#408068 - 01/25/08 07:13 PM
Re: North American Union
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The Tide changed
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I really find it hard to beleive that a lame duck president is going to be able to push something like this through in the remaining 11 months of his presidency.
Andy, understand that the information being presented here is that Bush is only a single pawn in a long line of pawns that have each played a role to carry this proposed plan out. It's all backed by the elite society of the world who have long been in a position of power. Mexistan is a third world country with weaker borders than ours. Why would we want to link up to that, allowing terrorists even easier access to our country?
I'm not buying it. If the NAU comes into fruition, we will only need to guard Mexico's southern border with Belize and Guatemala, which is much smaller. Mexico, Canada, and the US would in essence become one state. Andy, I already addressed snopes #1 above, it's off the mark of the true issue.
Edited by Sky-Guy (01/25/08 07:23 PM)
Edit Reason: Made a mistake...
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#408077 - 01/25/08 08:09 PM
Re: North American Union
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Mexico does have a bit of a coastline.
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#408107 - 01/25/08 09:44 PM
Re: North American Union
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River Nutrients
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I just finished watching the movie and it did make some points. If you don't watch it, how in the hel! can you debate it's merits? Man some of you guy's should lighten up, and keep to the "Man I really got drunk Thread."  Ironic that the movie illustrated, just how easy it is to program individuals to cast a blind eye, as they welcome and defend their own enslavement. Sorta like this thread is going.  That's how Hitler got all those perfect little Nazi's to march in lock step. Each group now has their own little Nazi agenda. Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, Liberals, Christian, Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Whites, Mexicans, you name the group, they will talk and act like Nazi's if given the chance.  Hence WWIII? BTW, liberal Nazi's, with their hollier than thou attitudes, are just as nauseous, as Blue Jay is on this board.  Maybe not quit as much, but definitely close. 
Edited by John Lee Hookum (01/26/08 03:43 PM)
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#408118 - 01/25/08 10:11 PM
Re: North American Union
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Parker---I've been to Cabo 6 or 7 times in the last 20 years and I'm a sucker because I was given' those kids $5 for the flat of chicklets and not taking them (the chicklets not the kids) they didn't go good with bad tequila.
PS----Those Zobie killers are lookin' mean.
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#408137 - 01/25/08 11:47 PM
Re: North American Union
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Poodle Smolt
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So I need to watch F911, sicko, and other films to determine that Michale Moore is full of sh!t?
Okay, you sold me. Amero here we come!
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#408147 - 01/26/08 12:21 AM
Re: North American Union
[Re: chasbo]
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D.E.A
Registered: 04/02/06
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Sorry, dude... but not one of those links answers the challenge I gave you. Not one of those people was arrested for anything even vaguely concerning the issue at hand. If you sign the W4 with the IRS telling them you will pay based on ANY NUMBER of exemptions or by "itemizing" your return you have just created the law by which you will be judged. You just signed a contract. The people you posted links about were all arrested because in one way or another they were "in breach". Again: Find me the LAW that requires any United States Citizen to pay income tax. Ever heard of the Federal Reserve? If you think it's part of our government, you have some education ahead of you. How could a corporation make money loaning paper currency to our government? How could a corporation exist that doesn't profit?
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#408151 - 01/26/08 12:23 AM
Re: North American Union
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The federal reserve is the biggest Ripoff in the history of man.
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#408170 - 01/26/08 01:17 AM
Re: North American Union
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Spawner
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hobomb there is no reason for you to cop an attitude with me just because I stated "Try not paying your Income taxes and getting away with it. " I am sure that you "DO get away with it, as do tens of thousands of other people.." The IRS is a huge bureaucracy which is never going to catch all of the tax evaders. I am much older that you and this argument is not new. I agree that there is no specific law that I have ever seen which states that we must pay income tax. My brother cheated his whole life , didn't pay taxes, and filed bankruptcy every seven years. When he died he didn't have a pot to piss in. Had become a "sand pisser" (so to speak) the links I posted are ALL about fighting the Federal dept of Justice and the IRS. Here is another link: http://www.usdoj.gov/tax/injunctions.htm
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#408171 - 01/26/08 01:33 AM
Re: North American Union
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D.E.A
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No attitude here, dude. Sometimes that's hard to interpret from typed words.
The IRS is not interested in pursuing people who know that they do not have to pay taxes. This is because they have NEVER won any such case.
I don't wanna criticize your brother but I don't know what his story has to do with the subject of this thread.
The above link ALSO does not have anything to do with the subject of this thread. Direct quote from your link explaining what the subject of the link is:
"fraudulent tax return preparers and promoters of tax-fraud schemes"
The Federal Income Tax Amendment was never ratified, therefore there is no law. People pay voluntarily. If you fraudulently manipulate the amount that you previously, contractually, and voluntarily agreed to pay THEN and only then have you committed a crime.
It may seriously surprise you to learn what your taxes are used for...
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#408172 - 01/26/08 01:36 AM
Re: North American Union
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D.E.A
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When he died he didn't have a pot to piss in. I am certainly not trying to offend you, but the humor potential is tempting me. If I am dead, why would I need a pot to piss in? Sorry, just a joke. I couldn't resist.
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#408176 - 01/26/08 01:52 AM
Re: North American Union
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D.E.A
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Well now that sucks. Sorry to laugh at his expense.
