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#417380 - 02/25/08 06:32 PM Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections
Jaba'da butt Offline
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Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 736
Loc: Kelso, wa.
Just saw a Newsweek update on the web and said Hillary should avoid ridicule and bow out of the race. Insiders must know something's up in the Democratic camp! Maybe Texas and Ohio is going to be a clean sweep for Obama.

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#417393 - 02/25/08 07:07 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Jaba'da butt Offline
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Registered: 08/16/06
Posts: 736
Loc: Kelso, wa.
It sure looks like they are losing!

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#417417 - 02/25/08 08:22 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/01/03
Posts: 263
Loc: WA
Her in office just makes me cringe. Have you seen some of the comments she made over the weekend?
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#417435 - 02/25/08 09:03 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: fishdontbiteforme]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
The sad thing is that none of the remaining candidates makes me cringe as much as seeing our current "President" on TV every day...man, this is going to be one loooonnnggg last year of his regime.

Fish on...

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#417470 - 02/25/08 11:29 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
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WOW.......................

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#417485 - 02/25/08 11:44 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
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Registered: 08/23/06
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#417503 - 02/26/08 12:03 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: fish4brains]
Irie Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Hillary starts losin the second she opens her trap and starts bad mouthing he opponent and talking to voters like they are 2nd Graders from the special ed class.

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#417509 - 02/26/08 12:14 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: Irie]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
I thought life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was a pretty good deal, never thought they'd pay my bills for me too...

No thanks, just let me earn my own keep.

Can someone please point out a Country with a better system, and tell me how many American citizens are sneeking into that Country to better provide for their families ?

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#417553 - 02/26/08 01:23 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Knucklebustersonly Offline
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Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 2527
Loc: WA
 Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Oh Oregonian do NOT even go there – I guarantee you I have more patriotism in my little toe than you do in your entire body.


Can you prove it????

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#417555 - 02/26/08 01:33 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Q: What did people ever do without bazillionaire doctors and lawyers ?

A: Live until their death without paying/whining about the above.




Edited by Oregonian (02/26/08 01:36 AM)

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#417557 - 02/26/08 01:37 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
What's the downside ?

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#417560 - 02/26/08 01:41 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: Knucklebustersonly]
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Registered: 10/23/00
Posts: 386
Loc: Auburn
That free health care only applies if you have jumped the fence Boeing built.
Really BWP the Hillary health care train got derailed in Seattle. Remember
liberal Seattle told her to pound sand in 1993. Queen Christine did more to screw up insurance in Washington than anyone else.
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#417562 - 02/26/08 01:44 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
 Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Yes by the fact that I care about my country & fellow Americans. I care whether Americans live or die not whether insurance CEOs make multi-million dollar profits. Americans should care about eachother & the welfare of our country. Healthcare is a right - it is a human right. If you want your fellow Americans to die because they are not rich enough to be self insured or because the insurance company will not pay even though they have been paid - well then- that is not American in my mind.



What did the Founding Fathers say about "Healthcare", surely they were American in "your mind" ?

I agree with you, "Americans should care about eachother & the welfare of our country", but I wouldn't put that burden on the Federal government...it's not exactly know for efficiency/ability you know !

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#417577 - 02/26/08 02:15 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/23/00
Posts: 386
Loc: Auburn
 Originally Posted By: blue water pro

Onemorecast
insurance comps are run by greedy jerks.


So are oil companies, doesn't mean I won't pay $4.00/ gallon this summer.
Man how much more tax would one bear under a socialized medical plan in the USA? Nothing right?
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#417582 - 02/26/08 02:26 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
There is no free lunch...

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#417591 - 02/26/08 03:20 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ]
Krijack Offline
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1531
Loc: Tacoma
I consider myself fairly far right, but I have to agree with Blue water on this one. I pay over $1800 bucks a month for what I consider sub-par insurance. That is over twice my house payment and about a quarter of my gross income. Pretty scarey that I pay what equals about $10 an hour for medical and the minimum wage is $8 bucks. Lets here a little bit more about how everyone should get there own.

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#417601 - 02/26/08 06:34 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: Krijack]
One Way Offline
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Registered: 06/01/06
Posts: 1321
Loc: San Rafael, Ca. & Whidbey Isla...
I think I am spoiled, my insurance is covered by my union. I don't want to hijack this tread and start a union bashing one. But, Insurance has been fine, I have had to battle at times, but all in all it works. I remember when I was younger never meeting my deductible and being told that is called being healthy. Makes sense now, insurance should save you from catastrophic medical expenses, the day in day out grind in my opinion not so much.I think everyone should have insurance available, but like all things it should be earned. The true bummer is looking forward to retirement the largest monthly expense will be medical insurance.... just when I will need it the most... Better start planning yall

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#417603 - 02/26/08 07:25 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: One Way]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
That's a lofty goal, get old so your favorite crooks can pump your carcass full of chemicals to keep you alive long enough to make a ton of money, not necessarily happy nor healthy, just alive.

Instead of working your life away saving up to be a crusty old patient, go out and live right now, die later without insurance and money in the bank. It worked for a long time !

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#417613 - 02/26/08 09:52 AM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: Oregonian]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
Save up so you can give it to the Docs in the final years. Huh? That make sense?

Interesting thought. I wonder what the annual cost is to keep people alive past 65? I mean everything. Food consumed, gasoline burned, medical expenses, sewage processing.....everything. And now that we have the technology to keep people living longer, what impact does their living longer have on the extra drainage of resources?

I say "Live Hard, Die Young....it's kinder to the environment"! Us old bastards are sucking the money right out of the younger generations wallets.

I have no idea what the answer is.
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#417675 - 02/26/08 12:11 PM Re: Newsweek: Hillary should bow out of elections [Re: ParaLeaks]
chasbo Offline
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Registered: 10/09/07
Posts: 795
Loc: oly
Has anybody heard what is considered "affordable" health ins. ?

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