#399114 - 12/24/07 02:37 PM
Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
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Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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7th day on the wagon, and it's all mental from here.
Here's What I'm going to miss most about my dear old friend Mr. Grizzly. LOADING up, prior to wading out into a run.
Mf
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#399132 - 12/24/07 03:50 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Magicfly]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 808
Loc: Backwoods of Kentucky
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All the employees where I work were sent an email notice this last week stating that beginning June of 2008 the company property will be 100% tobacco free. No smoking, no chewing. Nothing. Ouch. There's going to be a lot of grumpy people there when that happens. Typically your too far from the property boundaries to leave for a smoke. You'll just have to wait til you leave at the end of the day. Or on your lunch break if your so inclined to go to that much trouble for a smoke.
Good luck quitting....I'm next.....
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#399139 - 12/24/07 04:15 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Rafterman]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
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Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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Thanks Rafterman, but I'm not quitting. This is my 4th time abstaining from tobacca in 20 years. My longest is 7 years. I kind of like the withdrawals from abstaining cold turkey. Anyway just like an Alcoholic, one day at a time. Speaking of Alcohol, I can't believe I didn't pick up a freaking bottle for Christmas. Go figure.
Mf
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#399143 - 12/24/07 04:24 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Magicfly]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 808
Loc: Backwoods of Kentucky
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... Speaking of Alcohol, I can't believe I didn't pick up a freaking bottle for Christmas. Go figure.. Funny, I still have booze left over from last Christmas. A full 1/5 of Crown Royal and a full 1/5 of Captain Morgan. And at least a 1/2 full half gallon of Absolute vodka. Want a shot?
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#399151 - 12/24/07 04:48 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Rafterman]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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... Speaking of Alcohol, I can't believe I didn't pick up a freaking bottle for Christmas. Go figure.. Funny, I still have booze left over from last Christmas. A full 1/5 of Crown Royal Want a shot? Do I want a shot of Crown Royal? LMFAO, Hell I just opened my old can of chew and took three big sniffs to get my mind off your offer! Now I'm drinking wine from what's left over from smoking. Do I want a shot? The Magicfly has a weak spot for CR. MF
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#400088 - 12/28/07 02:01 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Magicfly]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Going to get back on the wagon on New years. I got my nicotine pateches (Thanks to my Girlfriend) ready. Shes leaving town and my kids will be at their moms..otherwise, someones life may be in jeapordy Going to miss that first dip of Cope in the morning.
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#400256 - 12/28/07 11:04 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Satan]
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Captain C/22 - Team Stay Up Right!
Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4194
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
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2 years 3 months & 20 days off the booze. Not that i'm counting.
Never did smoke, hear its way harder to quit than alcohol...
My hats off to you quitters!!
C/22
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#400258 - 12/28/07 11:28 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: chrome/22]
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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I quit drinking over 12 years ago. It's hard. Cigs were a cinch. I really wanted to quit so it was pretty easy. Good on you.
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#400262 - 12/29/07 12:28 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: seastrike]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 2527
Loc: WA
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Good for all you who have dropped your tobacco/drinking habits and gone sober. More power to you...
My grandpa quit the cigs cold turkey when his wife for over 30 years died of lung cancer.. (they smoked for as long as they were together)
Good luck to all you...
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#400271 - 12/29/07 12:52 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Knucklebustersonly]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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I quit chewing for about 3 years. Not sure why I started back up again. Oh yeah......... Stress...Yeh..... that's it.
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#400353 - 12/29/07 02:13 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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Anyone trying to quit should consider using Chantix...it's spendy, but worth a try. I prefer the cheap cold turkey method, gives me more booze money. My Yeng & my yang. Mf
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#400416 - 12/29/07 08:32 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Salmo g.]
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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AA,
I've read a couple of times now that for many, it's easier to quit heroin than it is to quit tobacco. That gives some perspective to the difficulty people have giving up cigarettes.
