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#384977 - 10/29/07 10:15 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I'm not sure why people are still wondering, but to make it clear, again...the fish is not a Halloween trick, or an April Fool's joke six months early...it really did have one egg skein and one milt sac.

Fish on...

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#384993 - 10/29/07 10:54 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: Todd]
donno Offline
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 518
Loc: baker prairie
I don't think it matters that it was a hatchery fish. Genetic imperfections/mutations are going to happen in all species.
A once in a lifetime catch Todd, pretty cool.

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#384996 - 10/29/07 11:02 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: Todd]
eyeFISH Offline
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Did you get a full body shot or a good head shot?

Would be interesting to see what the fish looked like on the outside. I would have bet it looked like a hen.

Most critters are pre-programmed to be female on the outside by default. When that Y-chromosome kicks in during sexual development in the embyonic stage, the critter eventually takes on male characteristics. A developmental failure at that point would render a genetically male critter to become female. The biologic explanation for the disparity between external features and gonads is either deficient testosterone production or relative testosterone resistance at the tissue level.

This happens in humans as well... a condition called testicular feminization. Kid grows up totally female, and when they become teens, they look quite girly.... all female parts on the outside... just kinda small in the boobs hips and butts department. First clue that there is a problem is they NEVER get a period. Usually a very devastating revelation for all the family.
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#384999 - 10/29/07 11:11 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: Todd]
GBL Offline
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Registered: 01/31/05
Posts: 1862
Loc: Yakutat
Very efficient fish, can do both tasks without a mate!
Got to be something good about that.

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#385004 - 10/29/07 11:27 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: GBL]
Jason Y Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
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Loc: Poulsbo
Todd,

Thanks, for getting that morphidate out of the gene pool.


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#385007 - 10/29/07 11:30 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: Jason Y]
Todd Offline
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It probably looked more like a hen than a buck, but it mostly just looked like a small steelhead...there was a little lighthearted contention about whether or not it was a buck or a hen, I wish I would have cleaned it right there on the riverbank while there were others around to see it, too.

Jason, no problem with the removal...hatchery fish, when open...bonk!

Jimmy sent me a nice little care package of worms today...very nice!

Fish on...

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#385010 - 10/29/07 11:37 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: Todd]
Jason Y Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
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Loc: Poulsbo
 Originally Posted By: Todd


Jimmy sent me a nice little care package of worms today...very nice!

Fish on...

Todd


I got a box today myself, I am looking for a Mad River Worm hat. I need to talk him into making some, plenty of Fish Pills swag, time for some worm swag.

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#385017 - 10/29/07 11:49 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Jason, my care package came with an Action Tail hoody, too...it's white, so it will look kick ass with fish blood all over it!

Fish on...

Todd
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#385019 - 10/30/07 12:19 AM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: ]
donno Offline
The Cool kid

Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 518
Loc: baker prairie
blue water I do know in humans that is the case. We all start as female as said. If this is the case in other specie I don't know but would guess its the same.

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#385038 - 10/30/07 02:47 AM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: ]
cupo Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1041
Loc: north sound
 Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Doc,
Am I reading this right? We all start out female then some develope further into males, a little extra kick. Huh? Is this true or am I reading it wrong? I remember something about this in biology class but not sure it seems quite right.


That's why you have nipples homie.

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#385044 - 10/30/07 06:49 AM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: cupo]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
I kinda like the "further evolve" aspect of becoming male.
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#385121 - 10/30/07 03:03 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dave D Offline
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Registered: 10/04/01
Posts: 3563
Loc: Gold Bar
I'm with you Slab
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#385394 - 10/31/07 12:12 PM Re: Hatcheria Bananas must be bonked! [Re: ]
DiverX Offline
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Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 428
Loc: Renton
Todd, a memorable catch. Definitely not your common, every-day fish.

I don't think this is very strange. I would wager that fish had neither viable eggs nor viable milt. Most hermaphrodites cannot reproduce from what I have read. Ever typed "doe with antlers" into Google? Click Here
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