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#272310 - 09/17/04 01:00 PM Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Discovering that their Hero is a Zero, Kerry supporters are 'Going Wild' when they realize that the 'Not So Swift' Kerry campaign boat is taking on water fast and about to capsize!
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Warning: Irrational and disapointed Kerry supporters take out their anger on young girls and women who have the nerve to respect and support their countries president!

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040917-010155-8041r.htm
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Another incident:


HUNTINGTON

LI man arrested in air rage case




By Alfonso A. Castillo
Staff Writer

September 16, 2004

A spirited debate on presidential politics aboard an Alaska-bound airplane has turned into an international incident, and left a Huntington Station retiree locked up in a Canadian jail on criminal charges, authorities said yesterday.

Michael Husar, 58, was arrested Friday after allegedly having an alcohol-induced bout of air rage aboard a Northwest Airlines flight to Anchorage, which was diverted to Winnipeg, Manitoba, because of the incident.

Husar, a retired registered nurse at the Northport VA Medical Center, faces local Manitoba provincial charges of causing a disturbance and criminal mischief that caused damages over $5,000 Canadian, the latter of which is punishable by two years in prison. He also faces a less serious federal charge of violating federal aeronautics regulations.

"He's mad as hell," said Husar's Canadian attorney, John Corona, adding that Husar plans to sue the airline.

Husar boarded Flight 849 in Minneapolis on his way from New York to visit some friends in Alaska, his wife, Linda, said yesterday. Officials said Husar, a supporter of Sen. John Kerry, was engaged in a discussion on the upcoming presidential election with a woman seated next to him - a President George W. Bush supporter - when she became turned off by his belligerent attitude and complained to the flight staff.

The woman also did not like that Husar would touch her leg and shoulder when he spoke to her, authorities said. Corona said Husar had "had a few drinks."

Russell Ridd, supervising senior crown attorney for the Manitoba Justice Department, said that when flight attendants approached Husar, he became enraged, deliberately spilling a container of alcohol and engaging in "the boisterous behavior of a drunk."

Ridd said the pilot deemed the situation "a minor emergency" and called for an abrupt landing. An armed marshal sat next to Husar until the plane reached a Winnipeg airport, where Husar was kicked off and promptly arrested.

"It strikes me as a bit of an overreaction," said Corona, adding that Husar quickly calmed down on the plane after being reprimanded. "There was no threat or no violence. Certainly nobody was at risk safety-wise."

But Northwest spokesman Thomas Becher said the emergency landing was necessary. "Safety and security is our top priority," he said.

Husar posted $4,300 Canadian bail yesterday on the charges and was free to return home, on several conditions, including that he not fly or possess any alcohol. Corona said the airline is also seeking $10,000 in fuel costs from Husar.

At Husar's home yesterday, his wife said she was very concerned and upset over the incident, adding that she had only heard once from her husband, shortly after he was arrested. Linda Husar said it sounded as if he may "have had a little too much to drink," but she believed authorities overreacted. She said her husband, who worked at the VA hospital for 25 years, is a "very patriotic" Air Force veteran, who's recently been "disappointed" with President Bush. She also said Husar tends to be "animated" in conversations.

"I'm disappointed that his vacation got messed up," she said.
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#272311 - 09/17/04 02:50 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Discovering that their Hero is a Zero, Kerry supporters are 'Going Wild' when they realize that the 'Not So Swift' Kerry campaign boat is taking on water fast and about to capsize!
Dream on dude! Is this supposed to be indictment against Kerry supporters or a revelation??? There have been and probably will be many more alcohol induced insidents of misbehavoir on both sides of the isle.

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#272314 - 09/18/04 01:51 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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next time he should arm his kids with AK-47s and if those Dems come near them they can blow them away....
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#272315 - 09/18/04 07:23 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by grandpa:
next time he should arm his kids with AK-47s and if those Dems come near them they can blow them away....
grandpa

It's those kind of remarks that don't need to be expressed. It hurts our cause and gives the sKerry's and their Ilk ammunition against us. That is exactly the reason why we got AWB in the first place is just because of such remarks. It puts us on the same level with the Bradys, Schulmers, sKerrys and the rest of that crowd and as a firearm owner I want no part of them or their philosophy or their attempts to put further restrictions on us.

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#272316 - 09/18/04 08:03 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Holy AuntyM Batman!!!

