It is tempting to set some records straight and join in the political misinformation melee going on here. But NO THANKS....This board isn't fun anymore. Joking around isn't possible anymore. Insulting people and pontificating about political views is not a sport here but a religion for many. I only know a couple of people on this board personally and those I don't know are only engaged for comic relief .. When it comes to calling serious names and getting angry I can reserve that for in person exchanges.

There are two men here that I disagree with politically but respect very much personally. They know who they are. The rest are only comic book characters. Unfortunately the comic strip has turned into an xrated viscious rag.

Hopefully the country can evolve away from the deep divide it is in and we can all pay more attention to what matters....You decide what matters to you. I know what matters to me.

Well put grandpa

This board can be fun, but the personal attacks tend to ruin it. There have been many who have tried to be classy about what to say if the post election, but many are taking this as an opportunity to continue the childish personal attacks. I guess some folks are just classier than others.

Don't you worry Aunty about the fire being lit. There are some good things coming along if I can keep up the pace. We need alot more soldiers to help with what needs to be done and I think I will put my energies into recruiting and put less energy into the personal attack channel.

Ok I 'll be a good boy from now on. I just had to rub it in for a day. I am tired of politics anyhow it's been a long two years.

GP,

So I'm a comic book character engaged only for your comic relief? I thought you took me seriously. Now I'm angry!

Mad as a hornet and out of step with 52 or 53% of America,

Salmo g.

Oh, and don't forget you have no morals or family values, you blue-stater, you.

Salmo...I don't know you personally so I guess you might fit the comic book character category but I do take your fishing expertise seriously...Whether you are out of step with the majority is just one of those inevitable things we must live with. My original point is that if I disagree with you so much that I call you names and blow my cool here I should be kicked in the nuts because I don't even know you...only your ideas as expressed here which may, as in my case, not tell the whole story. I guess you and Harley are in a safe blue state so you are not too out of step in these parts.

If you break it down to counties, it looks more like this:

All those blue areas are polluted as heck so It makes sense that they are full of Environmentalist.

GP,

No problem here either. Just haven' a bit of fun.

I don't quite understand how I've ended up associated with a radical liberal element. I swear my moderate conservative values haven't changed in the last 30 years or so. But I was probably more libertarian than Republican in my leaning.

The conservative cause puts me off in two major ways. They will mix religion with government and politics, to which I take Constitutional umbrage. And they either favor, or at least don't care about, sullying public resources and property like air, water, parks and forests, fish, and wildlife, particularly when there's a private buck to be made. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against private property, but I think public property ought to be defended as fervently as private property is.

I'm confident we'll be better off as a nation for another four years having a president we can make fun of for being dumber than a box of rocks than we did of Clinton for being a womanizer.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

Hey, Krusty, you left out the legend to your map (and now new avatar), so I thought I'd post it for you:

US Election 2004
Results Listed By AVERAGE IQ...
Connecticutt -- AVG. IQ 113 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Massachusetts -- AVG. IQ 111 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
New Jersey -- AVG. IQ 111 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
New York -- AVG. IQ 109 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Rhode Island -- AVG. IQ 107 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Hawaii -- AVG. IQ 106 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Maryland -- AVG. IQ 105 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
New Hampshire -- AVG. IQ 105 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Illinois -- AVG. IQ 104 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Delaware -- AVG. IQ 103 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Minnesota -- AVG. IQ 102 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Vermont -- AVG. IQ 102 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Washington -- AVG. IQ 102 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
California -- AVG. IQ 101 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Pennsylvania -- AVG. IQ 101 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Maine -- AVG. IQ 101 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
Wisconsin -- AVG. IQ 100 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
18. Virginia -- AVG. IQ 100 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
19. Colorado -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
20. Iowa -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
21. Michigan -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
22. Nevada -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
23. Ohio -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
24. Oregon -- AVG. IQ 99 VOTE FOR PRES. -- KERRY
25. Alaska -- AVG. IQ 98 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
26. Florida -- AVG. IQ 98 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
27. Missouri -- AVG. IQ 98 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
28. Kansas -- AVG. IQ 96 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
29. Nebraska -- AVG. IQ 95 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
30. Arizona -- AVG. IQ 94 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
31. Indiana -- AVG. IQ 94 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
32. Tennessee -- AVG. IQ 94 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
33. N. Carolina -- AVG. IQ 93 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
34. W. Virginia -- AVG. IQ 93 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
35. Arkansas -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
36. Georgia -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
37. Kentucky -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
38. New Mexico -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
39. N. Dakota -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
40. Texas -- AVG. IQ 92 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
41. Alabama -- AVG. IQ 90 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
42. Louisiana -- AVG. IQ 90 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
43. Montana -- AVG. IQ 90 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
44. Oklahoma -- AVG. IQ 90 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
45. S. Dakota -- AVG. IQ 90 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
46. S. Carolina -- AVG. IQ 89 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
47. Wyoming -- AVG. IQ 89 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
48. Idaho -- AVG. IQ 87 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
49. Utah -- AVG. IQ 87 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH
50. Mississippi -- AVG. IQ 85 VOTE FOR PRES. -- BUSH


Ya know, if you studied real hard, I'll bet you could fool Mississippi into believing you're smart enough for them.

