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#377321 - 09/26/07 05:25 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? *** [Re: The Moderator]
Hatch Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 273
Loc: Poulsbo, Wa
I'd say it's a HOmaphroNOOK. I can't honestly say that I've ever seen a coho with any spots on the pectoral fins.
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#377334 - 09/26/07 06:00 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: ]
Rocket Red Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
I bet it was a spinner. Probably a blue fox. I tell ya' I got one almost exactly like it yesterday on a #4 vibrax with a rusty hook and a chunk of orange tape on the blade with all the other colors worn off. I told him "Go tell your daddy I'm here". KING JACK, the silver jacks look completely different there this time of year. They are skinnier, they are two-tone, and they don't look like that fish.
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#377335 - 09/26/07 06:03 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: ]
Batson Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 173
Loc: Sequim
This may sound Stupid but when in doubt Just smell it if it smells like a King and looks like a king then it is a King no Doubt about it King Slime smells ten times more fishy than a, Silver try it!
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#377336 - 09/26/07 06:06 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Batson]
B-RUN STEELY Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 3233
Loc: IDAHO
" But officer.. I personally smelt this fish and I can say for certain....".
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#377337 - 09/26/07 06:08 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Batson]
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Registered: 01/08/07
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Loc: Bainbridge Island
I wish Smalma or Salmo G would chime in I am interested to find out as there are sure alot of know it alls responding. I have always wondered what these fish with the characteristics of both sub species of salmon are.-TBJ
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#377339 - 09/26/07 06:13 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: TBJ]
Neal M Offline
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Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 2742
Loc: Bainbridge Island and Sappho, ...
I'm sticking with Chinook. The back color and spots make me lean that way. It's not an easy one for sure.... How did it taste?

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#377344 - 09/26/07 06:22 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 2268
Loc: Poulsbo
[quote=fishNphysician I can be pretty opinionated when I KNOW I'm right. [/quote]

Something I hadn't noticed before
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#377351 - 09/26/07 06:43 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: TBJ]
MOSSYBACK Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 277
Loc: Bonney Lake
I'm going out on a limb.... Atlantic Salmon

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#377366 - 09/26/07 07:39 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Kid Sauk]
Fish Killer Offline
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Registered: 08/23/07
Posts: 45
Loc: gig harbor WA
tyee


Edited by Fish Killer (09/26/07 07:39 PM)
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#377367 - 09/26/07 07:42 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: TBJ]
Jason Y Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 1309
Loc: Poulsbo
It ain't no coho
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#377375 - 09/26/07 08:16 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Jason Y]
4Salt Offline
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
Anybody see the pic in the latest STS for the article about the 3 different versions of events surrounding the catching of that big king near the Tr-Cities? Look at that close-up of the fish's head. The gums are white and it has the classic coho "hook-nose"... yet it's a high 30's upriver bright CHINOOK.

Just goes to show ya...
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#377376 - 09/26/07 08:17 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Kid Sauk]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13447
I ain't no know it all. I need to see more of the fish. FNP takes fine photos, but that one doesn't yield enough for me to make a well informed ID.

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#377384 - 09/26/07 08:38 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Salmo g.]
Eric Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3426
Well.....going on what I remember from fisheries biology 101 in college and the thousands of hours over my life spent around these fish I voted nook' . Unless it's a hybrid(rare but it happens) there is only 1 species with larger, oval, non-round spots on the back and that is a chinook.

I don't buy the white gumline argument on this fish that would make it a coho. Many times smaller jacks have incomplete or inconsistent color on the gumline....especially nook' jacks.

As others said, a tail shot would be more conclusive.

That's my story and I'm stick'in to it! \:\)

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#377394 - 09/26/07 09:01 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Eric]
stlhdr1 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
110% coho jack....

Keith
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#377397 - 09/26/07 09:13 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: eyeFISH]
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Spots and green back color scream nookie to me.
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#377399 - 09/26/07 09:55 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Sky-Guy]
Jaydee Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 968
Loc: Paradise City!
Chinook... Get a shot of the tail?


Edited by Jaydee (09/26/07 09:56 PM)
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#377400 - 09/26/07 10:03 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Jaydee]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I'll bet he did, but he's holding out on us!

Fish on...

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#377402 - 09/26/07 10:08 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 968
Loc: Paradise City!
I was just trolling for a yes or no T-rip!
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#377406 - 09/26/07 10:33 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Jaydee]
Smalma Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 2834
Loc: Marysville
like everyone else would like to see more! Much easier to ID with the fish in hand and a single photo can be ambiguous

Purposely waited until now to express my opinion to give others a chance to give their thoughts

However from I can see it is my opinion that it is not a Chinook. Color of gum/tongue aside if you held the jaw of a Chinook as shown in the photo I would expect to see some blood (and not the fish's).

Not all that uncommon to see spotted river coho like that and if I had to pick between coho and Chinook I would have to say coho. The beginning of a "button" on the snout and body color look like a maturing coho.

However there remains some doubt in the back of my mind that the fish might be a pink. The thumb is hiding how "pointy" the lower jaw might be and the teeth look small in the photo - a clearer view of the jaw and/or the tail would help answer the question.

FNP - A fun post and shows how easy it is to confuse all us so-called experts. Seems like there always are some fish around to challenge us.

Tight lines
Curt

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#377410 - 09/26/07 11:00 PM Re: Jack Salmon... coho or chinook? [Re: Smalma]
jandlfishingguide Offline
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Registered: 07/04/06
Posts: 1191
Coho Jack for sure. I caught lots of Silvers at Buoy Ten this year that had those big spots on their backs to make them look like Chinook but the white gum line gives it away.

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