10 points??? Good God! I only have 3 points and I was expecting good things this year.

do the points really matter??

My uncle drew a branched bull tag year before last, so his points reset. Then last year drew a cow tag. Seems to me there is no rhyme or reason to their system.

Dog fish, i am not to worried about it anymore. There were people that were told over the phone what unit and tag they were actually drawn for, byu the olympia office...
And if i did wait untill the last day to submit my choices i would kick my own a$$ because i know what happened last year and they put out many warnings to submit early, because there would be no extension, then what happened??? People flooded the sysytem and messed it up again.
I waited until the multi season permit was was drawn for the second time, no dice so i submitted my apps a couple days before the deadline...
I would love to see the drawing in jan feb march time frame...

But i was told there winter survival study is not done untill late, that is why i drawings are last...

Heck maybe now i will get my desert mule deer hunt...

Just got an email saying the drawing can now be viewed....
Good luck guys!
Dogfish if you get drawn for a moose hunt I'd love to tag along.

I see Salty beat me to the punch.
Let's hear about your draws guys.

Now the servers down! CONSPIRACY I TELL YA!

The site is down, because everyone and there brother is on the site!

Ryan

You gotta be wrong there Elkman. Everyone is conspiring against me. Shhhh!......did you just hear that?

I'm happy...my brother and I both drew a muzzleloader Toutle cow permit, and we applied separately. I had 1 point, and I think my brother had 3. I'm looking forward to that hunt. It'll be a nice change from hunting eastern Washington and only being able to kill spikes. Plus this is a lot closer to home...just think of all the money we'll save on gas.

Andy,

I will wait 30 minutes, and then switch to see if we can get our results.

Ryan

I just called 360 902 2515. The gal told me I was a loser, my wife is a loser, and my nephew who thought he had a big bull tag is a loser too! Oh well at least I can head East and shoot a cow elk starting Aug. 1st. Good luck.

Wow, now we all know the draw is "final", but we can't view it. Is this the same contractor with the poor server issues our the state that can't support the traffice? Anyone know a secret to get a result? Some of you, congratulations, know the results. Is it just persistence on the look up?

Just got my results. No joy on any hunts. 0 for 5. Best of luck on yours. I just kept trying and finally it worked.

Server is overloaded.

Dogfish-

They(WDFW) sent a notice out stating "don't wait for the last minute to put in for your special hunt application". And I can honestly say that if I waited until the last day and didn't get mine submitted I wouldn't have a problem with that. My falut for waiting til the last min. The problem is this has happened for the last 3 F'ing years! Maybe they should get some more server space? I know there has to be something that can be done to fix this year after year problem!

And for the record who gives a [censored] how many times youv'e siad it. If it was just a test they shouldn't have even released the F'ing results, sub-contractor or not! Pull your head out of your ass. You are the only one on this board/topic that is defending the WDFW!

i got the same crappy results that I had the first time around!

just got my results- Archery Elk for Toutle YAAHHHOOOOO!!

I definitely like the results. I tried for 2 hours this morning to get results.Finally gave up and went fishing.Got home and tried again a bit ago.Talk about anticipation.

YeeeeeHaaaaaw!!!!!Took over 10 years but the kid and I drew Margaret Muzzleloader bull tags.Stoked is an understatement.!!!!!

Ive only ever put in for Margaret bull as #1 and Toutle bull as #2 though

Still pissed about how this whole thing was handled.I really hope some heads roll over this.

I also really feel for the guys and gals that though they had drawn but ended up with nothing after the so called TEST RUN

HntnFsh

I agree with Dogfish. The WDFW never posted results and now some people are mad because they didn't get drawn. It's not their fault your luck wasn't good. Not everybody can have a permit, that's the reason for the draw!

No,WDFW never posted the results.
But I have heard of a few people that were told by WDFW people in Olympia that they drew.And What they drew. So yes I think they have a right to bitch!

If not for that and the only info they got was by doing the end around to Outdoor Centrals sight.Then ya I agree to.But thats not the case in a few instances.

HntnFsh

So a clerk who answers the phone looked up the results of the first messed up draw, and told somebody what they drew. Oh well. That's too bad, and surely would be disappointing for the few people that it happened to, but it also would not be fair to use the results of a drawing that did not use people's bonus points. They probably should not have given out any results before it was all verified and became official, but they did. The people that work for the WDFW are human, and make mistakes like everybody else. Nothing is perfect. Hopefully it will work out better next time. This was the first year that they have used an outside vendor. Give them a break. Some people get too worked up over this. Look on the bright side...we got notification July 20th when it could have been July 31st.

HuntnFish, aren't you glad they did the draw again correctly, and used your points, so that you and your kid were able to draw your Margaret bull permits?

Like I said in my last post( might want to re-read) it doesn't matter who posted it. WDFW hired the company to do the drawings. The rules should be set up front. It's pretty easy guys. NO RESULTS RELEASED UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN VARIFIED, TEST OR NOT. As many people have already stated, this isn't the first time for the server problem.

I'm not to worked up. Just amazes me that the people running our game dept. can be so incompitent. I now know why our fishing and hunting privliges get less and less each year. Pretty so we all will be sitting on our thumbs watching the native americans do what we all love to do HUNT & FISH.

All in All just another reason to look to the south or east for my hunting and fishing oppertunities. Most every other state within 12 hours drive has there heads screwed on straight. No problems with drawing and most of the time better hunting/fishing.

Dave