This context can also be applied to the first sentence meaning that it covered a period of time, not a particular point in time.

Ahhh, the english language. Marvelous tool once you grasp the basics. ;\)
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#270227 - 08/13/04 04:53 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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Originally posted by goharley:

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#270228 - 08/13/04 05:06 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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How does grammer account for this then GH?

This from Andrew Antippos in this morning's Washington Times:

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"Finally, concerning the assertion that Mr. Kerry was shot at by the Khmer Rouge during his Christmas 1968 visit to Cambodia, it should be noted that the Khmer Rouge didn't take the field until the Easter Offensive of 1972, when the Vietnamese forces that had attacked the Cambodians initially in March 1970 pulled out of Cambodia to attack the U.S. and Vietnamese forces in Vietnam. Only Vietnamese Communist soldiers were found on the battlefields of Cambodia in 1970-72."

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Antippos was the US Foreign Service officer in Saigon in charge of Cambodia issues from March, 1966 through February, 1970. From February, 1970 until 1972, he was assigned to the US Embassy in Phnom Phen.
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#270229 - 08/13/04 05:18 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
goharley Offline
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:rolleyes: I already explained it all. English, gentleman. Learn it, use it.

Taking something out of context and repeating it numerous times in different spins does not make it true.

One thing you cannot take out of of context: He volunteered for combat duty. The incumbent did not.
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#270230 - 08/13/04 06:46 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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Registered: 06/19/01
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Loc: North Bend, WA
AM - you still haven't addressed this yet:

"LOL. Once again you can't backup your wacky claims.

Was it political suicide or not??? If it was, how come he still managed a long (yet surpisingly uninspiring) political career?? Please answer the question instead of dodging it with lame insults."


After all, this is an "... absolute and undeniable fact" that you have trumped us with. I'm sure you can exlpain since it is so clear and obvious...


*****crickets*****


Oh well. Guess I'll check back next week after my vacation... (I'm gone until next Thurs)

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#270232 - 08/15/04 01:34 AM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
Rory Bellows Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by AuntyM:

To most Americans, tossing medals was a no no. Add the other protests, testimony given, etc and it's quite unusual that he was elected.
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It's not unusual in Massachusetts--this is the same 'enlightened' state that re-elects Ted Kennedy every six years no matter how many mistereses' drownings he tries to cover up or how many rapes he's implicated in.
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BTW--since Bob nipped the 'Selective my A$$'
thread---I wanted to say that I wasn't suggesting that you condoned slavery--I was trying to make the point that just because the tribes historically did something (gaming or slavery) they shouldn't automatically be able to start doing it again. :p
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#270234 - 08/17/04 01:10 AM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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One point on the tribes and their slavery....The Makahs for example used to travel by canoe to Vancouver Island to bring back slaves from other tribes..one of their sacred traditions like gambling....Trouble is that the Stevens treaties of 1855 allowed them to whale and kill seals and fish but they had to agree to stop the practice of slavery. They agreed and so they can't claim the right to have slaves anymore. I can't seem to find the part about fireworks though.
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#270235 - 08/17/04 01:39 AM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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Originally posted by Theking:
Support The DrudgeReport; Visit Our Advertisers XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU AUG 12, 2004 21:01:21 ET XXXXX

JANUARY -- NOT CHRISTMAS -- KERRY IN CAMBODIA

**Exclusive**

TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once claimed from the Senate floor.

The Brinkley piece for the NEW YORKER will now say that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas, but rather in January, publishing sources tell DRUDGE.

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Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan's actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here's what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND:

"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me."

John O'Neil's, author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, comments on the “clarification:”

“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”

“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O'Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.”

Developing...
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It's very telling that John Kerry is now CHANGING his version of what happened in SE
Asia---but the 250+ sailors who served with Kerry in Vietnam that contributed to 'Unfit for Command' are NOT changing their version.

http://www.swiftvets.com

--------All together now:

They call him Flipper, Flipper...

King of the Mekong.

No one you see......

Changes positions better than he.
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#270236 - 08/17/04 01:55 AM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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Registered: 10/31/02
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Loc: Portland
BELVEDEEEEEEEERRRE!!

COME HERE BOY!!!
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#270237 - 08/17/04 11:42 AM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
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Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 948
Loc: Snohomish, WA USA
I love it when the Republicans keep this issue infront of everyone.....(Kerry's military service record vs. Bush's). Keep it up TK, PP, et all. Kerry will always come out ahead!!!

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#270238 - 08/17/04 02:03 PM Re: I'm dreaming of a Cambodian Christmas
goharley Offline
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Yeah, that same Drudge crap has been posted in this forum about a dozen times now. The same Drudge tabloid that broke the story on Kerry's mistress and affair. :rolleyes:

They get lucky with one story on Clinton, and now they're considered credible?
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