Sg Heroin withdrawal and frankly,alcohol DT's can kill a person. Quitting cigarettes will not. Getting off narcotics is much more difficult. I did it cold turkey. It's not that hard,and I smoked for years. Just do it and quit destroying yourselves. No excuses. Because to say that it's hard is a cop out. How hard will it be for your loved ones to watch you die from the abuse you are inflicting on your body? I don't but it. And I was a hard running mo fo in my earlier days. ANYONE can make life changes,but you have to be ready to take some actions to the contrary.
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#400430 - 12/29/07 09:02 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Satan]
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Parr
Registered: 07/22/06
Posts: 53
Loc: Seattle
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Try an extended period of incarceration for your addiction blues. Cured me off MethAmp and smoking. Started smoking the day I got released but haven't touched the sshprack in over 8 years. Took 3 months inside to get that wicked [censored] out of my system and finally think straight but once clarity came back it all made sense. [censored] cops and [censored] the prisons. To avoid both it takes sobriety. I still drink a lot of beer but have no desire to indulge that other side of life. Good luck MF on your fight with nicotine.
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#400443 - 12/29/07 10:13 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Satan]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6210
Loc: zipper
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BTW I did not mean to make light of addiction. It's not a joke. I laugh because I am lucky I lived through that [censored]. But it is no laughing matter. My thoughts exactly...
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#400639 - 12/31/07 03:51 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: fish4brains]
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Fish Fear Me
Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 3275
Loc: Port Angeles
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The best way to quit something, is TRULY convince yourself that you HATE it with a passion... Dwell on the negative side of things... Up North this summer I took my last pack of cigarettes and literally just about chain smoked them one night... woke up with a bad sore throat and stumbled around looking for the cat that shi.t in my mouth overnight... I haven't had even the slightest bit of desire since... I won't lie, I have a chew now and then just more or less for something to do, but you won't be able to quit if you actually miss it and enjoy it...Just food for thought!
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#400813 - 12/31/07 10:16 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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I love me
Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
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Avid, My friend a totally straight non-drug, no problem person took up meth in his 30's to the suprise of everyone. He is now doing 10 years in prison. Might get out early but since he has been given 3 chances (out on treatment) & not gone straight, he will probably do the the full 10. Such a nice guy, with a nice family, awful for all involved. It has ruined more than just his life. He became a different person, people would ask me why I cared about that looser, but I remember how he used to be, one of the best people I knew, but not anymore. Breaking an addiction is hard people who do provide a hopeful example for the others. I told him if others can do it (quit), so can you, you just took the wrong road, now get on the right one, but he didn't hear me.
Best thing is refuse to start, refuse to become addicted, and if you are break it as soon as possible, nothing should have that kind of control over a person.
I know someone who quit nicotine by putting $5.00 in a large clear jar everyday. Just looking at the $ made them not want to smoke, at the 1 year anniversary they went to Hawaii, with extra $$$ to spend.
That's sad man. What the system fails to realize is that these people have a disease and need help. I've seen a lot of good people lose everything and have seen people with nothing get everything back and thn some. There's always hope.
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#400874 - 01/01/08 12:09 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Satan]
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Carcass
Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 2199
Loc: Bainbridge Island
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I have a love it and leave it relationship with the chew. I can go to work for 40 or more days on the tugs and not even have a chew or really even miss it but, as soon as I get on the river or get a rod in my hand I love to have that pinch or big ol' burl between the lower lip and gums. There are some products out of Sweden right now that are being touted as cancer free. They are basically small pouches that are extremely strong and surprisingly flavorful and inexpensive. Just google Swedish snoos and check em' out yourselfs. Happy New Year Everyone! -TBJ
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#401115 - 01/02/08 12:47 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Back on the patch as of midnight December 31st. Wish me luck !!!