ACT if you are that easily fooled I'll be more careful next time.
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#272317 - 09/18/04 08:13 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
ACT Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by grandpa:
Holy AuntyM Batman!!!

ACT if you are that easily fooled I'll be more careful next time.
Nope I'm not that easily fooled. It's just that others on the otherside can take such a remark out of context.

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#272318 - 09/20/04 12:06 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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#272319 - 09/20/04 02:36 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
ACT Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by goharley:
"Paranoia will destroy ya..."
Sorry but it's not Parinoa, my asssumtions are based on Pure Fact.

sKerry has voted over 50 times to infringe our Second Admendment rights. He has an 100% approval rating from the Brady Bunch (Handgun Control), and every other anti-gun group both Nationally and Internationally including the UN.

What is even more important there is there is the possibility that the POTUS will appoint at least four new judges to the Supreme Court, which could very adversely affect our way of life and what with what I see coming out of the DNC it scares the hell out of me much more so than what I see coming out of RNC not only as far as Gun Control is concerned, but to the very way of life as we have it today.

Of coarse this is not going to affect me as much as it will affect those who are coming up today or in the future as I am on the downhill sside of life , but it still worrys me the direction that sKerry and those of his Ilk want to lead us.

I can see the past actions and records of the sKerrys, Teddy Kennedys, Patti Murrays, Jim McDermiots and their followers and they scare the hell out of me. I don't want any part of them. I have about as much use for them as I have for the bunch of traitors that ran to Canada in the sixities.

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#272320 - 09/20/04 03:27 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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I don't want any part of them. I have about as much use for them as I have for the bunch of traitors that ran to Canada in the sixities.
Yeah, just like those guys that used family connections to hide in the 'Guard and then couldn't even do that time without question. ;\)

Your assumptions are based on paranoia. The Second Amendment will not go away any more than the First will. They protect one another.

Did you think they were trying to outlaw cars when they reduced the speed to 55?

Were you one of the guys that hid in the woods on December 31st, 1999?

:rolleyes:
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#272321 - 09/20/04 03:55 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Can you show the willingness to infringe upon the 1st amendment that there seems to be for the 2nd? Of course you cannot because most people think that guns kill vs people kill .
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#272322 - 09/20/04 04:59 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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That may be true king, but one thing's for sure... guns make it a hell of a lot easier for people to kill... 'specially while holdin' up a liquor store or doin' a drive-by in the 'hood'.
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#272323 - 09/20/04 05:30 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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4salt,

No excercise, poor diet kill more every day of the year. Lets see fork control legislation. Background checks before you can buy a big mac :p
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#272324 - 09/20/04 05:56 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by goharley:



Were you one of the guys that hid in the woods on December 31st, 1999?

:rolleyes:
No, as a matter of fact I called the Great Y2K Scare and exercise that compares to the great Chicken Little Affair.

It's none of your business where I was on 12/31/1999 - 1/1/2000, but if you must know I was sitting in the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office having coffee with Pete, the Jefferson County Sheriff at the time, manning the JCDEM office along with our Sheriff and the local Director of Emergency Management.

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#272325 - 09/20/04 06:17 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Theking:
Can you show the willingness to infringe upon the 1st amendment that there seems to be for the 2nd? Of course you cannot because most people think that guns kill vs people kill .
Can you show where anyone is trying to repeal or revoke the 2nd Amendment? Of course you cannot because too many Americans own guns and will not stand to have that right taken away, and will use their First Amendment right to let any administration know that.

The NRA and GOP are simply fear mongers trying to keep everyone in goosestep.
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#272326 - 09/20/04 06:42 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Harley Harley Harley,

So your saying you would be OK with having to go through a background check to be able to speak freely? lets ban certain types of speech because it is not in the the best interest of the public. You cannot speak freely in a bar or other public facilities, you cannot conceal your free speach if you do you must register it. People comoitting felonies will lose their right to free speach.
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#272327 - 09/20/04 07:28 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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I was talking about revoking the 2nd Amendment. That is what the NRA and GOP are trying to convince everyone.

Can you go into a theater and yell, "Fire!?" Can you send a letter to Bouched telling him you're going to kill him?
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#272328 - 09/21/04 01:53 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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ACT, I think you should change your displayed name to OVER re-act. Get a grip
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#272329 - 09/21/04 02:13 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
ACT Offline
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Originally posted by thesled:
ACT, I think you should change your displayed name to OVER re-act. Get a grip
No Sled

I've tried to remain above tne endless line of Bullsh!t and lies spred by the Bush Haters and refrain from stooping to your level, but the time has come to reply click on the following link as it applies to all who are swallowing the DNC and it's allies Propaganda.

