How did we have containment? I cannot wait to see this.

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You mean like when Clinton 'contained' the terrorists so effectively?

It is precisely the liberal Clintonese policy of 'peace at any price', 'don't answer the door that's being pounded on--and maybe the bad guys will just go away', 'peace through appeasement' philosophy that has put us in the difficult position were in now.

We were attacked so many times under Clinton's watch, and because he repeatably did
nothing is why Osama bin Laden said we (USA) were a paper tiger that would not fight.

Clinton's lack of action is what enboldened OBL and the gang to plan and execute the 9/11/01 attacks.

If anyone out there thinks that Islamic fundelmentalists would've been hugging us and wouldn't be praying for and planning your families death today if we had never invaded Iraq--you're delusional.

Bush himself has said that ideally he would rather not have our country fighting terrorists here or abroad. Neadless to say we don't live in a ideal world. However, cutting and running would only make the situatuation worse.

The ME has and will continue to be troubled area--we now have a strong foothold in the area (ME) other than Israel. Hopefully, over time, the idea of reprenstative government, free markets and freedom of speech will flurish thoughout the area.

Gen. Tommy Franks said, "the area (Iraq) has become a magnet for terrorists," and right now we have two choices, "we can either fight them over there, or fight them over here."

When a bully thinks you won't fight back, he'll bully you every chance he gets.

When a bully KNOWS you'll fight back and is more worried about losing his teeth than gaining whatever satifaction bullying you gives him----you're much less likely to be bullied.

It has been said that this is going to be a long battle (fighting Islamic terrorists). To the MTV mentality wants everything yesterday-- NEWSFLASH: It's not gonna' happen.

Whether it's Kerry or Bush in office next February--they'll still want to bully, terrorize and kill all of us in March.

We can either 'appease' and not fight back and continued to be bullied and live in terror, or we can fight back until they're so worried about what will happen to themselves that they won't have the time to plan and execute what they'd like to have happen to us.

Anyone else find it ironic that Franks is full of beans?

Hello?? Where the (Dick Cheney) were you two years ago?

Iraq was under strict sanctions; filled with weapons inspectors, the entire world was watching and breathing down Saddam's neck; we had him where we wanted him.

That's containment in military parlance.

But someone got an itchy trigger finger and impatient.

If they DID have wmd's, which righty seems to believe religiously that they did, then they were 'contained' within the borders of Iraq.

If they didn't have wmd's, which ALL of the evidence seems to indicate, then Bouche lied.

If they did have wmd's and they were surreptitiously removed from Iraq before the us invasion, where'd they go? In a cargo 'container' headed to us shores? Are they 'contained' within the borders of other terrorist friendly nations?

Yeah, let's talk about containment as it relates to WMD's, shall we?

Oh that's right, this question has been asked and dodged at twenty five times on this site alone....

....right before Elvis Copperfield took a powder.

Are you now calling Cliton, Kerry and Edwards righty, along with many others.?? Just curious considering all said that they were there? Or is that just another baseless attempt to slam? Or, could it be that you have become so blind with hate and anger that you really have no idea of reality anymore?

C'mon, H2o. I used to at least find your posts somewhat amusing and even a few were informational and made me think of the possibilities of your point of view and even considered a few. Either the late nights or lack of fishing are getting to you. Lately your posts are getting more and more delusional...

Go have a barley soda and slay some fish...

Yeah my delusions also recall that Dumbya sold the congress a bill of goods, top o the list was wmd's!

Talk about not getting what you paid for.

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Withdraw from the backside?

Professional Bush Whacker?
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It sounds like somebody needs to either eat some chocolate or get some @ction.

Sounds like someone has nothing to say today.

Cmon rory, you can do better!

Gh,

I just listened to Slade gorton speak on the question of Iraq and Al Queda. He said there where many ties and evidence of even more between the two. Just no operational ties to 911. So at a place in time you may argue a case that there was containment but none of us know when it stopped. What we do no is that it happened well before we invaded. Secondly the guy you are voting for said containment was not enough. Thridly its a moot point as we invaded. So whats the point going down that dead end.

Okay, Elvis, I accept your concession.

Gh,

And I accept yours equally. One question though. Why the heck where you in the militray and why contract back to them. Of all the wars this country has ever been involved in only one was not by choice.

anyone ever play reversi?


no?


othello?

nevermind....

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

And what does that have to do with the wars in America's history?

The only thing I can come up with when I ask why would an anti military , blame America first,socialist leaning person be in the military is an easy paycheck. What could possibly be the reason if that's not it? To infiltrate the military so you can claim credibility when you tear it down? Maybe that's it....You served your country by golly so you have standing to rip the military a new one and blast your fellow soldiers as baby killers etc etc....

so you would deny ex-military the right to free speech eh gramps?

how positively american of you!

GH,

"And what does that have to do with the wars in America's history?"

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

Brilliant.

Grandpa,

Why do you feel I'm anti-military? And what is "blame America first?"

By the way, the military is a socialist environment. Seems to have worked for over 225 years now.