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#402329 - 01/07/08 01:19 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Irie]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Had poker night with the boys last night and I chipped a little. Hard to quit when drinking a few beers and others are chewing around you. But, I'm not discouraged. FYI a few beers, the patch and a chew does not make for a good time. Thought I was going to hurl. Oh yeah, took 3rd out of 18 guys
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#402382 - 01/07/08 01:22 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Sol]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
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I watched a good friend die of tongue cancer.
Honestly, if you are a smoker/chewer, and you get tongue cancer, just kill yourself the day you find out.
You are way better off that way. Honestly. I've witnessed Hell on Earth.
But hey, what do I know?
Enjoy that cig or chew.
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#402386 - 01/07/08 01:38 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Sol]
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
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True.
You're not going to live forever, but you can put the odds in your favor as to how, or how not, you are going to die.
There's no guarantee that you won't/can't get tongue cancer as a non-smoker or chewer. The odds state you will win the lottery first, though.
The odds go up if you chew, smoke, drink, don't exercise, partake in questionable lifestyles, etc.
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#402394 - 01/07/08 01:51 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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The Chosen One
Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13942
Loc: Tuleville
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Ditto.
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#402510 - 01/07/08 05:55 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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for those of you trying to quit, the recidivism rate for tobacco/nicotine is about 96% and about 95% for heroin. When science discovered how our nervous system works in conjunction with our muscles, they named the receptor sites "nicotinic receptors". That's why it's so damn hard to quit.
And now for soapbox time: the World Health Organization estimates that approximately 420,000 people die in the U.S. each year from American Tobacco products. They also put alcohol deaths at 110,000 a year which does not include traffic deaths. Take Sol's advice, hit the fish whistle.
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#406466 - 01/20/08 05:17 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: fishrmn]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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So back to the first post...are you still holding out, Magicfly?
I'm happy to report that this is day 8 with no Copenhagen. The challenging times are first thing in the morning or after a good meal. But the desire is starting to go away. It's hard to break a 20+ year habit, but in the end it will be worth it...
I appreciate the comments on this topic. It has certainly helped me so far. Thanks for the support. Like fishrmn, I to want to thank everyone for their support. But something happened yesterday, and I'm not sure if I'm still on the wagon. While I was making a drink I noticed my old can in the fridge. Well one thing lead to another, and before I knew what was going on I had my nose buried in that gosh darn can. I don't think any got in my mouth, but I can't be certain. Other than that I'm still hanging in there. Good luck everybody. By the way in the last 5 weeks I've gained 15 pds. Mf
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#406541 - 01/21/08 12:52 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: fishrmn]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Day 21 tomorrow for me as well. I too found it hard to get the first one in the morning out of my head. To be honest, I've chipped a few times, but the last time I quit, I did the same and was off it for 3 years or so, before I started back up. The extra cash is coming in handy too I had me a can a day problem going and usually paid 7-8 bucks a can. Do the math...... YIKES !!! Good job to those kicking the habit
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#406825 - 01/22/08 01:10 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Jaba'da butt]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 502
Loc: Whatcom
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Congrats on the sobriety Jaba. Nicotine & alcahol still cheaper than women I estimate my divorce has cost me over $350 K and still counting.
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#435848 - 05/23/08 11:51 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: t(s)inner]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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35pds +, and 5 months now without a chew. Started exercising today, if that don't do it I'm loading back up.
How's everyone else doing?
Mf
Edited by Magicfly (05/24/08 12:22 AM) Edit Reason: ?
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#436216 - 05/28/08 03:23 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Sol]
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Hottie to go
Registered: 02/28/08
Posts: 95
Loc: Silverdale
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A man without a chew can become crazy! Lol.....how does a woman keep him sane during this time?