Vote for sKerry

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#272330 - 09/21/04 02:25 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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over re-act,
im more for bush than skerry
It just sounds like your the type i polked fun of in high school, "no it's tye kwan do, not tie kwon doe".
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#272331 - 10/04/04 04:47 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Swastika Burned Into Grass On Bush-Cheney Supporter's Lawn
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Homeowner: 'My Signs Are Going Right Back In The Yard'

MADISON, Wis. -- Madison homeowners are livid after vandals defaced their homes.


Homeowner Rob Schaeffer

Someone burned an 8-foot-by-8-foot Nazi swastika on a home's lawn near where Bush-Cheney signs were posted. The vandals used grass killer to spray the symbol.

Several nearby homes were vandalized -- all were within a two-block radius on the West Side, near Ice Age Trail, News 3 reported.

State Republican Party officials claim it's the latest in a series of desperate acts by Democrats.

Homeowners are angry, but resolute in what they plan to do next.

"I just cannot believe that someone would take the liberty to do this," said homeowner Rob Schaeffer. "We're appalled that someone would choose to destroy our property because they don't believe in our political views. My signs are going right back in the yard. This is my property. We live here. We have rights."

Police are investigating the criminal damage and told the homeowner it will be investigated as a hate crime, which carries stiffer penalties.
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#272332 - 10/04/04 06:18 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Tell ya what Rory... what would you rather have? A swastika burned into your lawn with grass killer... or every cent of your hard-earned retirement fund taken from you by Bush supporters like Ken Lay for instance? ;\)
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#272333 - 10/04/04 06:37 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by 4Salt:
[QB] Tell ya what Rory... what would you rather have?
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Why do I have to choose? Bush had nothing to do with the Enron fiasco.
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#272334 - 10/04/04 06:44 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Smart man! I'd bet ya a thousand bucks that Kerry had nothing to do with the swastika incident either... ;\)
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#272335 - 10/04/04 06:45 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Yes but the presumption by the left is that the govt. is ultimatly responsible and should make good on it. This removes all responsibility from the individual. The way the left likes it.
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#272336 - 10/04/04 07:58 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Originally posted by 4Salt:
Smart man! I'd bet ya a thousand bucks that Kerry had nothing to do with the swastika incident either... ;\)
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If Kerry would have vandelized someones lawn with a symbol--it would have been the French flag. \:D
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#272337 - 10/05/04 01:12 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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UPDATE: Shots fired into Knox Bush/Cheney headquarters

An unknown suspect fired several shots into the Bearden office of the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign Tuesday morning.

The headquarters are located at 4618 Kingston Pike, next to Noveau Classics and in the same shopping plaza as Long's Drugstore.

According to Knoxville Police Department (KPD) officers on the scene Tuesday, it is believed that the two separate shots were fired from a car sometime between 6:30 am and 7:15 am.

One shot shattered the glass in the front door and the other cracked the glass in another of the front doors.

There were no witnesses to the shooting. A customer at a nearby dry cleaning store noticed shattered glass on the sidewalk in front of the headquarters and called police.

Volunteers and staffers at the campaign office say they have no clues as to who might have committed the crime. However, they add that the shooting makes them even more enthusiastic and energized about working for their candidates.

"If I have to sleep here (at the campaign office) now, that's what I'll do," says volunteer Suzanne Dewar.
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#272338 - 10/05/04 01:23 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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What wonderful conjecture and conspiracy. Oughta make a great movie. I'm surprised you haven't posted Vance's allegations that the DNC stole the computers from his office. :rolleyes:

Seems the Grand Ol' Parrots can't even protect and secure their own offices. Why should anyone trust them to protect and secure the nation?
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#272339 - 10/05/04 11:45 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Protestors Ransack Bush/Cheney Headquarters In Orlando
2 People Receive Minor Injuries During Protest
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- A group of protestors stormed and then ransacked a Bush-Cheney headquarters building in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, according to Local 6 News.

Protestors Storm, Ransack Bush-Cheney Headquarters In Orlando

Local 6 News reported that several people from the group of 100 Orlando protestors face possible assault charges after the group forced their way inside the Republican headquarters office.

