#309691 - 08/21/05 12:49 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 508
Loc: NE Seattle
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Hey BOB you should probably close this b4 some unsuspecting seat belt violater winds up with a night stick up his arse! :rolleyes:
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#309692 - 08/21/05 01:13 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/20/05
Posts: 151
Loc: Seattle
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If the duck was captive bred, it must be either toe clipped, tattood, pinioned or banded.....it was none of the above, thus a wild mallard.
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#309693 - 08/21/05 02:28 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 254
Loc: Renton WA
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How do you figure that Homer... I grew up on a farm with lots of ducks, we never clipped 'em. Only time I have ever seen clipped ducks is around the bigger farms, Wish my world was black and white...
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#309695 - 08/21/05 03:11 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3739
Loc: Sheltona Beach
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Homer, Thanks for the legal language. :p Welcome aboard!
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#309696 - 08/21/05 08:54 PM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/20/05
Posts: 151
Loc: Seattle
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Her claim was that she got the duck from a friend who raises mallards. If the duck was white, green, purple or red (domestic type duck) then there would be no problem. Since it was a mallard, it had to have one of those identifiers before she could keep it. I'm sorry, but I have to side with the wardens on this one. Where do you draw the line? Pick up a baby fawn and bring it home, pick up a baby raccoon and bring it home, pick up a baby whatever and bring it home......I don't think so. Wildlife belongs in the wild. Someone in that office was bothered enough by her having that duck in diapers and waddling around on tile floors to call it in. Personally, I'm outraged that the director of the department gave them the duck back and didn't back his officers. My two cents worth even if it doesn't have anything to do with fishin'.
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#309698 - 08/22/05 03:19 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3739
Loc: Sheltona Beach
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Homer... Things like this should be looked into. It's just the action taken by enforcement seems to be out of proportion to the situation; that doesn't sit well with me. And I'm no fan of the Director too.
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#309699 - 08/22/05 06:26 PM
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Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 387
Loc: Tacoma
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Goinfishin sounds like an officer I would enjoy socializing with. He seems to have a sense of humor and keeps the macho crap in check. The officers involved could have walked away at any time, but they just had to get that duck no matter the cost. Just how far would they have taken it if the woman went totally psycho on them? It was her pet after all and their is no telling how far some people will go to protect their pet. Would they have drawn their weapons? At what point would they have decided it wasn't worth it? Again, common sense left the building as they walked in. Just my opinion, but the officers lost their cool when the lady refused to hand over the duck. They should have just walked away...but macho officers don't put up with having their authority questioned.... I'll be curious to hear the final outcome of this story.
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#309700 - 08/23/05 12:53 AM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 08/20/05
Posts: 151
Loc: Seattle
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I'm sure there could have been other ways to handle the situation but consider this.....the Game Wardens that responded to the duck call did so because a concerned citizen made a complaint about a woman holding wildlife in captivity. If the wardens faild to respond, they would have been in trouble for not enforcing the law. Could they have gotten a search warrant? Certainly......and wasted countless hours of a judge, and prosecutors getting that warrant. They didn't need a warrant because it was in a business open to the public and they were taken voluntarily to see the duck in the back room. The lady who had the duck admitted that her boyfriend, the miserable bafoon who owned the business, was the one who caught the duckling in the first place and gave it to her. He's the one who made all the stink and pushed his weight around with all of his name dropping and somehow scared the F&W director into making an outrageous decision to give her the duck back. Auburn prosecutor's laughed in his face and refused to file charges against the wardens....does that tell you anything? I think that from now on, any Game Warden in Washington is going to refuse to take any action when a citizen calls with a holding wildlife in captivity complaint.......why should they when their director craps backwards on them all the time.
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#309701 - 08/23/05 09:43 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 04/04/00
Posts: 749
Loc: LAKEWOOD,WA,USA
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Just wondering where you get that idea ET? They counldn't just walk away. When an officer has started dealing with a violation he must follow through with it. the only exception would be something like a high speed chase where inocent lives could be at stake.
This just showed a lack of respect for law enforcement and our judicial system in general. What she should have done is surrendered the duck peacefully. And then challenged it in court.
That is the way the system is supposted to work
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#309703 - 08/23/05 10:26 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/21/01
Posts: 387
Loc: Tacoma
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Originally posted by BW: Just wondering where you get that idea ET? They counldn't just walk away. When an officer has started dealing with a violation he must follow through with it. the only exception would be something like a high speed chase where inocent lives could be at stake.
This just showed a lack of respect for law enforcement and our judicial system in general. What she should have done is surrendered the duck peacefully. And then challenged it in court.
That is the way the system is supposted to work I'm just wondering where you get that idea, BW? Anyone can just walk away at anytime. It just takes a little self control. Police officers do it all the time. Remember WTO? They can walk away from that, but not a lady with a duck? Just because the officers aren't shown "respect" doesn't mean they have to pursue an issue to the end. Just imagine what it would be like if officers pursued anyone that didn't show them the "proper" respect.
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