What flavor Doritos? I think I saw bags from four different varieties floating down the river, so I'm not sure which is the best kind to get.

TIA.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. Anyone got a rusted out Datsun B-210, with no passenger window, door handles, ignition switch, or headlights? I'll give an extra $5 if the front fenders don't match each other, or the rest of the car...I'll also give an extra $5 if there are NRA or Bush/Cheney stickers on the back bumper...or on the trunk lid, if the back bumper is missing or too crumpled to hold a sticker well.

That should bring the total value up to about $17.50, which is enough to buy yourself the Schlitz and a new pair of flip-flops at the dollar store in Shelton.

AND WHATS WITH ALL THE PEOPLE CAMPING AT HUNTER FARMS? PAY 50 DOLLARS FOR AN ACCESS KEY, CAMP FROM AUG, 1 TIL THE NOVEMBER FLOODS PUSH YOU OUT, LIVE OFF KINGS AND THEN SILVERS AND THEN CHUMS, NOW THATS LIVIN!

C'mon now Todd! There is trash all over if you look for it! I prefer V-Hawks approach to this one. You can make a difference (I know you have Todd, in many ways, and appreciate your efforts). The idea to pick up trash is a good one. Getting in the face of the tribal and wdfw cops is another thing we can do. I made a few calls to the tribe this morning on your cleanup party Vince. I'll let you know what I hear. When the legit fishermen outnumber the lowlife trash, the fishery becomes productive. I think if you clean up the garbage and provide enough enforcement to force out the scum, things will get better. Maybe....
Cheers,
Neal

Normally I'd agree with your call, Neal...but this one is too far gone...it needs an old-fashioned scorched earth approach...just demolish the whole f'n thing, along with the "anglers", and start over from scratch...

You can't put enough lipstick on that pig to make it look like anything other than a diseased porker rolling in its own waste.

Fish on...

Todd

Neal M, thanks for saying something decent about V hawks endeavor. Im beginning to think that some people here inspite of all they have done are just full of themselves. Not picking on anyone here, but remember that a fly line is just a very long leader. V hawk, i wont make it today, seems i have a funeral service to go to. Older i get, the fuller my plate gets. For those worryed about enforcement, know that the wardens are really there this year, day before yesterday, saw four uniformed officers, yesterday, none, but assume they saw me, sneaky they are, and i like it. Its fun to find out you have been fishing next to a warden all day, ha ha

Flossers.





Before you do kill yourself, gimme a call. I want to know what sized treble hooks to use and how long of a leader I'll need when using a hook and "yarn" tomorrow. Think a 10' leader is long enough?

Jerry I have no problem fishing eggs there everyday. When it gets too crowded and I haven't got my fish yet, I go find another spot. There are ways to find fish, especially with the snaggers chase them out of the holes, you just got to know where to look.

Todd you weren't in the right spot. Stam, Neal, Tim and I fished it last night and this morning, besides us there were only 2 other people below us last night, no one this morinig. We caught a couple of fish and had a great time.

Quote from Neal:

"The idea to pick up trash is a good one. Getting in the face of the tribal and wdfw cops is another thing we can do"

Agreed. But

Vhawk: The notion of patronizing the casino when your done is repulsive to me.

Taking all the trash you collect and dropping it off in the nice new seafood bar near the front hotel lobby. Now there's a cause I could get behind!

Parker if you look me up down there, you will find me with a #1 hook with corky, and 10 ft leaders are a no no as they tend to catch the back of my ear due to a lazy hand. I do prefer to fish eggs, and often do right in the middle of the crowd, just free float them. This is the reward for your patience.

This fishery is quite the circle jerk. These fish, ostensibly, are mitigation for the upper fork's water and land use. Tacoma City Light owns the Cushman project, controls the flows for flood management?. We, fishing license holders, fund the state hatchery to provide fish to Canada(for Alaskan take of thier fishes), tribal catch, and then we get the leftovers.

Long Live the Kings had a project up the Canal at Lilliwaup to show WDFW a viable alternative to preseve wild stocks.
DFW was to busy getting worked up over numbers; just clueless or intentional? Intoxicated by number they were. Greedy, they get what they've become.

I grew up fishing the estuary in the early seventies. DFW traded sportfishing for commercial harvest in the latter years. :sad:

Hans

Just ribbin' ya a bit.

Cool photo!

Hopefully, I'll get in to a fish so I can try out my Olympus 770 underwater. Totally forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me.

Well, have fun then, fellas...Parker, don't let any floating turds get stuck in your camera.



Fish on...

Todd

THAT'S A GOOD ONE TODD !!!

I have seen snaggers on every river I have fished: Snohomish, Skagit, Cowlitz, Wallace, Lewis, Kalama...and so on.

Suggesting closing down a river just because there are snaggers on it is insane. Suggesting that someone is a snagger just because they fish a certain river is equally insane.

Many people only have a few hours to go fishing. A few hours before work, or a few hours after work. Not everyone has a boat and can devote the amount of time to fishing that some of you can.

Easy access and fish equal fishermen. It is that simple. If you see me on the Skok I will be the guy with a fly rod and flies tied on circle hooks to minimize the chance of foul hooking. And if I go, you will probably see me because I have a heart condition and can't walk that far to get away from the crowds.

So to put it bluntly, there are some arrogant elitists here who think with their gut not their head. Yes, I am offended that you think I can't fish where there are crowds and have ethics.

Earthman, it's just Todd, don't worry about it.

Shouldn't be a problem, as the high tide will/should have already washed them down river.....to Vhawk!

Hey Vince, don't eat any yellow snow or any of those floating "Baby Ruth" candy bars, ok? Actually, all things considered, compared to a QuickieMart SuperGutBombBuritto, those "candy bars" are probably the least of his worries!

Man, I have been waiting for a good Skok thread!
This one is a heap of awesome, covered in awesome sauce.

Oh, to answer the original questio; I've seen no increased enforcement at the mouth. I believe the one I saw was a Point No Point treaty. Certainly not a Fed. or stater.

I'm thinnking I don't believe any of the state's propaganda.

Wahh,Wahh,Wahh, this thread is giving me a rash. Just like the one I got last time I stood in the Skok without any waders on. LOL. I have a friend who lives in Hoodsport who invited me down to fish "his" river. What I saw was exactly what has been said here. I literaly felt sick to my consience by fishing there. Apparently there are a few members here who I have not met but I consider respected anglers who choose to fish there. Why? I have no clue. I gotta stick with Todd on this one. Enjoy the day, I hope you all get a big one " a king not a rash" and I'll see a few of you for fall kings and coho on some of the less but still heavily traveled waters of the coast in a few months. P.S. the sound is full of chromers right now. Good Luck.-TBJ

Earthman, what's "insane" is someone who can't read spouting off...

There are snaggers on every river, and no one suggested closing all rivers where there are snaggers. This river is particularly nasty in every respect, and as I noted several times above, makes the usual $hithole snagfests look nice and tidy by comparison.

Be offended all you want...knock yourself out...learn to read what I write before getting there, though, and take your "elitist" comments and shove 'em up your Skok fishin' ass.

Fish on...

Todd