#403015 - 01/08/08 06:14 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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All I know is it seems impossible to do worse than what we have now. BJ, shouldn't you be out protesting the Dixie Chicks or something?
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#403029 - 01/08/08 06:25 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/13/03
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We can always do worse. To me, Obama IS worse. He comes from the most corrupted political system in our country. Which system are you talking about? The US political system or just the democratic party?
Edited by wntrrn (01/08/08 06:31 PM)
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#403038 - 01/08/08 06:31 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 03/07/00
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To an ever-growing number of Democrats, Independents, minorities, women and especially young first-time voters... he isn't. "He comes from the most corrupted political system in our country." I didn't know Obama was actually a white Republican from a southern state?
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#403050 - 01/08/08 06:45 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 06/24/01
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I got this in an email.Maybe its all a lie though.
Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black Muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ). When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school. Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Ken ya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.
Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools.
Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world. Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim. SEND THIS TO YOUR E FRIENDS
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#403066 - 01/08/08 07:04 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
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A wise friend of mine recently said, "What's four years of getting kicked in the nuts after getting fuc%ed in the ass for eight?" Hit the nail on the head.....
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#403080 - 01/08/08 07:19 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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hntnfsh - It IS ALL a lie. A right-wing propaganda chain e-mail. http://www.snopes.com or http://www.factcheck.org if you don't believe me.
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#403102 - 01/08/08 07:42 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 2952
Loc: Olalla, WA
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KK, you of all people KNOW better. What happened to researching those you plan to support?
You're a dssappointment. KK's Favorite Fish: Trolling for Republicans on the 'Dark Side' I'd say he's over his limit today
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#403117 - 01/08/08 07:54 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/00
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Your profile has always cracked me up, bud, and I always think about it when I drift over here to see what the Think Tank members are up too
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#403145 - 01/08/08 08:43 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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You get my vote KK! A few more for your consideration: Rethink farm subsidies. Better CAFE standards NOW. High priority on alternative energy. Get the HELL outta NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO. HUGE painful fines for corporate polluters. Re-instate a sound environmental protection policy. Fix the insane trade imbalances. Rebuild America's manufacturing sector. That oughtta get you started anyway.
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#403160 - 01/08/08 09:42 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
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I hereby nominate blue_jay as FCC chair. He'll streamline the agency by doin' away with everything but FOX News, right-wing talk radio and the Weekly Standard! Conservatives won't have to whine about the 'liberal media' any more!
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#403168 - 01/08/08 10:06 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 1759
Loc: Forks, WA
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You guys need to do a MUCH better job nominating. Frankly, the record proves you SUCK at it.
Can't argue there... The last election would have been a gimme if we hadn't propped up Lurch and turned him loose to scare everyone and waffle flaccidly. This election should be an easy win too..... What I think is interesting is that the current political climate probably makes it possible for a woman to be elected president for the first time in history. If only she wasn't Hillary. Same goes with a minority, unfortunately the front runner in that category is woefully inexperienced politically. I personally could care less about the gender of race of our next president, I'd just really like it to be a decent human being. Couldn't the D's have found one of those, somewhere in this country?
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#403304 - 01/09/08 11:27 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 03/08/99
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My gut tells me it's going to be Hillary versus McCain and when the Rove style smear campaign dust settles McCain will win a close election.
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#403312 - 01/09/08 11:57 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 456
Loc: LOL
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I hereby nominate blue_jay as FCC chair. He'll streamline the agency by doin' away with everything but FOX News, right-wing talk radio and the Weekly Standard! Conservatives won't have to whine about the 'liberal media' any more! LOL I thought KK was going to give me a janitor spot so I can clean up after Larry Craig or somethin
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#403331 - 01/09/08 12:43 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 774
Loc: Everett, WA USA
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We have had white men for the past 230 years and a chimp could have done better than what we've had the last 7. The republican canidates may act like it would be more of the same but right now a few of them would say anything to get the nomination. Romney has flipped more than Kerry did during the entire last election and he hasn't won the nomination yet. Mcain had his mom out with him the other day to show that he too could live a few more years, she is in her 90's. Huckaby might get the conserative base but he won't be getting the independents and they will determine the election again in most areas. The democrats have spent the last 4 years strengthing their base and will get more voters to the polls then in years past. Edwards will be showing better in the next weeks as the primarys move to the south and Huckaby will also do better there. No dobut Romney has spent the most so far and will continue to spend as long as he thinks he has a chance. To date he has spent over $17 million of his own money. Remember his dad was govenor on Michigan from 63 to 69 and ran for the republican nomination but lost early and dropped out of the race. Mitt was with his dad on the campaign and learned a lot like how to switch sides to win. His father never switched his opinions and lost.