This is my favorite new talking point from the Michael Moore extreme left.....the people who voted for Bush are Neandrethals and have not developed or evolved as far as the progressive liberals have. Probably why they have to use the courts to legislate from the bench to push their enlightened and more intelligent agenda that the majoity of stupid Americans would never go for.

"They will mix religion with government and politics, to which I take Constitutional umbrage. And they either favor, or at least don't care about, sullying public resources and property like air, water, parks and forests, fish, and wildlife, particularly when there's a private buck to be made"

Care to support the first with an example?

Also I would bet that the biggest examples environmental damage in this country occured under a democratic presidency.

Damn... Idaho has avg I.Q of 87 and comes in at number 48... My kids are going to wonder why I am being such an ass about them getting all homework done all of a sudden.

You gotta love scramble of the lefties to make sense of their loss.

Look at the county by county view. Let's compare the high school drop out rate county by county. While those tiny blue spots do often congregate around major leftist university areas full of 'enlightened' individuals, they are also the areas with the poorest and least educated populations. The perfect minions to fall victom to the lies and empty promises of the liberal activists.

Besides these inner city and liberal university areas, the other blue specs tended to be along the mexican border. Another group easily victomized by the preditors on the left looking for someone's hopes and dreams to steal.

Enlightened, and yes why shouldn’t we feel so

Copied and pasted from the Universal Press

“So our guy lost the election. Why shouldn't those of us on the coasts feel superior? We eat better, travel more, dress better, watch cooler movies, earn better salaries, meet more interesting people, listen to better music and know more about what's going on in the world. If you voted for Bush, we accept that we have to share the country with you. We're adjusting to the possibility that there may be more of you than there are of us. But don't demand our respect. You lost it on November 2. “

"But don't demand our respect."

Why would we want the respect of people that stand for everything we are against?

If you would like to see something based on facts check this site out and the links that show where the info comes from.

:rolleyes:

GH and a few others just have PETS so be easy.

POST ELECTION TRAMATIC SYNDROME.

"Intelligence appears to be the thing that enables a man to get along without education. Education enables a man to get along without the use of his intelligence."

Albert Wiggam

Big Surprise LT, you cut and paste some crap from Ted Rall. That is the guy who cheered when Pat Tillman was killed. He is about as far left as you can get. How many books of his do you read? That sure explains a lot about you though taking quotes from that nut.... Or should I say pea and the pod?

article

"We eat better"

Hmmm, I do love our seafood, but in general, the food is way too expensive for what you get. I guess if you are a sushi lover or just have to have tiny portions of french style 'meals' that cost $150 just for the presentation, then maybe you have a point. But I'll take some good ole Texas BBQ or a thick juicy slab of midwest beef any day
Sorry if that offends of you liberal tofu eating PETA members...

" travel more"
You (we) HAVE to travel more. Traffic sucks so bad, we on the coast practically live in our cars. Then we feel the NEED to travel - away from the city - just to get away.

" dress better"
LOL. Have you been to Capital Hill or Fremont lately.

" watch cooler movies"
Do you (does he) mean the limitted release \ low budget \ foreign type films? Have at em...
Most of us really don't mind missing out on the Gay and Lesbian film festival...

"earn better salaries"
We HAVE to to afford to live here.

"meet more interesting people"
LOL. Back to fremont and capital hill. "interesting" indeed....

" listen to better music"
LOL

" and know more about what's going on in the world."
LOL. Yes you do. In your own little word that is...


LOL. Point in case about the rose colored glasses....

I for one, am personally glad to see that the partisan animosity is still alive and well here.

It would be AWFUL boring without it... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm sorry..


http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/

Don't worry more that half of us know you are sorry...

Big Suprise once again PM does not like what I say. I mean why bother responding to me, did you think I was typing this while thinking I have finally convinced PM. :p

Nice pics of those "sorry" lefties. So those are the 'enlightened' ones, eh?

You're right LT. Why should anyone reply to what anyone posts? I mean this is just a discussion forum. Besides, I didn't see anything that you wrote, I responded to the pasting of part of an article written by a socialist Ahole.

Didn't mean to get your up in arms. Must be a rough week

"those of us on the coasts feel superior"

Guess he forgot that the Carolinas, Georgia,Fla, Miss,Ala,Louis,Tx are on the coast as well being he is so smart and all.

