I wonder if any A.C.L.U., America’s Criminal Lobby Union, Lawyers ever peruse this site. I’d kind of like to know how they contemplate the defense of these poor misunderstood tweakers.

misunderstood tweakers have a medical problem. just like smokers and boozers. drugs addicts even can get some of our soical security money that we have been saving.

Heres another one, take a bottle of Jack Daniels coat the outside of it with DMSO and Antabuse. Leave in plain site for Tweaker to take along with a 5 dollar bill coated in Dmso and exlax. He can puke and sh@#$ at the same time.

Here's a good one. Leave a cheap sub-standard 9mm handgun laying visible in your vehicle, but load it with +P rounds. The thief steals it, takes it home and fires off a round.......BANGGGGGG......there goes his hand and part of his face if you're lucky.

Engineering failures are a goldmine in ideas.

Better yet put a big blob of solder in the barrel.

Here we go guys---Just need to hook this baby up to your car alaarm so it will work while you're away.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/


Check out the quicktime link on the right!

I like it!! That'll smoke thier crack good!

That's some funny stuff

Hey folks, I've got the sure fire tweeker repellent for my pick up. I installed a Magneto from a Cessna 152 onto my firewall. hooked it up to the battery a run two magnetic alarm plates to each door (the kind you find in Brink's home alarm systems, on your windows) I put them on my door jams. So if they break my window and open either door they get hit with 10,000 volts. The idea behind a magneto is simple. It is basically an electrical generator that has been tuned to create a periodic high-voltage pulse rather than continuous current. An electrical generator (or a magneto) is the reverse of an electromagnet In an electromagnet there is a coil of wire around an iron bar (the armature). When you apply current to the electromagnet's coil (e.g., with a battery), the coil creates a magnetic field in the armature. In a generator, you reverse the process. You move a magnet past the armature to create electric current in the coil. the good thing is it only has 2 AMPS.

The bad news is when my Tweeker neighbor broke into my truck and it put him on his ass he called the local sherifs and they almost took my butt to the Thurston Co. jail. They arrested him instead but told me I had to dismantle it because it might be lethal to anyone breaking in to my truck.

Does that piss anyone off as much as it does me? This country makes me sick.

How about we send all these convicted low lifes to Bagdad as IED detectors?

Or else six years in Pullman.

time to install two magnetos,

Put me in a tree stand with my bow staking out the place where they are breaking in. Then when suspected people shoe up I will rubber dub them till they cry for help. I bet this would make them think twice about it.

In the spirit of halloween: Poison Candy. Let them eat it and die elsewhere.

In the spirit of halloween of course.....he he

Be kind of fun to come running out of the brush with the Hannible mask and a running chainsaw just to see them Sh%$ themselves. That would become part of tweaker lore foreever...

Tweakers are easy to F#ck with because they are quite paranoid...Why do you think they like to do it doggy style? so they can both watch for the cops.

Well... how about this solution. Someone organize a group of anglers on this Forum and take turns patroling and watching the primary launch areas. Obviously the police can't be everywhere all the time. Maybe it's time for the anglers to take turns and take the initiative. Kind of like a "block watch" program for river launch areas. It's fun to day dream about ways of getting back but how about ways of preventing the problem? Are there enough of us concerned to take some positive action? Would you be willing to donate half a day to sitting around at Ben Howard to protect your fellow angler's rigs?

I spent the entire day in the back of my truck at Camp Bethel on Kirkpatrick Road (same place the smash and grab happened) the day before the break in. People were walking around on occation. Some walked down to look at the river and left. For all I know one or more of them could have been casing the cars parked there for valuables. Problem with your solution is these acts are random and happen quickly. Are you prepared for a confrontation? What if they are armed? If you simply call the cops as an eye witness to a break-in with a licence plate number of a fleeing vehicle what good is going to come from that? You might get someone's stuff back, but their rig will still be destroyed and the courts and jails are already full of these scumbags because the system seemingly favors crime. In the end you will have accomplished nothing form a deterrant standpoint.

To answer your question, NO. If I caught some POS breaking into a rig I would be unable to act in a law abiding fashion, so I would not choose put myself in that position on a regular basis. Give me a gun and a get-out-of-jail free card and I'll change my mind.

I disagree with a couple of your points. First, of course these acts are random. That goes without saying. But the fact is these are crimes of opportunity. Thief comes to the boat launch, see no one around, and smashes and grabs. If they come to the boat launch and there is someone in the parking lot, the odds are pretty good they go drive off to the next area of opportunity. So that is obviously a deterrent. Let's take your next point - fear of confrontation. OK, if you go fishing by yourself (and most of us do at times). You always run the risk of being confronted by a thief. So does that stop you from going fishing? Doesn't stop me. Life is full of risk. Again, these are thieves looking for an easy score. If you are sitting in a car you may become the target, just as you may become the target while you're fishing. So if the risk is too great you do it with a friend, or, decline to do it at all. Fair enough, I wouldn't think any the less of someone who felt sitting there was too much risk. How about your next point - you are at the launch, see the break in and get the information. Now you contact the police and let them take it from there. You say that what is the use, the criminals will go free, the vehicle will still be damaged, and in the end nothing will change. I'm sorry, but to me that is a defeatist attitude that I have no interest in buying into. I believe we all can make a difference in this world and I believe if we give up then we have essentially said "go ahead and do what you will as I have no power". Again, I refuse to buy into that attitude. Look, there are thousands of members that log on to this web site. If someone was to organize watch groups it couldn't help but make things more secure. Note, I didn't say totally secure. This kind of crime is always going to happen. This thread is entertaining but again I just put out to everyone that maybe fishermen as a group have a little more power than they think. It works for neighborhood watch groups. Are you telling me that people that get involved in neighborhood watch groups are accomplishing nothing and in the end nothing changes? Finally, you say if you caught someone breaking into a rig you would not be able to act in a law-abiding fashion, so you would not chose to put yourself in that position on a regular basis. So if you did catch someone breaking into a rig just what kind of fashion would you respond with? Just wondering. And to be fair, I’ll answer my own question. Property is not worth killing or being killed, injuring or being injured. Property is just stuff and it can be replaced. I would make sure I was safe to return home to my loved ones, and gather what information I could to report the crime to the police. That’s it.

Wouldn't it be an even greater deterrent if the "patrol" were all wearing cool Mexican wrestling masks?