While in the building, some of the protestors drew horns and a mustache on a poster of President George W. Bush and poured piles of letters in the office, according to the report.

"We told them to leave, they broke the law," Republican headquarters volunteer Mike Broom said.

Two protestors received minor injuries when the crowd stormed the building, including a Republican volunteer.

One of the protestors said she wanted to send a message.

"We want to send a clear message to Bush, we want him to take his hands off our overtime pay," protestor Esmeralda Heuilar said.

Local 6 News learned that most of the protestors were from the AFL-CIO and were taking part in one of 20 other coordinated protests around the country.

A spokesperson with the AFL-CIO told Local 6 News that the Orlando protest did not go as planned.

A protest similar to Orlando's demonstration was held at a Bush-Cheney office in Miami at the same approximate time, Local 6 News reported.
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#272340 - 10/06/04 01:16 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Can you show the willingness to infringe upon the 1st amendment that there seems to be for the 2nd?
Sincerely,

The proposed Flag Burning Amendment.


Do you visit reality often tk?
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#272341 - 10/06/04 11:03 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Wow Dan the fall of the Huskies must have you hitting the sauce pretty hard. One little 1 st ammendment example vs a sea of 2nd ammendmant examples.
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#272342 - 10/06/04 09:01 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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"Little example" ?

Little like a Blue Whale is little.

You asked for an example, I gave you one. Nothing more to say about it? How 'bout that flag burning amendment?
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#272343 - 10/07/04 12:09 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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I cherish and exercise my 2nd Amendment right to 'keep and bear arms'.

Is 'burning the flag' an expression of free speech that someone on this board cherishes and wants the right to exercise?
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#272344 - 10/07/04 01:44 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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The 1st Amendment doesn't protect the speech you like, it protects the speech you hate.

Get over it because it works both ways.
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#272345 - 10/07/04 11:52 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dan S.:
The 1st Amendment doesn't protect the speech you like, it protects the speech you hate.
Perfectly put.
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#272346 - 10/07/04 11:58 AM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Pointing out the obvious shows such depth of intellect. Did you guys think that up on your own or did you pick it up somewhere? Can I quote you as the original source or do you have it protected :p

On man's teaspon is another man's pool :p
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#272347 - 10/07/04 12:58 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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I cherish and exercise my 2nd Amendment right to 'keep and bare arms'.
So do I Rory! Luckily my arms are pretty hairy, so leaving them bare in the winter don't really bug me that much! ;\) :p \:D
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#272348 - 10/07/04 01:13 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Pointing out the obvious shows such depth of intellect.
Seems the obvious is lost on some your radically-right pack-mates. Sometimes a guy's got to break it down to its most elementary form for you to understand. ;\)
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#272349 - 10/07/04 07:38 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Quote:
Originally posted by 4Salt:
Quote:
I cherish and exercise my 2nd Amendment right to 'keep and bare arms'.
So do I Rory! Luckily my arms are pretty hairy, so leaving them bare in the winter don't really bug me that much! ;\) :p \:D
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4 Salt,

If I ever fill in for Sean Hannity, you can produce the show and double check my spelling before we go on the air. \:D
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#272350 - 10/08/04 01:30 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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You got it Rory! Actually I'm not a spelling stickler at all. The only reason I took a fun little poke at your post is because you were quoting a Constitutional amendment... Your apparent favorite too I presume... \:\)
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#272351 - 10/11/04 09:14 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
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Monday, October 11, 2004 - Page updated at 03:15 P.M.

Bush's campaign office in Spokane burglarized, vandalized

By David Postman
Seattle Times chief political reporter


Offices that house President Bush's re-election campaign in Spokane were broken into and vandalized last night, the latest in a string of crimes at Republican offices across the country.
Workers arriving this morning found a hole smashed through the wall from an adjacent, vacant office. Bush campaign officials say a small amount of petty cash is missing and a computer and television had been moved and left near the hole.

"They must have gotten spooked because they ultimately left the computer and TV," said Bill Hyslop, the campaign's chairman for the Fifth Congressional District.

The computer and the TV had recently arrived in Spokane and the computer was loaded with information from the Republican get-out-the vote program.

Spokane police responded this morning and took the computer's monitor and the TV, Hyslop said.

"We obviously have no idea who did this and are not going to cast aspersions," said Hyslop, who served as U.S. attorney in Spokane under President George H.W. Bush.