Subject: best election graphs I've seen

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/

This about sums it up.


http://filmstripinternational.com/

LT's paste from the "Universal Press" obviously was crafted by someone sucking on a sour lollipop. It certainly makes me wonder what universe the writer (not necessarily LT) was from...

Anyone who says lefties or Kerry supporters "eat better" has never traveled or only dines in fast food joints, but then again Southern fast food is better overall than what we have around here.

As an avid food groupie, I will say that Southern cooking is hands-down superior to what we have in the Northwest, salmon, crab and oysters included. Food is also very good in New York City, but upstate New York, part of a blue state, I believe, is so abysmal that I'm going to pack a survival kit the next time I visit. Food in Minnesota and Wisconsin is barely past muster, and some of the dining experiences in northern Wisconsin, home of the pig's eye, require more beer than in available in the whole state-- I mean there is a reason that Wisconsinites drink a lot.

To settle any discussion about Southern food versus that is the secessionist left coast, I have only one thing to say:

"New Orleans."

WTIC,

Keith

Hey, AM-- If you lived in the South and can only recall "collard greens and burnt fish" then your time there was either a) spent in jail or b) spent with some really bad cooks. If you really like good food, then you missed out, and I feel very, very, VERY sorry for you.

Peel 'em and eat 'em shrimp right off the boat from the Gulf will make normal people forget about any steak from the Midwest, and just because beef in the Midwest is good doesn't mean the folks there know how to cook it-- although I will give Wisconsin credit for their brats. Although the very best Midwest steak I've ever had came from a little steak house (Jake's?) in Tuscumbia, Alabama. It beat the stuff at Lawry's in Las Vegas or Ruth's Chris Steakhouse hands down. I better stop because I think I just gained five pounds thinking about Southern food....

Keith

Good idea.. Hijack this thread... You mention Ruths Chris steakhouse... Best tasting over priced meal of my life.. and I do mean over priced ( two people, one drink apiece, 138 dollars) And that was just a couple steaks and two side dishes. Can't wait to go back there.

Ditto on just about everything you said there AM. I lived in Savannah, Ga. for awhile and loved it but always found myself wanting some REAL seafood and thinking of the GPNW. Way to much deep fried food down there. They fry EVERYTHING and anything you could dream of. To tell you the truth not one thing from down there really stands out. Hush puppies? NO. Fried Okra? NO. Chitlins? A big HE!! NO. Ham hocks? What the heck is a ham hock anyway?

One thing that does stand out though and that was those Georgia Peaches... Now those sure were sweet!

Oh and Pecan Pie!

OK, Aunty M-- I concede especially about potlucks although you have to pick and choose (avoid Cub Scout potlucks and go to those by Episcopalians, IMHO)---- and you are right on the money with the crabs-- crab in the South is a waste of protein, calories and effort, especially soft shell. But I will lay money down on my comments of upstate New York and New Orleans (the only city other than Seattle where you can get good coffee nearly everywhere, lousy beer though).

As for the warmwater fish-- if you're talking species, you're dead wrong, and I'm willing to prove it (Did I hear cook-off?). If you're talking fish from warm, Southern freshwater, you're absolutely right-- with the exception of bluegill and crappie.

Keith

A BIG on that statement PM!

I lived in Atlanta for a while in the mid 80's and I came awful close to 'harvesting' one, but the crop was so bountiful that I spent all my time sampling it... tryin' to pick the right one!

Salt

Many a good time in Hotlanta. The perimeter, Buckhead, Peachtree St.... Oh the memories, you could almost call me a migrant worker for all the peaches I was pickin'. There were a few sour one's though, a few that were a little softer than others and there were those ones had been handled a little more than the others... Also did some picking in Athen's at the UG right when R.E.M came outta there. Crazy, crazy, crazy...

Still got some of my best friends living/working in Atlanta. I hear from them about once a week trying to get me to move down there. Probably run into a little trouble if that was to happen

Georgia... Yep... 2 day pass from Ft Benning. Made it at least 6 blocks from base... Columbus. Drank to much to remember any food. Georgia peaches would have nothing to do with us.. and hookers would not leave us alone.. On second day we pretty much beat each other up.. went back to base with 2 day hangovers...

My two real days in public in the south.

AAAA Atlanta..Lynchburg Lemonade....

It's good to see ya guys not taking this stuff so serious

I thought I saw someone mention bluegill and crappie. Now THERE is some fine tasting freshwater fish. It sure brings back the childhood memories... that and the sweet iced tea.... or "sweet tea" as it is referred to in Virginia.

And I don't think they grow a finer tasting watermellon then what is available in North Carolina... close to Fayetteville.