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#403395 - 01/09/08 03:16 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Yeah scary because a lot of people get killed or lose their savings.
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#403614 - 01/10/08 12:07 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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Secretary of State Vedder (we need somebody 'older and 'wiser' here. Dave's the oldest guy I know) Secretary of the Treasury Cory (I mean, why not ?) Secretary of Defense Rafterman (you see all those knives?) Attorney General Todd (they'll never get a word in edgewise) Secretary of the Interior stam (Olymic National Park now goes all the way to the Pacific Ocean along the Queets) Secretary of Agriculture DanS (I mean, dude....c'mon...) Secretary of Commerce sparky (nobody else wants this job) Secretary of Labor T-Bird (he needs a job with benefits) Secretary of Health and Human Services FNP (professional experience a plus, we call him 'doc') Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Bucket/Nofish (they can plan and buld things) Secretary of Transportation B-Run (High speed rail from Boise to Forks) Secretary of Energy VHawk (when testing is complete, we'll know what to use for energy...no question about that) Secretary of Education Aix sponsa (the obvious choice here.....) Secretary of Veterans Affairs AuntyM (who posts more about vets, or anything else for that matter) ?) Secretary of Homeland Security Big Daddy (I feel safer just knowing he's a mod.........) I accept the nomination. My first act as secretary of state Will be to teach all Arabs to fly fish. If they are so occupied I think they might keep out of trouble. I will then work with Sol on reciprocal trade agreements with Columbia and Mexico. They can send us their favorite crops and we will send them back their people. That will make more uptight republicans relax a bit. There you go problem solved.
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#403627 - 01/10/08 01:08 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 10/07/07
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will then work with Sol on reciprocal trade agreements with Columbia and Mexico. They can send us their favorite crops and we will send them back their people. That will make more uptight republicans relax a bit. There you go problem solved. except you need to hook up with canada instead of columbia and el hecho showing your age dave
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#403631 - 01/10/08 01:18 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Big_Daddy
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Okay ladies....line up.
As Secretary of Homeland Security, I am going to have to inspect those WMD's. "Women's Massive D" cups.
Avid.... your previous avatar is first on the list.
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#403632 - 01/10/08 01:18 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
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Ideally I kinda of like Ron Paul. I was listening to him on Jay Leno and the audience seemed to like his ideas. I kinda of agree with him on foreign policy, taxes, national debt, social security, personnel liberties, reduced taxes, reduced government. I'm independent and I consider myself a moderate but fiscally conservative. Maybe a little to the left of center on some social issues and environmental issues. I have some libertarian in me. I guess BJ would consider me a liberal environmental wacko.
I watched the debates Rep and Dem. If I had a choice for Rep. I think McCain is the lesser of the evils. I liked what Bill Richardson and John Edwards had to say. I'm not sure who is better between Clinton and Obama. I just don't want to see another 4 yrs of Bush's bad economic policies and corporate welfare if we elect a Republican.
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#403678 - 01/10/08 10:28 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 2544
Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
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[quote=Steelheadman]Ideally I kinda of like Ron Paul. I was listening to him on Jay Leno and the audience seemed to like his ideas. I kinda of agree with him on foreign policy, taxes, national debt, social security, personnel liberties, reduced taxes, reduced government. I'm independent and I consider myself a moderate but fiscally conservative. Maybe a little to the left of center on some social issues and environmental issues. I have some libertarian in me. I guess BJ would consider me a liberal environmental wacko.
I feel your pain Steelheadman. What I like about Ron Paul is that even if I don't agree with his position, at least he gives a straight answer. There is no slick politician speak. I also like that he is coming from a place of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for his actions. Can we get KK to press our politicians to perform just like us people out in the real world with real jobs? I would have been fired long ago if I performed like our legislators. I am also sick of our one party system, the government for sale that both parties are guilty of partaking. I'll get down off the soapbox now...
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#403707 - 01/10/08 12:15 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 10/09/07
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#403710 - 01/10/08 12:19 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
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Call me an ass, but the only way a woman or a black man could ever be elected president is to have them run against one anther. Good point. Obama's a closet crook, in bed with Big Money and Agro-Chemical. You don't just Cinderella-story like that out of nowhere in this country. Besides, Harpers ran a story on his ass back in Nov. '06. LINK Hillary's a snake. She's voted for all the GOP Legislation that's shafted ordinary America. The War, USAPatriot I&II, The Bankruptcy Bill, etc, etc. In my book that makes her an accomplice to the biggest crime in American history. I'm pulling for Edwards & Richardson, but the media won't let either get a word in edge-wise.