In Bellevue last week , computers that stored the Republican get-out-the-vote database were stolen in a burglary at the Republican headquarters there . Bush campaign officials believe the break - ins are part of a broader attack on the president's re-election offices around the country, including a burglary in Canton, Ohio, last night, gun shots fired in West Virginia, Florida and Tennessee and union protestors storming offices in three Florida cities and Minneapolis.

There are no suspects in the burglaries or shootings and no injuries were reported.

Because the protests at campaign offices that were stormed were part of organized union demonstrations, Bush campaign chairman Marc Racicot wrote a letter today to AFL-CIO President John Sweeney asking him to call off any future protests.

"In addition to the injuries, property damage and disruption associated with these acts, these events have created a threatening and intimidating atmosphere abhorrent to our democratic process," Racicot wrote.

The Spokane building leased by the state Republican party and serves as the area office for party operations as well as the campaign for the President and other Republican candidates.


Hyslop said that a security guard checked the building at about 6 a.m. today and did not report any disturbance.

But when construction crews working on the adjacent office arrived within 30 minutes later, they noticed the back door of the adjacent office had been pried open from an alleyway.

They also discovered that a hole appeared to have been kicked through the drywall separating the vacant space from the Bush offices. The computer and TV were found near the hole.

David Postman: 360-943-9882 or dpostman@seattletimes.com
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#272352 - 10/18/04 04:49 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
Rory Bellows Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
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MAN GIVEN CRACK COCAINE TO REGISTER VOTERS ARRESTED IN OHIO

Mon Oct 18 2004 13:26:03 ET

October 18, 2004

The Defiance County Sheriff's Office arrested Chad Staton, age 22, of Stratton Ave., Defiance, on a charge of False Registration, in Violation of Section 3599.11 of the Ohio Revised Code, a felony of the fifth degree.

The SheriffÕs Office alleges that Staton filled out over 100 voter registration forms that were fictitious. Staton was to be paid for each registration form that he could get citizens to fill out. However, Staton himself filled out the registrations and returned them to the woman who hired him from Toledo, Ohio. Deputies allege that Staton was paid crack cocaine for the falsified registrations.

Defiance Deputies along with Toledo Police Department detectives conducted a search warrant of a residence on Woodland in Toledo, believed to be the home of the woman who hired Staton to solicit voter registration. Officers confiscated drug paraphernalia along with voter registration forms from the home. The occupant of the home, Georgianne Pitts, age 41, advised law enforcement, along with Ohio B.C.I.&I., that she had been recruited by Thaddeus J. Jackson, II, of Cleveland, to obtain voter registrations. Pitts admitted to paying Staton crack cocaine for the registrations in lieu of money.

A business card provided by Pitts indicated that Jackson is the Assistant NVF Ohio Director of the NAACP National Voter Fund.

The initial complaint received by the Sheriff's Office came from the Defiance County Board of Elections. The Board had received the 100 plus registration forms from the Cuyahoga Board of Elections that had been submitted to the Cuyahoga Board by the NAACP National Voter Fund.
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#272353 - 10/18/04 04:57 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
goharley Offline
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I can't believe the GOP would stoop to such measures just to register voters.
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#272354 - 10/26/04 09:34 PM Re: Kerry supporters Gone Wild!
John Lee Hookum Offline
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October 25, 2004

It Is The Wolves In The White House Who Are Preying Upon Democracy,
And Gorging On Its Carcass

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

Here's the crucial difference between the GOP theft of the election in
2000 and their efforts to steal the 2004 White House campaign.

In 2000, they were outside the government trying to steal their way
in, with Florida as ground zero in the mugging of democracy.

In 2004, they ARE the government: controlling the legislative,
executive and judicial branches.

They have appointed enough federal judges, combined with past right
wing appointees in the Reagan and Bush I administrations, so that any
election initiative that they support or oppose will by upheld or
struck down by an ideologically driven right wing judge somewhere
along the appellate route. Their moles are in place and ready to do
what they were appointed to the bench for: to protect the Bush regime
and the interests of the Republican Party and its fundamentalist
supporters over the rights of Americans to choose their government.

It is like trying to win a football game when all the referees work
FOR the opposing team.

If you are voting in a state with a Republican Secretary of State and
a Republican Governor -- such as Florida and Ohio -- you are voting in
an environment where the Bush Cartel is using its surrogates to try
and suppress every Democratic vote that it can.

