TK, What the ADA and other organizations are saying is Some people are more susceptible to become dependant of certain things than others. It is NOT always by choice.

Not to be criticle but there is a difference between reading a lot of books and being well read.

BW,

I know full well what the intent of the ADA is and the majority of it is BS. The majority of it is treating the symptom rather than the cause. To put things in a box to make it easy to justify certain actions given our societies structure.Take substance abuse as an example as it applies to this topic. The ADA does not require or set a side diagnosis and treatment of all underlying causes to the susbstance abuse as a requirement of diagnosis and treatment of the symptom. Meaning you meet the criteria by simple diagnosis and most corporate insurance programs will pay for treatment of the "disease" never treating the whole person just the "disease" which is really just a symptom of other causes. The number one cause of recidivism is not treating underlying causation of the abuse. Happy ,fullfilled ,content whole individuals do not make the choice to abuse substances. They are many socitites on earth that allow of blind studies to thses behaviors.

Sorry RB. I am not willing to part with any of my sticks.

It is driving me crazy... what is your moniker's name?

Your blue collar, Readers digest conclusions on this issue are well demonstrated by your last post "when children are abused, it's their faults. When a person is a victim of a drive by shooting, it's their own fault. If someone busts your car window and steals stuff, it was their own fault"

In no instance is the other party consenting to enter into a relationship in your examples.

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The avatar is 'Triumph the Insult Comic'

The moniker name itself (Rory Bellows) is an obscure charactor reference from the TV classic 'The Simpsons'

To his credit, Goharley was the first one who was enlightened enough to figure it out.

The issue being discussed was never about permission our fault it was about choice. Specifically being a single mom for any other reason than the death or debilitating injury of their spouse.

Rory: I thought I heard the name Rory bellows on a recent Simpsons rerun. I ws so dumb I though it was a coincidence. I was planning on telling you about it. Doh . . now I get it! Yes, I watch the Simpson and am proud of it!

BW,

Loved your Achem's razor analogy with TK as the example. I couldn't possibly have said it better myself. Thanks for stating it so clearly.

It's getting hilarious. At this point in this thread, we have TK urging the identification and treatment of a root cause instead of symptoms. Yet in earlier threads regarding terrorism, he was all about treating the symptom - killing terrorists - and dismissing identifying and treating the root cause of what causes people to become and commit terrorist acts against the U.S. It looks like our own forum genius, TK, is a practitioner of, if not believer in, situational logic.

TK,

Earlier in this thread you stated that, "single motherhood is as preventable as AIDS." You allowed for no exceptions, indicating that every woman can know with absolute certainty whether she is entering into a relationship with a potential jerk or abuser. Even then, you weren't allowing death or dibilitating disease as exceptions. Your use of absolutes - were certainty does not and cannot exist - discredits the potential value you might add. Hence, that's why when you claimed you're an interesting person, I disagreed and suggested you're really just an entertaining pompous a$$. But it's just the choices you make . . .

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

Aunty my money's on you for kicking TK's a$$

Salmo,

It's interesting how you read things with your supoerior scientific pomposity.

"he was all about treating the symptom - killing terrorists - and dismissing identifying and treating the root cause of what causes people to become and commit terrorist acts against the U.S. It looks like our own forum genius, TK, is a practitioner of, if not believer in, situational logic."

I asked you 6 months ago to pontificate on the root cause of radical Islam. All you could do was talk about how anxious you where over the discussion. Pleasse feel free to start another thread to discuss the root causee and how to treat it and I will join in and bonk you like the Brat you are. I nthe words of your favorite president " bring it on!"

Back to the topic.


"Earlier in this thread you stated that, "single motherhood is as preventable as AIDS." You allowed for no exceptions,"

How is this an absolute? Aids is not 100% preventable because you can get it from other than choice. Contracting aids can be from Sexual contact ,IV drug use etc. are all choices. Just like entering into a poor relationship is a choice. Both have many tests that can eliminate most of the risk. Yet our society puts little value on stable relationships and resposibility and more on personal freedom. That being given kids rasied by single parents and the issues that revolve around it are acceptable byproducts. So I would guess that your problem is that you do not think through the problem before you start pontificating. Maybe being anxious is the root cause more than ego or intelligence.

"Yes, men DO have a choice NOT to abuse TK. You BLAMED the woman.

Please show me where I blamed abused women 1 time ?

I will address you no longer until you can or apologize.

You know what is scary? He thinks he is making scence.

BW,

I can cite source after source for my postion can you?

Tk

I don't think anyone here dosn't think you haven't done some research. A large part of my job is in research. The problem is you also have to correlate it and then draw an intelligente conclusion. You kind of fall down on that part.

You try to paint with too broad of brush, and when someone calls you on it you cannot argue your possition with any success. You have in fact lost in every exchange with Salmo G (I wonder if that will get me a fishing trip,) and AuntyM ( have gone fishing with her a couple of times). What is sad it you have not even realized that you have been out argued. That is what we find so entertaining. Anyway I have some real work to do so have a nice day.

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[qb] Tk

The problem is you also have to correlate it and then draw an intelligente conclusion. You kind of fall down on that part.

You try to paint with too broad of brush, and when someone calls you on it you cannot argue your possition with any success.

Too funny.. way accurate description of the King.... I do enjoy reading his views however.. sort of like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Soooooo Aunty, can I come to dinner?

Desperation, I have to cook for myself for a week. No one should have to eat what I cook.

BW,

The problem is you also have to correlate it and then draw an intelligente conclusion. You kind of fall down on that part.

Prove it ! just saying it does not make it so.

Two great friends are Phd Psychs practicing in Marriage and family therapy forgive me if I take their view over yours. Your view might make sese to the lay person but as you might be aware research and application sometimes are counter intuitive.

BRun,

You talk pretty big for a guy that is not smart enough to make a phone call and then when he screws it up does not take responsibility for it and tries to stick the company for his mistake. But then again 28% is like everyone in your universe