#396152 - 12/13/07 05:14 PM
mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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Here is a link to the complete Mitchell report. This reports alot of names of players who took roids or hgh during thier career. MITCHELL REPORT LINK Here is a list of some notbale players: Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Andy Pettitte Jason Giambi Gary Sheffield Miguel Tejada there are many many other names...some pretty suprising some you already know i'm really pissed about Gary Matthews Jr. because he has been a Mariner's killer the last couple years...ridiculous
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#396168 - 12/13/07 05:48 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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They were just talking on KJR regarding the 2001 Mariners. They of course lost the ALCS to the Yankee's after their record breaking regular season. Andy Pettite won two games as the MVP of that series and Clemens started another game the Yaks won. They failed to mention though that they were throwing against guys like Popeye Bret Boone. You've got to love a good conspiracy theory.
I think there are a lot more guys then just the 80 or so that they named. Some were just smarter then the others, like playing cash rather then writing checks for their roids.
You have to wonder if Clemen's throwing the bat a Mike Piazza was a case of roid rage?
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#396178 - 12/13/07 06:04 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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clemens was always a hero for me. kind of a let down
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#396191 - 12/13/07 06:53 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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Spawner
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So was Barry. The reason is because of how big he has been for the past few years, basically up until last year. Then this year his uniform was a little bigger than normal, and he missed some time due to injury. It’s just an opinion though. Manny Stats A little spike in HR’s from 1998 to 2005. Coincidence? Maybe, but I think not. Again, merely my opinion. Also, would anyone think that Bonds' stats were odd just by looking at them, except for his 73 HR year?? Bonds Stats
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#396229 - 12/13/07 08:02 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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Hippie
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Bonds was just putting himself on a fair playing field.
... Amazingly, Mitchell failed to add Manny to his list. I don't buy the "level playing field" because you are putting his stats against other greats of the game. It might be a "level playing field" for the era (I don't even buy that) but his stats shouldn't be able to be compared to people like Hank Aaron. And just because Manny (or anyone else) isn't on the list doesn't mean there is some conspiracy. Maybe he was just smarter about how he did it? They clearly aren't going to catch everyone. Some of these were easy finds though and were based on canceled checks or first hand info from other players or trainers. The other thing that seems strange to me is that people are already saying things like, "Yeah, that was steroid era in the late 90's", as if none of this continued up to the most recent seasons? And shame on the league for trying to punish Giambi a while back when he was trying to be open about what had happened. All that did was make everyone shut up and continue denying everything.
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#396276 - 12/13/07 10:49 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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River Nutrients
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List of Players Named in Mitchell Report AP Posted: 2007-12-13 16:42:17 Here's a list of most of the names Major League Baseball players listed in the Mitchell Report.
The following players were connected to steroids, either use or possession, in the report:
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Andy Pettitte
Roger Clemens
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Exavier "Nook" Logan
Howie Clark
Paxton Crawford
Ken Caminiti
Rafael Palmeiro
Luis Perez
Derrick Turnbow
Ricky Bones
Ricky Stone
The following players were cited under "Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball."
Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Darren Holmes
Gary Matthews Jr.
John Rocker
Scott Schoeneweis
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard
The following players were linked through BALCO:
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Bobby Estalella
Barry Bonds
Marvin Benard
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#396302 - 12/14/07 12:09 AM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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River Nutrients
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I didn't see Bret Boone listed in any of the reports. Jose named him in his book.
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#396457 - 12/14/07 01:11 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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River Nutrients
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FYI..Did you know that a side affects of taking steroids, is that is causes the Penis to shrink to the size of a cocktail peanut? OUCH!! This comment was made by Lyle Alzado's personal Physician.
Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/14/07 01:33 PM)
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#396489 - 12/14/07 02:16 PM
Re: mitchell report....mlb steroid era
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River Nutrients
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Basketball players don't need bulk, because basketball is more like a ballet and requires fine motor skills. Steroids would render basketball players rigid and mechanical, like Robots. Besides, Basketball player love having sex with all the groupies.
Now when you mention... crack, guns and gangs, that's another thing. Seems to be the same for football as well, but with football, you can add one more...the addiction for watching mutts fights, as Michael Vicks was.
Edited by John Lee Hookum (12/14/07 02:17 PM)
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