Already, through a variety of schemes, including working to ensure
that provisional votes are not counted, felon purges, the organized
dumping of Democratic registration forms, improper registration of
Democrats (to ensure that their right to vote will be denied when
challenged by a "rent-a-thug" poll watcher), to mysterious phone calls
to Democratic voters telling them to vote in the wrong precinct, to
the collection of absentee ballot requests for Dems that never show up
at the election office, to the illegal registration of students and
naturalized citizens as Republicans -- and including many, many more
GOP dirty tricks -- the Republican Party has nationalized their
Democratic voter suppression activity, using the multiple strategies
that they tried out in Florida -- and many, many more new ones. Most
of them are actions that are punishable as felonies.

But nothing will be as disgraceful an assault on democracy as the
hiring of 3,600 "rent a Republican thugs" -- at $100 a day -- to
intentionally intimidate minority and other Democratic voters from
exercising their democratic and constitutional right by creating chaos
and a menacing environment through challenging voters in Democratic
(primarily minority) districts in Ohio. Such an onslaught of
challenges on election day has the intent of tying up polling booths
through lengthy challenges (a process that was successful in dooming
the ill-fated voter recount in Florida in 2000 even before the Supreme
Court stepped in), thus forcing voters to abandon unfathomable waits
as each voter is challenged, requiring a lengthy review process of
each individual's right to vote. Secondly, the very presence of
hostile GOP thugs -- and the boastful public promotion of this
strategy by the Republican Party of Ohio (at the behest of Karl Rove,
you can be sure) -- is meant to keep fearful minority views from
coming to the voting booths in Ohio at all. This is Jim Crow redux.

Such an effort, among a multitude of voter suppression tactics adopted
by the male Katherine Harris of Ohio, Secretary of State Ken
Blackwell, a right wing Bush puppet (he's even foamingly at the mouth
anti-gay a la Rick "bestiality" Santorum), can impact tens of
thousands of votes to the detriment of John Kerry in what as shaping
up as the pivotal state of the election. Current projections indicate
that Bush cannot win the election without winning Ohio, where he is
currently behind in the polls.

That is why Blackwell -- like Katherine Harris, a Bush state campaign
co-chair -- has gone to such lengths as requiring that voter
registration forms would only be accepted on paper with a certain
weight (which he only announced shortly before the registration
deadline), until he was forced to stop implementing the requirement.

The refusal to honor provisional ballots in Ohio cast in a different
precinct, first struck down and then upheld by a federal appeals
court, could result in the loss of tens of thousands of Kerry votes.
Although the justice department had no standing in the case, John
"Bush owns my butt" Ashcroft filed an amicus brief on a similar
provisional voting case in Michigan, even though the federal
government was not a party to the suit. He was signaling to Republican
office holders throughout the U.S. that the Bush Cartel was going to
do everything possible to squash hundreds of thousands of provisional
votes, and that they should assist in anyway they could. That was his
message in the Michigan case. So you can see that this is an organized
effort of disenfranchisement, involving every level of the Bush Cartel
and their hired "consultants."

With all the right wing judges now sitting on the federal bench, not
to mention the 5-4 "Bush at any price, democracy be damned" majority
on the Supreme Court, it is only a matter of time before any appeal
that favors democracy and voting rights is struck down in favor of
Bush by some judicial ideologue who takes orders from the Federalist
Society and the Bush Administration.

It should not be forgotten that William Rehnquist, the Chief Justice
of the Supreme Court and one of the felonious five of 2000, got his
start in right wing Republican politics by serving as a "poll watcher"
in Arizona and aggressively challenging the rights of minorities to
vote as a means of disenfranchisement. (This was something that
Rehnquist committed perjury about in his confirmation hearings, by the
way. But the Democrats, when the truth emerged, were forgiving, as
always, and didn't put up a stink about our Chief Justice being found
out to have lied under oath.)

So even before most of the country votes on November 2, it is likely
that John Kerry will have been denied thousands upon thousands of
votes, well in excess of one or two hundred thousand possibly, due to
a national GOP strategy of voter suppression, intimidation and dirty
tricks, using multiple strategies.

If this is the kind of democracy that Bush is having our soldiers die
for, it is only further proof that he is a fraud. In his mind, a
democracy is the exercise of voting by white Christians who want to
turn America into a theocracy. The votes of minorities and Democrats
are to be discounted as much as possible because they do not represent
votes of "saved Christians" who are attempting to impose their faith
and morality upon a nation they consider "fallen from God."