Edited by East Coast Girl (05/28/08 03:30 PM)
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#436460 - 05/30/08 01:50 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
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A man without a chew can become crazy! Lol.....how does a woman keep him sane during this time? If you have to ask......... I'll ask. Are we talking a wife or a girl friend. Because.... Mf
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#745261 - 03/05/12 07:05 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: Makai]
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Shooting Instructor for hire
Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
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I'm an ex 2 pack a day WITH dip kind of guy and I quit. It's all mind over matter. The new nicorete lozenges worked great for the big urges.
Those and a crap ton of sunflower seeds and lollipops. But it is extremely hard to fish without a dip...sooooooo tough...but it does get better. Best of luck fighting the good fight...
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#745269 - 03/05/12 07:16 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: NickD90]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Last September I finished a pack of smokes...and never bought another one. Haven't had a puff, or a dip, or a plug since then. Having the lady in my avatar not being a smoker, and not liking being around a smoker, was, to say the least, a pretty good motivator Fish on... Todd
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#745272 - 03/05/12 07:21 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: NickD90]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
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I quit cigarettes last year using the three step patches and occassionally the gum. Fishing without is by far the hardest part.
The good: My lungs feel great and no coughing. The bad: Was like learning to breath all over again, tired all of the time, weight gain, time drags....all known side effects of withdrawal according to the Doc.
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#745322 - 03/05/12 10:42 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: stlhead]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 7960
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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I quit cigarettes last year using the three step patches and occassionally the gum. Fishing without is by far the hardest part.
The good: My lungs feel great and no coughing. The bad: Was like learning to breath all over again, tired all of the time, weight gain, time drags, fertility increases....all known side effects of withdrawal according to the Doc. Well, if you get pregnant, you'll just have to give up drinkin' for a few months. Don't know who'd want to phluck ya, though. Congrats on quitting.
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#745579 - 03/06/12 11:19 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: fish4brains]
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Parr
Registered: 01/27/12
Posts: 62
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BTW I did not mean to make light of addiction. It's not a joke. I laugh because I am lucky I lived through getting fcked by a bbc. My thoughts exactly... WTF
Edited by UW2 (03/06/12 11:30 PM)
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#745656 - 03/07/12 11:24 AM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
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17yrs of chew to smokes to chew again. Rinse and repeat. Picked it up as a young ball player and carried it through my college playing days.
I was whistling through about a can of GRIZZ a day until 10 weeks ago.
Quit cold turkey and haven't looked back.
I still jones for a snoose, or at least a drag off a cig,......but I think about it less and less.
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#745671 - 03/07/12 12:23 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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The Original Boat Ho
Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 2917
Loc: Bellevue
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2packs+ a day for 30 years. If you smoke you can not get a kidney transplant, so quit or die. I used bupuiron , gum , and what really helped the most was sucking/biting on a cherry pit.
Quit date 5/30/09
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#745684 - 03/07/12 12:56 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
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17yrs of chew to smokes to chew again. Rinse and repeat. Picked it up as a young ball player and carried it through my college playing days.
I was whistling through about a can of GRIZZ a day until 10 weeks ago.
Quit cold turkey and haven't looked back.
I still jones for a snoose, or at least a drag off a cig,......but I think about it less and less. GRIZZ would be reason enough to quit for me. I was going through almost 2 cans a day in Afghanistan and a fresh dip of Copenhagen was what I looked forward to through out the day. Those days when all I had was Grizz were some of my worst days.
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#745691 - 03/07/12 01:15 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: gvbest]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
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10+yrs on the Cope until it became somewhere near $7.00/can. It became hard to justify a $200/month chew habit. Switched to Grizz around 3-4yrs ago at about $3.25/can I think, wasn't all that bad. Glad I quit. The wife doesn't complain about finding spitters left in every nook and cranny anymore and that's a-ok by me. Not to mention I now have extra duckets to blow on fishing gear
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#745692 - 03/07/12 01:18 PM
Re: Nicotine withdraaaaawl's
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
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Yeah I had to buy a can of Cope out in town a couple of weeks and about crapped myself at the price, thank god Cope is only 3.25 on base.
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