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#278810 - 07/21/05 11:52 AM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
Chives Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 156
The point was Rove. I can understand why you'd want to change the subject and so you did. "walk the talk" you say or your opinions is worthless, then you wonder why we ask you to adhere to the same standards. "I am walking the talk" you then say "because i pay taxes".



Your argument that one has to own 5 acres of land to be concerned about environmental abuse was absurd. When we ask you to apply these absurd standards of yours to your own actions, you cry like a baby "I dont have to enlist cause there is no draft"..."these mean liberals keep telling me to enlist, thats such a stupid argument!"...yes numbutz it is a stupid argument...and it is YOUR argument.

Then to top it all off, you seem to loose sight of the fact that YOU brought up the whole "enlist" thing your self by repeating your moronic mantra "walk the talk" or your opinions are worthless.

I dont think there is a person on this site, or even on this planet, liberal conservative or otherwise who would attempt to defend your position. It is undefendable. It defeats itself with its own reverse logic.

So what say you...any non-liberals out there wanna come to the aid of your buddy theKing? Is it a valid argument that one's concerns about environmental abuse are not valid unless that person owns 5 acres of land?
But on the other hand, theKings opinions on Iraq (or whatever else) are valid because he pays alot of taxes?

Just admit your argument sucked Kingy, or be prepared to hold yourself to the same ridiculous standards you wish to apply to everyone elses opinion.

Hypocracy and ignorance are not partisan, not liberal or conservative...just sad. Sad and very dangerous....our boys are dying now because of it. Because of you and people like you.

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#278812 - 07/21/05 12:18 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13563
TK,

As Chives said, "walk the talk" was your argument, and you made it so with your 5 acres of riparian habitat example. Sorry, paying taxes isn't walking the talk. We all pay taxes whether we like it or not or whether we support the war or not. Ergo, using your own self-imposed standard of walking the talk, when it comes to the war in Iraq, you ain't walking your talk. So you're just another chickenhawk cheerleader.

Salmo

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#278813 - 07/21/05 12:26 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
Theking Offline
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 4756
Loc: The right side of the line
SG,

If that was the case then all you yellow bellied libs would have to enlist to have an opinion about the war as well. You would also have to be a firefighter, Policeman,coast guard and on and on and on. All you have to do is be a citizen to have a vote IE an opinion in this country by the rule of law. That is not true with choices like restoring salmon runs. Specifically where ones lifestyle is the main culprit in the decline.
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#278817 - 08/03/05 07:34 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
Theking Offline
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Posts: 4756
Loc: The right side of the line
Either the wheels of justice really do turn slowly or this is just a lefty media attempt to smear a guy ? I vote for the smear as Rove will never be charged except by the conspiracy therorists.
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#278819 - 08/05/05 03:14 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
stever in everett Offline
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Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
Why do you think that Shrub quickly went on a five week "working" vacation back to Texas. He is trying to distance himself from Rove and Scooter, that way he won't be hounded by the press for the next five weeks and won't have to answer and embarrassing questions which he can't or won't answer.
The problem with a liar isn’t that he can’t be believed, it is that he can’t believe others, that is why so many right winger neo cons don’t believe the truth when presented with the facts. They have lied so often that they don’t even know what the truth really is and continue to spew their party line of B.S.
Fact #1 Bush is a liar, lied about WMD, lied about the reason for going to war in Iraq and now won’t face up to the truth.
Fact #2 Rove and Channey’s aid “Scooter” out’ed Plume to punish Wilson.
Fact#3 G.W. Shrub is the worst president in my lifetime and should be impeached
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#278820 - 08/07/05 11:56 AM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
Chives Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 156
five week vacation? The president of the united states takes a five week vacation?

Bush is a criminal..plain and simple.

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#278823 - 08/28/05 12:05 AM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
I gotta give credit where due. Auntym you are no doubt the Paragon of Put Down. I applaud your expertise. No lady could come close.

I hate to see someone badmouthing Ollie. If it wasn't so obvious that he was operating in the plausible deniability mode the charges would not have been pardoned. He shouldered the blame for the CinCs duplicity. So be it. I personally consider him a fine soldier. He would probably be more acceptable to some if he sold national security data to the Chinese for Campaign Funds.

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#278825 - 08/28/05 01:17 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
See AuntyM you can make a post without putting someone down. My congratulations. yes I singled you out. It seemed to me, anyone that would take on the AuntyM psuedonym would be a friendly bovine beauty not a pit viper in camo. Thus my derogatory comments. You be nice, I know you can, and I will stop shining a bright light on your foolishness.
Maybe I will go talk to KK, you made him sound so interesting a while back. He is obviously a bright guy wasting his talents in the wrong cause. His being on the wrong side of the 'force' could be changed if he actually has an open mind.
Didn't mean to wake you up, it is Sunday after all. Ciao

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#278827 - 08/28/05 07:28 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Oh AuntyM, touchy touchy, lol. Here I said something that could have been taken as a compliment and you revert to form. Actually I have no time for romance. I'm married. However, I would consider planting a kiss on your shiny cheeks but you have too many rollers in the way. I am glad to see that your IQ exceeds one.

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#278829 - 08/28/05 09:01 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
I'm having too much fun drawing parallels between some of the denizens of this site and similiar entities on another site. Many here use the same psuedonym, but some do not. A challenge. Much different than the poor abused only female with a gift for insulting gab. I think you are fun AuntyM. Your need to bash others in any and all modes you can conjure is as you said, pathetic.
Fencing can be fun but you should use a epee or a foil not a plowshare.

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#278831 - 08/28/05 11:20 PM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
sardonicus Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Ah ms Mensa Society. You must have a fine mirror to determine the idiots and morons out there. lol. But it is true that I can see you are starting to calm down. Must be a cyclic thing. Issues? There are so many I hardly know where to start. I guess curiosity would be a good place. I have read a lot of posts on this forum and I find it strange that although you seem to be a red white and blue patriot in some areas, I find you aligned with the local lusty liberals in another area. Maybe it's just the lusty part that attracts you.??

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#278832 - 08/29/05 11:27 AM Re: Its Official-Rove/Bush are traitors
John Lee Hookum Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
Quote:
Originally posted by AuntyM:
I sure wish I knew why Novak isn't being prosecuted. I haven't read anything, anywhere, stating that Fitzgerald plans to prosecute him in the future and he damn well should be.

Quote:
In a column published Oct. 1, 2003, Novak wrote that the CIA official he spoke to "asked me not to use her name, saying she probably never again will be given a foreign assignment but that exposure of her name might cause 'difficulties' if she travels abroad. He never suggested to me that Wilson's wife or anybody else would be endangered. If he had, I would not have used her name."

I have to say, Novak knew exactly who Plame was and what her role was with the CIA and he "outed" her anyway. His above statement is a BS smoke screen for his wrong doing. I read the text of the law and it seems to me that Novak, knowingly revealed her identity and should be held accountable for his actions, every bit as much as anyone in the administration.
I'm in total agreement with you on this one. Novak needs to walk the plank for that sh-t. What's up with that anyway?
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