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#403731 - 01/10/08 01:16 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 1672
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I'm voting Dave Vedder for pres.
I like his stance on Immigration.
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#403819 - 01/10/08 04:57 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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#403866 - 01/10/08 07:10 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Party affiliation be damned.
My vote will go to Ron Paul. The rest of the candidates ain't worth the price of the powder to blow them to hell.
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#404121 - 01/11/08 04:00 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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MPD
Registered: 01/02/08
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Careful who you call "non-factor" people. In this month's issue of Mother Jones (I know, commie, clinton agenda rag, discredit it by yelling) Ron Paul has a large following from the tech sector and those people are behind his popularity on the net. If you're not careful B_J, one of those techies might cut off your "internets" as the prez calls it.
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#404141 - 01/11/08 04:50 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Careful who you call "non-factor" people. In this month's issue of Mother Jones (I know, commie, clinton agenda rag, discredit it by yelling) Ron Paul has a large following from the tech sector and those people are behind his popularity on the net. If you're not careful B_J, one of those techies might cut off your "internets" as the prez calls it. LOL
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#404231 - 01/11/08 11:14 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Parr
Registered: 01/11/08
Posts: 45
Loc: Holy waters fished
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Billary I heard grows a faster Beard, so it might be a close Shave
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#404382 - 01/12/08 07:05 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 05/03/01
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I'm leaving the country, just like Alec Baldwin did.
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#404721 - 01/14/08 02:06 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 12/19/03
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Party affiliation be damned.
My vote will go to Ron Paul. The rest of the candidates ain't worth the price of the powder to blow them to hell.
ISO Spoken like a true Christian.
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#404746 - 01/14/08 02:54 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Spawner
Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
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The way I see it is that we have a bunch of steaming bowls of Sh!t running for president. You just have to pick the one that stinks the least.
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#404798 - 01/14/08 05:58 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Registered: 10/04/01
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The way I see it is that we have a bunch of steaming bowls of Sh!t running for president. You just have to pick the one that stinks the least.
Bush was the freshest smelling turd in the lot, what happened
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#404817 - 01/14/08 06:28 PM
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It goes all the way back to Carter. He was too immoral.
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#404947 - 01/14/08 10:23 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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WINNER
Registered: 01/11/03
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I was going to totally stay out of this political goober, but my fingers are having an out-of-body experience and are banging on the keyboard without my consent. Ten frigging pages into this and I'm still chuckling at the KK for Pres idea. Shi@t, I think you got my vote too, KK. The "reinstate the draft" won me over. It's about time the freeloading whiners pay their due. Hard to make men out of nipple-hangers, tho. And Dave! Absolutely awesome immigrant concept!! I have to say that I'm surprised that with females holding all of our State's high posts, that there isn't a blow out "Hillary" support group staunchly proclaiming her assets. I was beginning to think that Tampax was a solid candidate to move their headquarters here and usurp Microsoft with a male version of their product....like perhaps a testicle purse. Conclusion.....not the first time the choices for Pres have sucked. IMO it doesn't speak very highly of the American people to keep holding up mediocre dipsticks and proclaim them to be leader. ugh.
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#404987 - 01/15/08 12:18 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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but my fingers are having an out-of-body experience and are banging on the keyboard without my consent. Too funny, SH.
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#405002 - 01/15/08 01:29 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Rico Suave
Registered: 11/06/05
Posts: 2567
Loc: Whidbey Island
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I'm leaving the country, just like Alec Baldwin did. funny.
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#405003 - 01/15/08 01:33 AM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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Rico Suave
Registered: 11/06/05
Posts: 2567
Loc: Whidbey Island
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Call me an ass, but the only way a woman or a black man could ever be elected president is to have them run against one anther. True that you racist fem hating chauvinist. Oh yeah, you are an ass, but remember that's why Cheryl's boy toy likes ya. Or thinks you're funny. Okay, we like ya too.
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#405157 - 01/15/08 03:31 PM
Re: What IF Obama gets it instead of your hero?
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I love me
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Loc: Around the way
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Call me an ass, but the only way a woman or a black man could ever be elected president is to have them run against one anther. Tr Quuen Latifah for president!
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