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#274654 - 11/16/04 03:40 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
goharley Offline
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LOL. Respecting someone and approving of what they do are two different things. LOL.

LOL. By the way, you're a pretty happy little fella. LOL.
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#274655 - 11/16/04 04:02 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
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Grandpa,

Misunderstanding rules the day on internet bulletin boards I guess.

It’s not disdain for Israel. There are many good people of Israel not meriting disdain, roughly half, last I heard. It’s Israeli government sponsored and military implemented terrorism against Palestinians that has me riled. And I do believe it qualifies as state sponsored terrorism, where the Israeli caused casualties are non-combatant Palestinian women and children more often than combatants.

My respect for Arafat was simply what I claimed: he commanded the respect and admiration of his people for a period of decades because he championed their cause. An objective analysis likely would label him a freedom fighter, terrorist or not. If I were a Palestinian, then I’d probably idolize him. But I’m not. I’m a white American seeking to understand the craziness in this world.

PP,

It’s a different respect for Hitler. His charisma charmed most of the population of a major educated and industrialized nation. Scary, but something to respect, but not in a good way. And I’d be a fool not to respect OBL for what he was able to achieve against our country. Respect isn’t always about admiration. I respect OBL like I’d respect a large rattlesnake that was up close and about to get personal. I think it’s worth thinking about why OBL is a hero to many Arabs. Failing to understand the enemy is a fool’s game in my opinion. And as Harley says, having respect for someone is hardly the same as approving of what they do.

TK,

I think the Khmer Rouge followers did so out of fear. I don’t recall ever hearing that Idi Amin was loved by millions, although he was feared by many, perhaps millions. The Jim Jones followers take the cake, tho.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#274656 - 11/16/04 05:04 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
Theking Offline
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re·spect ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-spkt)
tr.v. re·spect·ed, re·spect·ing, re·spects
To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
To relate or refer to; concern.

n.
A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard.
The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.
respects Polite expressions of consideration or deference: pay one's respects.
A particular aspect, feature, or detail: In many respects this is an important decision.
Usage Problem. Relation; reference. See Usage Note at regard.
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#274657 - 11/16/04 06:07 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
goharley Offline
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respect

\Re*spect"\ (r?*sp?kt"), 1. To take notice of; to regard with special attention; to regard as worthy of special consideration; to heed.


Geez, that was easy. Nothing about approving of their actions, holding them in esteem, appreciating their actions ....


By the way, great objective viewpoint, Salmo.
" Failing to understand the enemy is a fool’s game in my opinion."
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#274658 - 11/16/04 06:31 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
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Registered: 04/02/01
Posts: 474
Loc: University Place Washington
Some 7-11's were stoked and gave out free slurpies some ampm's were pissed and raised the price on hot dogs, it comes down to which side of the blood line you are on. Both sides the Isras and the Palestin's have terroristic ways, in my view they can both go get screwed, they are fighting over a useless fight, let them kill each other if thats what they want, I sure as hell am not going to praise either of them. Notice I don't praise Bush either. The only man I could trust in our office right now is John Mccaine, well I guess David Lee Roth is sacing lives these days to being a paramedic so I guess I could go for him and his state of the union speech. "I like the way the line runs of the back of the stocking, no no no don't take em' off I like those kind of high heels too." The only war their would be between Hagar, a breif and short attempt by Gary Sherone, and then in the end Roth would rock the vote. But yeah on the Arafat issue, I have shed no tear and won't.
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#274659 - 11/16/04 07:15 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
Theking Offline
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Harley,

If you stayed in school you would have learned how webster structures it's def's. The most common usage on top the least common last. Your use of the term is least common.
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#274661 - 11/17/04 01:27 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
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Registered: 06/19/01
Posts: 1066
Loc: North Bend, WA
TK - how dare you challenge Salmo Don't you know by now that we are supposed to read his mind to know what he INTENDED and not what he actually said. "when I said xyz, I meant 345". Maybe Bob could help us out and put a filter on Salmo's posts to show the appropriate translation?

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#274662 - 11/17/04 06:47 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
Salmo g. Offline
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PP,

Yeah, right. If I'd known you're not worth the bother, I wouldn't have tried to communicate with you. Sorry, I'll try not to repeat the error.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#274663 - 11/17/04 08:12 PM Re: Is Arafat a hero?
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Arafat was a thug to many and a hero to many. Certainly he sponsored terrorism... but he is not alone in that department. Everyone has their own opinion and mine is that Mr. Arafat spent more of his life being a part of the peace problem than being part of the peace solution.

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