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#408190 - 01/26/08 04:18 AM
Re: North American Union
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Parr
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The federal reserve is the biggest Ripoff in the history of man.
I believe that is why JFK was kissed from above. Another reason Ron Paul was immediately dismissed as a wacko.
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#408191 - 01/26/08 04:29 AM
Re: North American Union
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Skyguy, I do believe we are heading in that direction and a Police state is staring us in the face and yet the only ones that want to adress it are labeled Conspiracy Theorists. May the boots of the U.N. occupying forces tread the bones of the scoffers into dust to be used for new striping on the Trans Texas Hwy...WOLVEREEEEEEEEEENS!!!!!
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#408219 - 01/26/08 12:08 PM
Re: North American Union
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River Nutrients
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Ever heard of the Federal Reserve? If you think it's part of our government, you have some education ahead of you. How could a corporation make money loaning paper currency to our government? How could a corporation exist that doesn't profit? Thanks for pointing that out hohbomb. From the way some are representing themselves in this thread, one would assume that many have bought into the idea that the Federal Reserve works on behalf of the American citizen. NOT!!! When they use the word Federal, as it relates to the Reserve, or it's Chairman, they are houdwinking and bamboozzolling you. It is not a part of the Government. The government has to pay them (private money handlers) or they will shut us down. Our political leaders and all branches of government, do as they are told by this group. If not, they will never get their names on a ballot. I expect to have someone chime in with "Conspiracy Theory," blah,- blah,- blah. Assuming they have their facts, when they don't bother to research for themselves. Main stream Media is not allowed to tell you this stuff. They ( Money handlers) own the main stream media.
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#408221 - 01/26/08 12:19 PM
Re: North American Union
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Spawner
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Ever heard of the Federal Reserve? If you think it's part of our government, you have some education ahead of you. How could a corporation make money loaning paper currency to our government? How could a corporation exist that doesn't profit? Thanks for pointing that out hohbomb. From the way some are representing themselves in this thread, one would assume that many have bought into the idea that the Federal Reserve works on behalf of the American citizen. NOT!!! When they use the word Federal, as it relates to the Reserve, or it's Chairman, they are houdwinking and bamboozzolling you. It is not a part of the Government. The government has to pay them (private money handlers) or they will shut us down. Our political leaders and all branches of government, do as they are told by this group. If not, they will never get their names on a ballot. These are the only two references in this thread that mention the Federal Reserve?
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#408225 - 01/26/08 12:42 PM
Re: North American Union
[Re: chasbo]
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River Nutrients
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OK listen up! The entire Income Tax is illegal thing was a SCAM. It was perpetuated by a CON ARTIST who preyed on ignorant antigovernment hillbillies at Gunshows, Militia Meetings, and Libertaian Convetions. He sold Information Packets for $50 each with copies of fake "forms" that supposedly opted you out being a Tax Paying Citizen. Stupid hicks fell for it and the guy went to PRISON, just like you will if you stop contributing your share as a citizen. HERE IT IS IN BLACK & WHITE (with nice little red borders) The Constitutional Authority: Authority to Levy Income Tax:
"Amendment XVI: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." The Legal Authority: You're in there somewhere. As well as what they're allowed to do to you if you act like a Piker and don't pay up. 26 USC Chap. 75, Sec. 7203. Willful failure to file return, supply information, or
pay tax
-STATUTE-
Any person required under this title to pay any estimated tax or
tax, or required by this title or by regulations made under
authority thereof to make a return, keep any records, or supply any
information, who willfully fails to pay such estimated tax or tax,
make such return, keep such records, or supply such information, at
the time or times required by law or regulations, shall, in
addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a
misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more
than $25,000 ($100,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned
not more than 1 year, or both, together with the costs of
prosecution. In the case of any person with respect to whom there
is a failure to pay any estimated tax, this section shall not apply
to such person with respect to such failure if there is no addition
to tax under section 6654 or 6655 with respect to such failure. In
the case of a willful violation of any provision of section 6050I,
the first sentence of this section shall be applied by substituting
"felony" for "misdemeanor" and "5 years" for "1 year". There it is folks. Now stop listening to Urban Legend Bullsh*t spewed by guys wearing Chewstained Camo.
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#408250 - 01/26/08 03:05 PM
Re: North American Union
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For someone who claims to defend our freedoms, you should learn your history better...
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#408253 - 01/26/08 03:07 PM
Re: North American Union
[Re: chasbo]
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D.E.A
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Ever heard of the Federal Reserve? If you think it's part of our government, you have some education ahead of you. How could a corporation make money loaning paper currency to our government? How could a corporation exist that doesn't profit? Thanks for pointing that out hohbomb. From the way some are representing themselves in this thread, one would assume that many have bought into the idea that the Federal Reserve works on behalf of the American citizen. NOT!!! When they use the word Federal, as it relates to the Reserve, or it's Chairman, they are houdwinking and bamboozzolling you. It is not a part of the Government. The government has to pay them (private money handlers) or they will shut us down. Our political leaders and all branches of government, do as they are told by this group. If not, they will never get their names on a ballot. These are the only two references in this thread that mention the Federal Reserve? Try asking the creater of this thread if it has to do with the Federal Reserve Bank...
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