The denial of voting rights as a national strategy is not just a
return to the days of Jim Crow, it is an indication that the Bush
Cartel has a different perspective on democracy than what is
guaranteed under our Constitution. It is the right to vote based on
one's faith and party affiliation. It is the structuring of a state
apparatus aimed at stifling democracy as we know it and replacing it
more with something that is a cross between Franco's fascism and
Stalin's Soviet style of rule.

In a story in the Boston Globe, it was revealed that White House Chief
of Staff Andrew Card recently told a gathering of Maine Bush
supporters that the man in the White House regards Americans as
10-year-olds who need a strong father figure to lead them in this time
of peril. That is the model upon which a fascist leader rules, not the
model of Constitutional democracy upon which our nation is founded.

The pre-election voter suppression currently being carried out by Rove
and company is an attempt to further erode our democracy, as the Bush
Cartel has begun the dismantling of the democratic process ever since
it first hijacked the election in 2000.

The Bush Family knows that Jeb Bush will carry Florida for Bush no
matter what. He has already succeeded in using multiple tactics to
suppress Democratic voters, particularly minorities, including
minority voter intimidation in Orlando using state police and the
second round of a felon's purge that was allegedly halted, but not
really stopped by the individual Republican-run counties. As Tom DeLay
has done in the House of Representatives several times in the past
four years, Jeb will use a variety of means to make sure that his
candidate (in the House it was Bush-backed bills) "wins" even if by
one vote. If push comes to shove, there are always the Diebold
electronic voting machines. Jeb has allowed Diebold to keep its
software counting system "proprietary," meaning that the votes in
Florida and wherever electronic voting machines are used (there are
two other pro-Republican companies supplying such machines) for the
counting of our votes has been "privatized." Republican-affiliated
companies are counting the votes of America, and we don't have the
right to know how they are counting them.

And don't forget that it was the CEO of Diebold, which is ironically
located in the Buckeye State, who pledged that he would do everything
possible to carry Ohio for Bush.

We take him at his word.

We trust the Kerry campaign, which has said that it is prepared to
take on all legal challenges, has listened closely to that pledge. It
is a pledge of allegiance to the Bush Cartel, not to America.

The institutional integrity of our democracy is at stake in this election.

Having once gotten away with the theft of the voting process, the Bush
Cartel has had four years to plan its second national robbery, now
operating from inside the government itself. They don't just have Jeb
to do the dirty work for them; they have the entire national
government, including the Department of (In) Justice.

Iraqis should take note that when Bush talks about freedom and
democracy, he is using code words for a rigged election.

That is what democracy means to the Bushes: winning at all costs, the
voters be damned.

What they have done in the pre-election period is to literally make
Democratic votes vanish before they can even be cast. That is what
they did with the infamous felon's list in Florida in 2000. Now, their
system of disenfranchisement is much more multi-pronged and elaborate.

And now, like a cancer upon our Constitution, they have spread the
disease throughout the nation.

If Kerry wins, Karl Rove plans to cry fraud at the polls, and then
shop around for a judge who agrees with him that the Democrats stole
the election.

If you think that is brazen hypocrisy, just remember Rove doesn't give
a damn.

He knows that Nino Scalia will be camped out at the Supreme Court
willing to rescue Bush from defeat, using whatever illogical partisan
argument is necessary to get the dirty deed accomplished.

After all, the Bush Cartel, their corporate cronies, and the
theocratic right own our government, don't they?

If they didn't, they might ironically argue, then how did they come to
power? They weren't elected in 2000; that's for sure.

They run elections by a different set of rules. The voting is just an
inconvenience to them. Their challenge is to come up with foolproof
ways to rig the election.

Let's just hope that their plans have a fatal flaw, such as the will
of the people triumphing over the treachery of the Bush thugs.

It's the only thing that can bring an end to an administration that
has betrayed the American Revolution, our Constitution, and the right
of one-person, one vote.

On September 11th, 2001, more than 3,000 people were horrifically
murdered by terrorists as the "leaders" of this nation ignored
warnings of an impending strike. It was an assault upon the United States.

But it is the wolves in the White House who are preying upon
democracy, and gorging on its carcass.
_________________________

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of
Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter
of the gods.

-- Albert Einstein



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