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#270250 - 08/11/04 01:21 PM Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Recently Bouche was criticizing Kerry for stating that he wanted to start bringing troops home by next August. He said:
Quote:
"The key is not to set artificial timelines,"
Geez, that didn't seem to matter when he pulled June 30th out of his arse for the handover. Sounds like a flip-flop to me. ;\)

Here Kerry is giving insight to an actual exit strategy - using diplomacy to have other nations commit troops so we can bring some of ours home - and Bouche has a problem with that? Why? 'Cause he couldn't think of one himself in a year-and-a-half?

At the same rally, McCain stated that more troops may be needed in Iraq. Wasn't the GOP getting on Kerry's butt after misunderstanding his desire to raise active duty by 40,000? They claimed he wanted to add those to Iraq. Now they say we need more? Sounds like another flip-flop.

But that's GOP; do as I say, not as I do.
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#270251 - 08/11/04 01:24 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Flip Flop til the day you drop, cmon!
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#270252 - 08/11/04 01:43 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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What insight?

That he would do it differently? Where does he get the justification for reducing troops in 6 months? What foreign leaders does he have assurances from? Please spell it out. You cannot because Kerry has not why how convienient. Playing on the lack of knowldge from the acg. american pilgrim of how the security council works and why France, germany and Russia cannot send troops or peace keepers.

I say he is pandering to the far left that voted for Dean knowing he is OK with his base because they will vote for a democrat if he was dead.
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#270254 - 08/11/04 02:05 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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That's the beauty of it all. I don't have to spell it out. I do enough research on my own before posting something. I'm not doing your work for you. And if you're truly as well read as you claim to be, you wouldn't ask some of the ludicrous questions you do.
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#270255 - 08/11/04 02:08 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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He has not spelled it out other than to say he would get other countries to help. Which countries have offered him their services? None. He is playing a game and has been called on it several times.
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#270256 - 08/11/04 02:09 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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#270257 - 08/11/04 02:11 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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If you were truly following politics as you pretend to do, you'd know exactly what Kerry's response was to your very criticism. Again, I'm not doing your work for you.

Hint: you won't find it on Drudge or Weekly Standard.
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#270258 - 08/11/04 02:50 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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It's vaporware. It isnot of this world . It cannot be produced. Saying the same thing 3 times 3 different ways. You could not produce it if you wanted to because it aint there.
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#270260 - 08/11/04 03:28 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Maybe we could invite these anti Bush supporters here for a town meeting with you local supporters. I would offer all of them a free knife as a welcoming gift.

Video purportedly shows killing of Iraq "CIA agent"


DUBAI, Aug 11 (Reuters) - A Web site used by Islamic militants carried a video on Wednesday purporting to show militants beheading a "CIA agent" in Iraq.

The four-minute long footage showed a Western-looking man sitting on a chair surrounded by armed masked men. One of the men struck the captive's neck repeatedly with a sword, severing his head amid shouts of "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest).

A sign placed around the man's neck identified him as a "CIA agent." The video could not be immediately authenticated.
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#270261 - 08/11/04 03:33 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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I remember Kerry telling a TV interviewer recently that our involvement in Iraq was mis-guided and that he had a plan to involve other countries in keeping the peace in ME and bringing our troops home.

When the interviewer asked him to elaborate--Kerry said that he wasn't going to divulge his plans now and make them public--you'll just have to trust him until after the election.
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#270262 - 08/11/04 03:39 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Elvis,
What's the point of that post? Trying to rationalize Bouche's folly? Did it ever occur to you that none of the beheadings would be happening if we hadn't invaded? Nor the thousands of innocent Iraqi's dead. Nor the nearly 1000 Americans. Nor the untold thousands of permanently disfigured and handicapped veterans. The insugency wouldn't have happened. The car bombings. Hopefully you get my point.

Krusty-
You're getting warm. But you only listened to half of it.

Since you're criticizing Kerry's lack of concrete answers, tell me, what is Bouche's plan? What is his exit strategy? His plan for winning the peace?
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#270263 - 08/11/04 03:46 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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"When the interviewer asked him to elaborate--Kerry said that he wasn't going to divulge his plans now and make them public--you'll just have to trust him until after the election."


Why should Kerry divulge his plan just so the current administration could publicly ridicule it, then secretly enact it themselves? ;\) \:D
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#270264 - 08/11/04 03:51 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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GH,

Your view is always of the glass half full. Did it ever occur to you that it would be happing all over the world if not for the Iraq war?

4Salt, You sum up the liberal bent on everything it's all a conspiracy theroy. :p
Saves a lot of work thinking about something whenyou can blame someone else for everything.
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#270265 - 08/11/04 03:59 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Was it occuring at this pace prior to the invasion?
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#270266 - 08/11/04 04:12 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Why is concentrating it and them a bad thing?

Would you rather arrest them one by one and then give them due process? Hard to argue about your rights while you point an RPG at someone or blow yourself up in a car bomb.

Forcing them out into the light like cockroaches then stomping them. Swift and final justice on terms of their choosing.
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#270268 - 08/11/04 05:25 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Yet another conspiracy theroy.
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#270270 - 08/11/04 06:15 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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"Unpaid Professional BUSH Whacker"

Sounds like service you should take on the road to the women of Wallingford. Maybe show them how to shave their hairy legs and arms pits as well. I bet you need the biggest Stihl they make :p
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#270271 - 08/11/04 06:29 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Theking:
Why is concentrating it and them a bad thing?
It's not a bad thing if that's what was happening. But it's not. We're fighting Iraqi guerrillas that were created after our invasion. Military leaders have determined that the majority of insurgents are not foreign fighters.

While we're killing everyone in Iraq, al Qaeda is fat and happy in Pakistan and Afghanistan continueing to plot against American cities. The only ones making any real difference in this war on terra is Pakistan who is, yes, arresting those they find. Of course that's being hampered by Bouche's people leaking classified info to the press, but that's another thread. ;\)

Again I ask: were the terrorist activities occurring around the globe at this same pace prior to our invasion?

Personal responsibility, try taking some. Oh yeah, GOP's mantra - do as I say, not as I do.
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#270273 - 08/11/04 06:43 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Sources for your points?


"were the terrorist activities occurring around the globe at this same pace prior to our invasion?"

No it has increased but its a pointless observastion as the situation is not static and it is logical to assume things will get worse before they get better. I also do not rememebr anyone promising anything but a long drawn out battle. But the children libs expect quick results kind of like they get when they flip from MTV to the Cartoon network between bong hits. :p
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#270274 - 08/11/04 07:20 PM Re: Doesn't he want an exit strategy?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Theking:
No it has increased but its a pointless observastion
Wrong. It is a very pointed observation because the increase in terrorist incidences could have been prevented or greatly scaled back. Containment. We had that at one time.
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